Don wrote:
"Spiricom can only function with the aid of a medium named William O'Neil."

Yes, this is a good point. It refers to the question of filtering, the connection of device and contactor (the "dialing" question). And maybe the connection must be very close, so to say, and you would need a quite talented person to do this.
We could ask, why then such a device, when you still need a medium? In Bruces terminologie, it would be, in my opinion, a tool to bypass the distortions of the physical contactor's interpreter and belief system, and maybe to decrease noise (unrelated associations, wandering thoughts) once the contact is established. Additionally, if the audio quality is sufficient, recognizing of a voice alone would be very convincing, and not only one, but others, too, would be able to hear it.
I wonder if some technical EVP sets would work better with a person skilled in mediumship/phasing/focused awareness.

Another thought about what Dave said and EVP. Some EVPlers report that they, when they listen to their recording the first time, can only notice at some points that "there is something". The more often they hear it, the clearer it becomes. If this is not only from a psychologic reason, but the recording actually changes, then this would mean there is a sort of "overdub" factor, or iteration, and furthermore, the question arises how this changing in the recording takes place, if it is directly influenced by a spirit, or by the listener.
Don is right, the EVP results seem not to be very convincing yet, at least not the published ones.

I remember a post here on the board, I forgot who posted it, telling of experimenting with EVP and after this, having some spook phenomena, just like it is frequently reported after ouija board sessions. Despite my nickname, I wouldn't like this at all!

Spooky

Spooky- I figured on using a computer to set up a lot of loops, essentially shift registers,  that would cycle through periods of a couple seconds on down to .0001 second or so, with at least ten sampling point at 10 Khz on all of them. It just needs a lot of memory and a fast machine to count through them, but a 2 GHz machine shold be able to do it OK.

Gain is a matter of multiplying the throughput by .9999 or so, and then adding the new data at unity, so the system regenerates slightly and resonates. The multiple registers will pick up any repetitive sounds like an echo chamber. This could also be made "super-regenerative", but that gets a bit complicated.

My guess is that we'd be seeing a very high impedance - on the order or gigohms - so something like a broad screen plus self-biased FET input might be adequate. With a computer, it would need only a single matching stage. Of course we could do it in analog, and with regeneration we might  get (in principle) an infinite input impedance, but the circuitry would be a monster.

I recall OBE flights down the street where I used to get tangled up in the power lines. That and people's phones, doorbells and lights blinking suggest that an electrical pickup might be appropriate.

What I'd personally like to see is a decnt theory with which to work, plus someone who is good with this kind of thing to work on it. If I can get moved in (I just changed residences after 16 years) in the next 6 months or so I might be able to do some of this. I got some long plastic pipes to use as accoustical resonators, but am still sitting with insufficient direction.

d

Hi Rondele-
I figure that if Bruce wants to work with me he'll say so , but he's got a lot of other activities that he is involved in. I see no reason to be pushy. - And, in all honesty, I have no solutions, only speculative thoughts on design.

In my estimation, what's needed is mostly a theoretical posture from which to proceed. A gizmo that can only be worked by a competent medium seems to me to be pretty pointless. If the medium is competent, then a crystal ball would be equally useful, or perhaps simply going into trance the way most mediums do. The machine has to be built to suit the unenlightened and opposing attitudes of the rest of the world. To seek involvement with others to build a machine that can't as yet be described doesn't seem very useful.  I'm available to anyone who wants to play with it, but I too have work that keeps me moderately busy, and wouldn't want to idle away the hours discussing the whichness of whatever.

dave

Yes Dave, using nowaday's fast "cycling" computers for this sort of "overdubbing" is a fascinating approach.

And yes, I guessed very high impedance is what we need. But it is very difficult to get noise /and unwanted resonances under control then. Even with differential ("balanced") circuits we will have problems at this very high impedance, and very high frequences. That's the field of radio receiver specialists (as I am more the low frequency guy, you know what a musician needs to get loud...).

Spooky

Spooky & Don - Let's assume for a moment that what we are, at least from the standpoint of a wave mechanic, is a bundle of coherent waves that remain in phase throughout a limited interval of time called a "lifetime". Then what is going to happen when we "die" is that we simply go out of phase with respect to the immediate continuum. Of course, if we could take a different perspective in phase space we could re-establish coherence, which is presumably what happens in the spirit phase of life. - The idea is sort of like two guitar strings slightly out of tune that resonate a "beat" tone due to interference.

Given that kind of phenomenon, what we're likely to get is noise - and the noise that is most coherent at any instant might actually get through the machie in a useful manner. But there's no way to filter out the bad guys and only let the good ones through. It's like a political caucus held in a large auditorium - what we want to have is the audio part (to hear) but then there's the taurus part (the bull).   -  In fact, on today's telly we have a lot of examples ...

Whatever this thing can do, if it does anyting, needs to be taken with a healthy dose of salt.

Personally, I'd settle for something that would facilitate helping a spirit to stay put long enough to work out some kind of message coding - even as simple as  blinking lights or hissing or clicking etc. I am willing to bet that the best that we can do will be more or less a psychic prosthesis to expand our abilities in that regard, as opposed to  "talking to dead people on the phone". - One example, John Edwards, whose abilities are pretty good, receives imagery, not words. 

It could be that the resonances naturally arising in a sea shell would be equally good as anything we could build.

d

This idea still seems to me to be a sort of psychic prosthesis for those of us who are metaphysically challenged. Since I'm about as psychic as a mud fence, this has a certain appeal. It also fits into the idea that prior efforts have marginally succeeded, but only when used by people with psychic skills.

I've been looking at situations in which I felt as if I had some kind of contact with other personalities. They invariably involve echoes, reverberations, cyclic patterns of some sort and the like. For example, sitting by a gurgling stream and relaxing, the sound of the water tends to turn into a medly of voices, all out of synchrony, but all talking just the same. The water, for its part, is making an endless succession of eddies, whirlpools, ripples and so on, all of which repeat, as well as the superficial changes due to wind and other circumstances.

The specific justification for my belief that resonances are involved is from the theory of knowledge, that information is created in the mind by repetitive cycles that bring together prior thoughts with later thoughts, making up new thoughts. We then filter these to get what we want. This has been pretty well proven. (I can give references if needed.)

My feeling is that the essence of the creative personality lies in this dynamic, that we are the movers of the cycles, and that anything that can duplicate this knd of process should be able to support a "mind".  An example of "minds" being transplanted in a roughly analogous manner is the way that entities attach to the living. They find attachment in shared concepts, especially strong emotional states like love, hate, lust etc. When they relax this identification they go off into the light, from which they can return if there are receptive minds to allow them in.

Since the dynamic to which the entity attaches is the cycling of ideas through the mind of the host, I suggest that all we need to do is to cycle entities through some sort of "artificial mind". A suitable way to build one of these would involve resonators, which is where I left off previously in discussing it with Snoopy.

Instead of being a "telephone" with call forwarding, this would become an artificial embodiment in which spooks might  hang out, much as we hang out on the forum, and through which they might focus themselves.  I would then expect that the output from the resonators might form sounds, leaving it up to us to interpret them. Considering that it takes a person a while to learn to talk, this might not be an output in words, but I'd be thrilled if I could get a ghost to grunt or sigh at me in response to questions.

I wonder if this would lead to crank calls?
d

Lucy-

Another reason Bruce might be reluctant to discuss his device is the potential danger presented by radical Islam and other similar groups.

Suppose he perfects his device and the world knows that so many of the beliefs now propagated....and died on behalf of...are false.

Bruce would be a target big time. 

Only Ed would be safe in such an environment.

AN ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT RECORDED ON BRUCE'S COMPLETED ADC DEVICE:

"This is a recording from your electronIc spirit control.  For your convenience, a dial-up system has been established to make it easier to contact your party.  If you wish to contact a party in Hell, just dial "666."  Your party may be unavailable due to their self-imposed torments.  In that case, just leave your message at the sound of the shrieks and he/she will get back to you as soon as possible.  Be advised, that this is an open line.  So spirit impersonators may contact you instead and may not use this marvelous device.  They may get back to you through psychokinetic experiences, nightmares, apparitions, and even possession.  But don't have a cow over this.  At least, you will eventually receive some sort of response and this will prove that the Moenite device actually works."

"Be warned that you may reach a fragment of an oversoul that has already reincarnated.  So you may reach your deceased father and he may respond, "Who the hell are you?"  But don't sweat such a response.  Eventually, your Dad will die, return, and reintegrate with his total Self.  Then he will be in a position to answer his voice mail.  Actually, those heavenbound types tell us that all such communications are either demonic impersonators or feeds from the unconscious memories of discarnates whose merger with your soul is mistaken for genuine contact with your loved one.  But don't worry.  We are still working to eliminate the kinks in our system.  So keep trying and wait for our upgrades."

"If you wish to reach someone in a Hollow Heaven, then just dial "0."  If your party is not available, then just leave a message after the sound of the televangelist's voice.  If you wish to reach someone in a real Heaven, then just dial 7.  If your party is out performing a retrieval or some other act of intervention in troubled earthly lives, then just leave a message at the sound of the harps and trumpets.  If you hear excessive static, then you may be experiencing vibrational interference.  Remember, your frequency must vibrate in a similar pattern to that of the party you wish to contact."  

Don