Related to what Justin wrote, I haven't had an OBE with all the effects for a while. I don't know if I could.  Doing so might be similar to trying to fly a plane designed to use jet engines with old prop engines.

I wasn't always a plane that required jet engines, but I've worked on myself spiritually and needs have changed.

Perhaps it is more of a matter of focusing our attention to different energy levels than flying around like superman. Perhaps we experience ourself as superman for as long we need to do so.

On the other hand, flying around is fun, but perhaps doing so from a lucid dream is preferable. I'm not certain, but I believe it is possible that traveling astrally from a lucid dream might be better energetically than the regular way. The reason I say this is because as stated earlier, I no longer travel the old way, but do so from lucid dreams. When I do so from a lucid dream, it doesn't seem as if the old way is missed.

In fact, there were a couple of occasions where I went into the vibrational state before flying, as I was having a lucid dream. This hasn't happened in a while. I believe my higher self/spirit guidance had me experience in such a way, in order to make the point that experiencing such effects aren't necessary. Such effects can be useful when you go from being skeptic to non-skeptic.

Also, I occasionally fly about in what seems to be my mental body while wide awake. Again, no effects are required.

By the way, has anybody who flys around signed up for a frequent flyer program?

8/31/2010 - afternoon session:

Potpourri session: AKG disc 1: cut 1: JOOB disc set: condition C:AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise.

This is amazing I have enterer a whole new world of relaxation and the experience of relaxation

Relaxation phase:

relaxation state is immediate and takes a whole new turn. I am full like a balloon… almost now body sensation… hard to describe.

JOOB condition C:

Very deep and consciously aware. Some fundamental body attempt to separate… this is where I want to be… a smooth separation and in good physical condition without debilitation… The disk ends and I am ambivalent about ending the session. Decide to continue in I/P mode.

AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise:

Seems my subconscious is trying to process a tv movie I recently watched and found tedious and unwatchable… a british detective drama… red riding trilogy… it is stuck in my subconscious and my I/P is trying to dissolve it… if the subconscious is like the intestinal track… it is trying to pass this whole indigestible mass…

NB: I am very happy about these new unexpected developments… especially the desire to meditate for hours… that is where it is at… the ability to stay internal for very long periods… outstanding!!

S.

9/01/2010 - afternoon session:

Potpourri session: AKG disc 1: cut 1: JOOB disc set: condition C:AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise.

Relaxation phase:

Body rock hard… must be sleep paralysis… fairly quickly into f10...

JOOB condition C:

Mind awake but poc… will not separate it is just locked into the awake mind… have now idea where it is… except I am the center of it… became aware of a room… window wall… a bronze body was standing akimbo back against the wall… the only thing I can think is that this is a process and I have advanced a long way in the relaxation phase… which must have whole worlds of layers to go before the mind is released enough from the physical to trigger the vibrations… but at least something new and different is happening all the time… that is progress…

AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise:

Didn’t do this exercise.

S.

goobygirl wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 12:33am:


Hi Gooby: Thanks for the heads up.

S.

9/02/2010 - 2nd morning session:

Potpourri session: AKG disc 1: cut 1: JOOB disc set: condition C:AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise.

Unbelievable session!!!

Relaxation phase:

Almost immediately my brain went rock hard… almost unaware of rest of my body… it was light and amorphous f10...

JOOB condition C:

See a lone orange gabled house on a green grassed promontory… my cranial area (neo cortex??) starts buzzing… about half way through session my left lower leg went rigid… the toes stretched back tensed and rigid… whatever was going on in my brain is spreading to the rest of my body except that is starting on the left side of my body… the right side is still airy and light… electric jolt in the heart chakra… whole body in a light buzz… now a ringing in the temple area right side of head… but lightly ringing in left temple… light flash… I want the session to end… time is oppressive… but I feel I can’t abort but must stay till the end of the disk… it is a struggle not to abort… must stay in session… mercifully my whole body is feeling all the same sensations… the disk click out….

Have no idea what this is all about….

AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise:

Didn’t do this exercise.

S.

9/4/2010 - morning session:

Not sure what kind of session this was… it was not a step backward… it was not necessarily an advance… guess it was marching in place…

Potpourri session: AKG disc 1: cut 1: JOOB disc set: condition C:AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise.

Relaxation phase:

As I was going into the relaxation phase which is always beginning with the cerebral cortex going rigid, I became aware of myself being upside down with my feet pointed at the ceiling… this is clearly an obe state… but my point of consciousness was still in my brain… so I was in a mind split… f10.

JOOB condition C:

I seem to be in a large open space in a warehouse… I was in a female body and I had the identity of someone I know (AS)… intense pressure cranial area… fundamental body shift… ringing and pressure in the temple and ear mostly right side…

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Ear-anatomy.png

Vibrations attempt to come in…

AKG disk 1: cut 6: Interpreter/perceiver exercise:

Didn’t do this exercise.

S.

Well I got back from TMI (The Monroe Institute) a couple weeks ago. It's taken me a while to get some free time and to really understand any sort of permanent changes their Gateway Voyage program left on me. It was an amazing week of self-discovery, exploration, experience, and development.

In a nutshell I came wanting to learn more about consciousness and subjective experience (and maybe have an OBE too!). While I didn't have a pure OBE, I did come away with much more than I expected. I do have a deeper understanding of how I am more than my physical body (consciousness). I am more aware, happy, sensitive, and caring in general, and have a modified outlook on life.

The Gateway Voyage teaches you how to attain different altered states of consciousness (what they call Focus 10, 12, 15, and 21) with the help of Hemi-Sync. Attaining these states during the program was surprisingly easy. Some people might also know that Bob Monroe termed this shifting between altered states as phasing. Phasing is a whole lot easier to do and is more gradual than trying to just attain an OBE. I think it's because phasing allows you to be open to any sort of non-physical perception, instead of expecting for XYZ to occur in an OBE.

Conscious experience is very subjective and there is quite a variety of ways to experience the focus levels. That's why if you believe you want to have an OBE just like one you've read, you'll likely end up blocking any sort of non-physical perception that isn't what you're expecting. It's much better to just be open to what comes to you. That's one of the biggest things I learned at the Gateway Voyage, and it's why I've dropped the goal of "having an OBE" for something more general and expansive.

My non-physical perceptions were varied between visions, feelings, and the occasional sense of "knowing". I should be clear that these visions came to me in my mind's eye (so I didn't see it through my physical eyes), and I'd sometimes have trouble figuring out whether I was actually imagining what I was seeing or if I wasn't. I'm far from mastering this, but I've also come a long way.

The exercises at the Gateway Voyage also give you plenty of tools. This gives you things to try when you're lying there in the altered state, such as receiving guidance, performing healing, remote viewing, manifestation, interacting with entities, etc. One of the best successes for me was deepening my connection with my guidance (be it a guide, helper, or whatever you want to call it). When I have a question about something going on in my life, I can usually get a yes/no answer from this guidance (it depends on the question) - which is very useful! The manifestation exercise actually ended up working for me (a specific boost in my career), and I received some positive results (not 100% accurate) with the remote viewing.

I'm not 100% sure why I'm more happy, sensitive, caring, etc. I think part of it has to do with having experiences that have showed me what an open heart *feels* like. Hemi-Sync also tends to make you use both your left-brain and your right-brain - and my right-brain has definitely been underutilized. Perhaps coming in greater alignment with my whole being has helped in some way as well.

I used to dismiss most subjective experience (i.e. lived in the left-brained objective causality of Western culture) - but there is SO much to it.. and it is directly applicable to our everyday lives.

I should also mention that another huge source of knowledge for me about all of this has come from the book "My Big Toe". This book and its author really resonate with me - I've been able to make sense of all this new age "hokum" in a logical framework that makes sense to me. It's been completely compatible with my Gateway Voyage and enhanced my understanding of it.

I will definitely be going to TMI within the next year to take another program. I'm currently debating between Heartline, Guidelines, and MC squared. My current goals are to become more loving/caring, and to enhance my non-physical perceptions by continuing to meditate everyday.