Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2010 at 1:41am:


Ok I agree but Robert Bruce also talks a lot about "shadow memory download problems" because of the mind-split effect. So I'm not sure if it's entirely automatic.

I haven't read all the books you mentioned, but for me it helps to focus on the third eye yet look straight ahead (with eyes closed) looking beyond the tip of your nose.  Going numb is natural, I've heard, and for me, quite annoying, as I get very heavy/relaxed feeling yet my legs and extremities are tingling all over.

If you are interested in having an "interesting" experience while not attempting OOBE, I went to a Barbara Brennan school graduate who did some energy work on me (I've experienced Reiki as well) and I literally felt as though I was taking a rollercoaster ride! I felt hands on me that were not her's as well. It was a great confirmation for me that we are more than just bodies.

http://www.barbarabrennan.com/

Yeah, I don't drink alcohol very often but I should probably avoid it during this trial.

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 9

Program Notes/Observations

    * I found it really hard to find the time to do all the exercises today. I probably rushed through them a little faster than I should have. It almost seemed like the universe was conspiring to derail my practice today.
    * Energy work moved to the arms, I didn’t feel too much tingling there, just a localized heaviness.

Dream Notes:

    * Wow, I remembered around 5-6 dreams last night! I wrote a full page of notes in my journal but I’m not going to write it all out here.
    * In one of the dreams, there were about 4 people who had attracted attention in a crowd. Someone said something about making them levitate, so I thought “what the heck, I’ll try and make one of them levitate”. So I closed my dream eyes and focused hard. I heard some voices and then saw some weird (hypnagogic?) imagery with some very cool sounds. I think I might have felt a slight falling sensation, I’m not too sure. Next thing I know I try to open my eyes in the dream but it turns out I woke up.
    * I think one of my dream symbols is a video game/computer screen. They seem to show up in my dreams quite a bit. Perhaps I need to start doing reality checks whenever I look at a screen.

msagansk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 9:32am:


Hi M: Keep close tabs on this... the current ego is threatened and will begin to attempt to derail the work... time to bear down... and decide the exercises take precidence over anything and everything... the road is going to get bumpy... hang on..

S.

msagansk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 12:21pm:


Hi M: This may sound radical... but if you are serious... and you seem to have financial resources... rent a motel or hotel room for the 90 days... get up a hour or two earlier than you normally would... take no phones or means of communication go do your exercises...

There are two advantages to this... do you know the 'borderland'... the best time to do your exercises is in the morning... because you are very close to borderland... that is... still between worlds... and the astral body is loose... and accessible... as the day goes on it gets lost in the worlds noise... do that and you will progress very fast and stay off alcohol.

The other advantage is that you are telling the current ego in no uncertain terms you are the boss and you will brook no nonsense.


S.

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 10

Program Notes/Observations:

    * I’m not finding the energy work with the arms to be as intense as the legs, but it’s still quite tingly.
    * I’m getting better at quieting my mind while meditating and listening to bwgen. It’s becoming a quite pleasant experience

Dream Notes:

    * I remembered 2 dreams last night. I had my sleep time cut short, to about 6 hours. I find this significantly cuts down on the number of dreams I have during the night. This agrees with what I have read in various places about dreaming – you tend to have more REM periods during the 6-8th hour of sleeping versus the beginning.
    * Dream symbol – videogame type sequences. This seems to crop up once a week or so, where I find myself playing some sort of video game like dream out. Usually they tend to be of the “First Person Shooter” variety. This aligns with my previously mentioned dream symbol of a computer/video screen.

Hi Michael, here's something tricky I think:

Quote: "I find myself getting anxious with body relaxation and breath awareness exercises. I just want to “get through them” so I can get to the more interesting energy work."

The tricky thing is, you'll be "through" that (in a "accomplished" sense rather than a schedule sense) once you don't want anymore to go through it. It's like when you don't want to think of anything. Then you think "I don't want to think of anything, I don't want to ........." , or when you have problems with sleep and tell yourself "I wannna sleep! I wanna sleep!...." it will not work. That's what the breath awareness is for. Just awareness on the breath. Nothing else.

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 12:26am:


True enough.

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 12

Program Notes/Observations

    * I found it pretty hard to meditate today while listening to bwgen, as I am extra tired today. I worked an overtime shift for my job last night so my sleep schedule was thrown off.
    * When I was listening to bwgen, I had wondered if the 20 minutes were up and grabbed for my egg timer to check. As soon as I touched the egg timer, it went off. I thought it was a funny coincidence, and I suppose some people might take that as being potentially pre-cognitive.
    * While doing the fully body bounce energy work today my whole body felt like it was vibrating at a slow rhythm. It didn’t feel like the rhythm from a heart beat either.

Dream Notes:

    * 2 dreams remembered. Once was related to work but the second one was me exploring this cave full of glass/crystal artifacts. One of them was a very pretty looking crab.