5/5/2010 - morning session:

Energy streaming tip of little finger left hand… (reflexology head area… ?? Assuming pineal activation)… fundamental body shift… winked out in the energy recon version sequence… pressure at the brow point… fundamental energy body trembled… (this event is gradually becoming more pronounced and less subtle)…

The rigidity state comes in sooner now… and it character has changed… I have a belief system barrier that says what I am trying to do can’t be done… I applied the conversation method… not sure to what effect… things are trying to happen but that belief structure is probably the inhibitor..

S.

p.s.: I forgot and didn't put it on tape... but in my power nap I remembered that my left astral foot separated from my physical foot... I think... because my left foot felt very light... I also had a falling sensation in my legs along with a jolt... it just all came back in the power nap because something similar happened in that nap...

S.

5/6/2010 - Well tonight I fly to Faber for Lifeline... the retrieval program... I am not sure I will post.. tho if I do... it will have to be in the retrieval section... I am looking forward to this trip because I am told I will be able to do my second session in the tank.

S.

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 64

Life did a good job at kicking my pants this week. I really had to push hard to find times to sit down and do the exercises, and it was usually not the optimal place or time. Today being the weekend I was able to get a great session in and still found that I had made progress throughout the week!

It’s pretty amazing at just how deep meditation can get, and I know I’m still only scratching the surface. I’m finding it easier to get into a trance state, and it also happens more quickly and at a deeper level. All it takes is steady practice.

I would say my main trouble right now is relaxing too much and going off into dream imagery too easily. Once I get too deep into it I find it hard to focus my mind on anything for particularly long, which includes any sort of OBE exit technique.

In some ways I’m sort of feeling a fork in the road between meditation and OBE’s. It’s almost as if I’m at a level where the two are becoming mutually exclusive. In other words, when I meditate too deeply I can’t focus on doing an exit technique… or if I focus on an exit technique my body/mind tenses and resists it to the point where I can not keep a focused mind either. Perhaps it’s just a lack of focus on either side. In MAP, Robert Bruce says OBE exit work is a very fine balancing act and I am really starting to see that.

I just thought of another way of looking at it. When I meditate it’s like I’m focusing into my consciousness, while an OBE exit technique requires focusing outside my physical body. Both techniques require focus, and either way leads to the same result – disassociation between mind and body. Which means understanding that I am more than my physical body, i.e. that my mind is not my brain. And that is the whole point of this 90 day trial.

Right now I just seem to be feeling much more success and progress with focusing inwards, rather than outward. I haven’t had any mind-blowing experiences such as floating over my own physical body, but my belief systems have been slowly chipped away with unusual experiences. My body seems to resist any sort of external focus, and absolutely loves focusing inward. Perhaps yogic meditation or Robert Monroe’s Phasing/Focus Level system is a better path for me than the classic OBE techniques?

One example from today happened while I was meditating. I lost focus for a period of time and started seeing dream imagery, but then quickly realized that this had happened and regained awareness. I came back to staring at the back of my eye-lids, but for a second or so I saw a very distinct dark form stand out from the backdrop. It was extremely unusual from what I normally see with closed eyes, and it kind of felt like a presence. That is a very exciting thought.

A question I have for people is should I be encouraging the dream imagery while meditating or should I be resisting it? I can see benefits to either strategy. I know that Bruce Moen talks about balancing between the perceiver and interpreter; he thinks that cutting out all non-physical perception is a mistake. Perhaps I should practice his strategy of slowing the image process down.

msagansk wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 3:44pm:


Hi S: Think about the four conditions that produce an O.B.E.

1. 100 % relaxation
2. Quiet the mind.

Remember the O.B.E. is an automatic reflex… once the control mechanism that triggers the reflex recognizes you are asleep in body and (mind)… the reflex triggers…

This is what is left out of the four steps..

3. Shift your p.o.c. into the rtx-double.
4. Have enough psychic energy to remain outside the body.

Clearly you are ascending into the dream mind territory and that is not quieting the mind… what does quieting the mind mean to you?

But think about this... if you have ascended into the dream mind territory, then, you are in the astral... i.e. you are viewing in the astral form... thus are you in a mind split?? Are you aware of your body while you are in the dream mind territory... what is the definition of a mind split?

S.

Seraphis1 wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 7:22pm:


You're right, I guess I should have been more specific. I quiet my mind at first (no thoughts or imagery, just my mantra), but then after a period of time I find myself having visions. They aren't really thoughts either though, so in a sense my mind is still "quiet"... I'm just observing. The thing is, I'm not aware enough to participate in it. It just sort of happens and when I become self-aware again the visions stop.

This stuff is a lot more complicated than I first thought, heh.

Seraphis1 wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 7:22pm:


Yes I believe it is a pretty classic mind split. I'm still aware of my body but it's definitely "in the background". Part of my focus is in the astral and part of it is still in the physical. I'm not sure if it's a self-created dream astral or if I'm actually observing non-physical beings.

It certainly seems like I'm seeing very random events that don't really make any sense to me. Sometimes I think I may be a part of the action though as well... like my point of consciousness is in someone else... cause it usually doesn't feel like "me".

Like I said, this is getting pretty complicated.

msagansk wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 9:38pm:


Hi S: Well, Gateway is a prerequisite for all TMI seminars... so you have to do that first... but, guidance is what you need to follow... I'm sure our paths are quite different. My primary goal is Transcendance so I am being led to achieve that goal... you seem to not have a long term goal... at this point your goal seems to be o.b.e. experiences... without a longterm goal... like do you want to achieve escape velocity and move out of this paradigm or do you plan on not reincarnating... do you want to be like the facilitator... until you make these decisions and intend to accomplish them the path will of necessity be a bit random..

S.

Seraphis1 wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 11:41pm:


Right now I'm just trying to be open to various experiences to help shift my belief systems. My goal is wanting to know what's out there and whether all of this stuff is "real", much like how Bruce Moen spent a long time gathering evidence to try and convince himself.

As a longer term goal I want to increase my capabilities in the non-physical while I'm still in the physical. Being present in both the physical and non-physical matter realities like Thomas Campbell and Bruce Moen can do would be very good. I'm also toying around with the idea of becoming a professional psychic/medium.

Basically, I want to see what abilities I can develop and how I can use them to help others.

I've had a couple readings where I've been told that I'm an "old soul", so I've also been around the block a few times and have some wisdom to share. I have a feeling that this may be my last or one of the last incarnations here. But I don't want to jump to conclusions yet.