Justin
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Hi Seraphis,
My last post was addressed to the general board more so, and specifically for any newbies that might be reading it and this thread.
Yes, i do get your point but i feel you may be missing a piece of the puzzle, which i think would be well explained and pointed out to you if you read Rosie's book or seek direct guidance about the issue.
I will try to explain again in somewhat different terms, partially inspired by what "Ah So" taught in her book.
Exploring via classic OBE is not just a skill, but it's a type of phasing, and i will put it in perspective for you.
Picture this, a great scale of vibratory "levels" or notes which go from the slowest vibratory notes or levels which is related to the physical and to the lower hell areas of consciousness.
This great scale of frequency goes all the way up to pure Source Consciousness which is the fastest vibratory part of the Total, One Field of Consciousness.
All these notes and frequencies are all connected to each other, hence there is both a "linear" and "non linear" aspect to it. Our consciousness exists unconsciously in all these various levels. It's a matter of becoming conscious to various ones.
Relating to this is a perspective framework of we have 7 major energy centers, and we have 5 main "bodies". These bodies are physical, etheric, emotional, mental, and spiritual.
We also have 7 main dimensions those 7 main dimensions are 7 major sub dimensions, so we have 49 major levels.
Ok, now it gets a little more interesting. Those 7 main dimensions are connected to our 7 main energy centers connected to our various bodies.
But, more specifically, you could say the physical and afterlife hells dimensions are connected primarily to the 1st dimension and to the 1st energy Center. Each level or slower vibratory note, is a reflection of the faster vibratory note or level "right next to it" so to speak, and all is reflected from the Source Consciousness level of pure Spirit.
In a sense, all "below" (slower vibratory) that original level is a bit illusionary in nature because it's all temporal and a reflection deflection. The slower vibratory the level, the more distorted it becomes. Our job is to raise the vibrational patterns of the 1st level (aka our physical bodies) up to match the vibrational pattern of that pure Spirit/Source pattern.
Anyways, the etheric body of the human energy system is primarily connected to 2nd dimension and to our 2nd Chakra and some of the slowest vibratory aspects of 3rd dimensions and the 3rd Center, the emotional to the 3rd and some to the 4th, etc., and so on so forth.
What we call the classic OBE, well another way of saying it is concentrating our attention and perception within via primarily our etheric "body" and the 2nd/3rd Center and dimensional levels of our total human energy system.
Or, in other words, it's still very connected to the physical level, which is why we perceive somewhat similarly and thus feels more "physically real" via that kind of "phasing".
But, as Ah So pointed out, it's because of that energy identification and density more akin to the physical, it tends to be more limiting in some ways as compared to phasing or focusing our attention in the faster vibratory levels of being. In his words, we tend to have more "baggage" on these kinds of exploration trips.
Our perceptual sense and abilities gets ever more clear (in the spiritual sense), holistic, intuitive, connected to Source, etc. the more we raise the vibrational pattern within and phase into more expanded/faster vibratory and subtle dimensions.
But, the only problem with that, is that for most people, it tends to be less clear in the physical sense, and the reason why is because of the greater vibrational/frequency difference between the two levels (physical and whatever). Our remembrance and perceptions of such levels tend to be more subtle and dream like until we are really practiced, really intune, and are both balancing and speeding up all our vibratory levels to that original Spirit/1st Cause/Source Consciousness.
When we do that, we become like "He/She" and there is no need or experience of physical death or any kind of unconsciousness at all, because we are aware of existing within all levels simultaneously, but our consciousness really exists in and from Spirit (this takes such an attunement to and livingness of PUL).
Again, i suspect the reason of why you are having a difficult time with initially phasing out (or "in" if you prefer) through the classic OBE which is so strongly connected to our etheric body and to our 2nd/3rd Chakra levels is because your vibratory patterns are innately faster vibratory and more expanded than that and it's natural for your consciousness to phase in via say the mental body and say the 5th Center.
Course, since it's all connected, it's a more interactive system than that--i'm kind of generalizing to make some points here.
It's not an uncommon experience for people to initially phase into their etheric body/2nd-3rd Center levels and start with a classic OBE perceptual framework and then as they "up their vibrationonal level of their consciousness" the experience and perceptions start to change and it starts feeling less like a classic OBE.
Both my wife and i have experience with this.
Re: Rosiland and her advice to you, i can't say why she advised that or comment too much on it. I will say though, as much as i respect and like her, i don't think she had conscious access to the degree of wisdom, holistic knowledge, etc. that came through her Guidance during those special sessions. Particularly "Ah So" seems to be a really intune and aware Helper.
So, personally, i would err on the side of Ah So's advice and knowledge.
He or her guidance recommended occasional fasting, but more in the sense of cleansing, balancing, and strengthening the physical body so that more energy was freed up on the nonphysical levels of Being, and thus it would make it easier for the physical level to consciously perceive and experience the less physical and completely nonphysical levels.
When our physical bodies are imbalanced, toxic, etc., our consciousness has to work more on sending in through energy to help keep our vehicle working and balanced enough to keep living.
Fasting is one way to help our consciousness correct the physical imbalances in order to free up energy and focus for other experiences and phasings. We also tend to become less attached to the physical during fasting, which also makes it easier to phase and perceive the various less physical and completely nonphysical levels of being.
The above is a mix of my own guidance about this issue along with a good dose of what Rosie's guidance said and hinted as related in her sessions.
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