OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 5

Program Notes/Observations:

    * While I was relaxing with bwgen I slipped into a couple mini-dreams that I quickly forgot after I remembered to focus on my breath. It was different from a normal dream though, because I was still aware of my body as I was having the dream. It’s hard to describe exactly how I was aware of my body yet not lucid in my dream.
    * The energy work/body awareness focused on both of my feet in their entirety. This was pretty intense, my feet almost felt like they were on fire by the end of it. The tingling and buzzing were very strong. Robert Bruce says this is normal when you’re just starting out though, because I’m clearing out energy blockages. It’s neat to be able to already verify what he says will happen with my own real experience, because this sort of intense tingling feeling isn’t something I’d expect to happen.

Dream Notes:

    * Dream Keywords: APEGM dinner, tammerism?, discussion in engineering, video game for sale
    * One of my dreams involved me sitting at a dinner table with my professional engineering peers, although I did not recognize anyone from the physical world. For whatever reason, words that don’t even exist kept being brought up throughout the dream. One of them was “tammerism”, and for whatever reason I thought I understood what that meant in the dream… but not now of course. There were other weird words but I do not remember them.

I finished Astral Dynamics and have started reading Bruce Moen’s first book. I also coincidentally received a shipment from Amazon with some fresh new books. They are:

    * Adventures Beyond the Body
    * The Secret of the Soul
    * The Power of Now
    * Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming

Needless to say I’ve got a full plate of reading for the next while.

Bruce Moen’s book is already pretty intense, and is way over my head. Not in the sense of me having trouble understanding it, but rather it would be something  more appropriate to me once I’ve had more OBE experience. I flipped through “Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming” and I think I will read it first,  because it seems like it does a better job of bridging the gap between science and the paranormal. In other words, it feels more “entry level” to me. I've ordered Bruce Moen's Guidebook today, so I will be working through that once it arrives.

I’m also building the habit of doing frequent reality checks during the day, so that I can do it during a dream and become lucid.

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 3:24pm:


No. The closest I've come was waking up with sleep paralysis, being lucid, and yet having things about my bedroom look different (light peering through window was red).

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 8:54pm:


Yes I believe RB says that sleep paralysis is an indication of an OBE in progress, where the physical and astral bodies are very close together.

I think what I should have done is try an OBE exit attempt at the time, but I didn't know that then.

msagansk wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 1:50pm:


Hi M: Lol!! Read it again... you can't exit again because you are already o.b.e... you just have not transfered your point-of-consciousness into the astral body... the reason you are very aware of the paralysis is because the body is asleep and your poc is still in the fundamental energy body... that is my understanding..

Check my facts to be sure I have it right haven't thought about this in a while.

S.

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 7

Program Notes/Observations

    * Energy work implemented “body bouncing” awareness in my legs. This feeling was pretty cool, you can definitely sense the energy movement through your legs.
    * Week 2 is coming up! I’m getting a little anxious to actually do some OBE exit techniques but taking it slow is probably best.

Dream Notes

    * This was a doozy. The relevant part to share was that I was in my bathroom during the dream looking at myself in the mirror. For whatever reason my dream mind suddenly asked to have an OBE. I looked away from the mirror, concentrated, and looked back at the mirror. In my astonishment I looked about 20 years older. Wrinkly but with a full head of grey hair, almost like Jay Leno haha. I became scared and said “ok ok, I get the point, please put me back” and everything was back to normal… in my dream that is.
    * The second part to the dream was me having a plugged toilet. I interpreted this as me trying to shed my old beliefs, but there’s so much of it that it’s getting clogged and will take time to get rid of. But I don’t really know if that’s what was meant, of course.

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 8:56pm:


Yeah I just ended up waiting and it went back to normal. The elevator dream sounds like it would be quite scary!

Ok I'm assuming you mean a conscious OBE. Just going from memory:

1. be in a trance state (body awake, mind asleep)
2. energy body creates expanded energy body
3. expanded energy body creates real-time/astral double
4. transfer of consciousness from physical body to double

Or were you getting at something else?

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2010 at 12:32am:


I didn't look any of it up. I did however read some of the technicalities in the OBE process in week 2 of MAP by RB earlier today so it was fresh in my mind.

To me there was more than 4 so I wasn't really sure which ones to pick. trance state = 100% relaxation to me, and I was going to say relaxation but I figured trance state was more accurate.

I was also thinking about having enough energy to remember the OBE, which is sort of what you said as 4.

So I was close! You are right yes, 100% :p