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Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:57am
 
Hello everyone!

This is my first post to these forums and as such, I feel the need to get a few things out of the way:

1) I live in Europe and English is not my native language, so I apologize in advance if my posts are hard to understand.

2) I've tried to search for an answer to a question I have about afterlife in these forums but I've not managed to find one, so if it has been answered, sorry for wasting your time.

3) What information about myself I'm about to divulge might not be very detailed, but I'm afraid I'm not very comfortable talking about my life in detail and frankly I believe it's not very relevant to my question either.


With those points out of the way, here's a bit about myself:

I'm man in my late 20s and I've lived a quite normal and happy life until about maybe nine years ago. I had suffered from slight to moderate depression but that issue has since been solved. Unfortunately, I've been diagnosed with a disesase that affects my throat and it's starting to seem the medication is not solving this issue.

My doctor told me that there is a surgical intervention available for my condition but it will only be considered as the very VERY last option. Apparently it is a dangerous operation and there's a chance it might not even solve my problem. So honestly, it's not looking good for me...†Sad

I'm not sure if I'm really that scared about death per se, but I'm afraid if I'm not able to accomplish anything of value and lose all the things I love. This medical condition came at the worst time as I was finally able to do something with my life.

The thing is that I love being myself (with the exception of this physical condition that I suffer from obviously!), I love my family, friends, relatives. I love my hometown, my country and its people. I love lots of other cultures and nations as well, I love history, stories, entertainment, food and everything else this world has to offer. I love even the walks in the park, wind in my face, the sound of it in my ears as I step outside. There's just so much to love about this life of mine and the entire world!

So my question is, would it be possible to have some kind of virtual reality machine in Focus 27, where I could live this life again, forever if I felt like it, but with changes I want? For example, I'd rather not have the critical medical condition I mentioned and let's say if there was a some kind of an apocalyptical event coming up shortly, I'd rather not experience that either.

A virtual reality machine might sound a silly idea but my reasons for it are as follows:

1) In the virtual reality I'd forget that I ever died and would live thinking everything is as if I was still alive and I never died, so I'd get to see my 60s as if it was for real.

2) It would be enough for me if it felt like everything was as real as here and there was no way I'd find out it wasn't. As everything except the changes I wished would be the same as here, there would unfortunately be (unreal) human suffering (but of course not for me Roll Eyes). However, I don't want any real/actual human being/soul to suffer in "my world", so it's best it would just be a virtual reality and not some actual reality, where living souls would suffer for real. (However if the price for this virtual reality was that no human suffering is allowed for even the virtual reality people, that would be a quite small price to pay.)

3) It doesn't have to be a virtual reality machine per se. I just use the term because I think it's easy to understand and explain.

I don't want to sound bitter, but I'm not comfortable with the idea of reincarnation, especially if this is how my life is going to be. Just when I was about to contribute something to this world and not only do I get shut down, but also have to suffer from sleep impairing pain? No thank you for ever again to a such waste of time! In my virtual reality at least I could be happy about wasting it. Roll Eyes

Thank you for your time and reading my question. I understand if this all sounds silly, but I'm afraid this idea is one of the only things that comforts me during these times. The pain in my throat/mouth is about borderline manageable now with moments of excruciating pain every now and then, but I fear the worst if this condition decides to ramp itself up to eleven... Cry
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Reply #1 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:53pm
 
Hi and welcome!

I can't help you with your main question but if you don't mind, I'd like to know the medical name of your condition. If you would rather not post it, you can PM me.

In meantime it's essential to overcome your conception of what death is. You're assuming it's a deprivation of all the things you love about your current life. It's not about what you lose but what you gain. You'll be closer to the things and people you know and love than you can possibly imagine.

You're also assuming death is in your near future. It may or may not be. Nothing is set in stone.

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Reply #2 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:04pm
 
Hi rondele and thank you for your reply!

The medical name of my condition is called Laryngopharyngeal reflux, apparantely also known as silent reflux disease. There's a sphincter above stomach that's supposed to keep acid in the stomach, but with us suffering from this disease the sphincter malfunctions and allows the stomach acid to rise to the food pipe or as in my case, all the way to the throat and mouth. Not very comfortable, as you can probably imagine and apparently there's a chance it might cause cancer if not gotten under control. Sad

My doctor ordered me to take medicine that prevents stomach acid formation but as of yet its effectiveness has not been significant. He however told me it could take a lot of time for me to feel its effect.

In the surgery I mentioned they would apparently tie part of the stomach around the sphincter to help it stay closed. My doctor said it could lead to other serious complications and in time it might loosen enough to allow the acid to keep spilling up.

And you are right, nothing is set in stone. It could be that this disease just has affected my psyche as its pretty hard to sleep at times when your mouth feels like its been poked with needles and every time you swallow it feels like a stone is going down your throat.

Also I'm horrible with all this medical stuff. I tried to do a little research to my condition but it seems everybody has a completely different opinion about how to treat it, so I have just followed my doctor's orders. I did try a recommended diet for my condition but it felt like it worsened the pain. Undecided
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Reply #3 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:51pm
 
Interesting. I also have acid reflux along with a related condition called Barretts Esophagus. In fact I'm scheduled for an endoscopy soon to check on things. I have an excellent gastroenterologist (named top doctor in my area), so I'll ask him about your condition (which is why I asked for the name).

When it was first diagnosed a few years ago I was told to take either Nexium or Prilosec on alternate days. I have to admit I'm not good at following orders so I only did it a short time.

As you probably know, anxiety can contribute to reflux. Along with the usual things like avoiding spicy foods and keeping your head elevated, it's best to try to keep negative thoughts away. Easy to say I know 🤔.

I'm no doctor but I always try the most conservative approach if possible, not to mention getting a second or third opinion before venturing into the unknown!

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Reply #4 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 3:52pm
 
I'm sorry to hear about your condition. It isn't easy having your own stomach liquids eating you no matter where it affects you. Undecided

In my case, I was told to take a medicine called Somac daily and the doctor told me to stay clear of chocolate, peppermint, tomatoes and spicy foods among other things. Cutting out everything else but tomatoes is easy. Not that I'm a big fan of tomatoes anyway, it's just that it seems to be in just about everything, especially in sauces.
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Reply #5 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:00pm
 
Hi Lifetimer, welcome!  By the way your English is wonderful. 

I think about the same concept quite often as what youíre asking.  I wonder what my afterlife will be like, and what can or would I create, and for how long would I enjoy that before wanting to do something else?  Along the lines of what youíre wanting as far as reliving your life, I wonder if Iíd be able to remember experiences from my life to the point of such great detail that Iím basically able to re-experience it.  Because for me, one of the saddest things about this physical existence is that itís so easy to forget so much.  Of course you can remember things in a generalized way, but not in specific detail to the point of being able to re-experience it.  Take a great vacation for instance.  You remember that you went on the vacation, what you did, and that you had a great time, but you canít actually relive it just by remembering.

I believe that when I die Iíll have an afterlife which I enjoy and can do and experience anything I want to.  I wonder if the things that concern me now will still be concerns after Iím dead.  Like, all those wonderful life experiences and memoriesÖwill I just be able to instantly remember them all any time I want to?  Will I be able to visit with anyone I want to just by thinking of them?  Can I go see, explore, and do things that Iíve always wanted to but didnít get the chance to?  What else will I think about doing that hasnít even crossed my mind in this life? 

I think itís normal for any one of us to have physical obstacles that make it hard to meditate and focus and do the kind of nonphysical exploration we want to do.  It does take practice and persistence.  For you, pain is one issue.  But like Rondele said, anxiety is a contributor, so you may first need to practice and get good at meditating and relaxing your physical body (despite your physical issues) until you get good at disconnecting from the physical.  It sounds impossible, but a perfect example is when I have such a terrible migraine to the point where all I can do is lie in bed, it takes effort to make myself relax just to fall asleep, but with practice and determination it can be done.  Iíve suffered from migraines ever since childhood. I also had excruciating stomach pain as a child.  I had to teach myself meditation and visualization as a way of dealing with the pain. 

Thanks for sharing about your medical condition because I was curious about it too.  Not to get too off topic, but Iím sure youíve been made aware that diet and lifestyle changes can improve your condition, so be sure to take them seriously.  My son was born with an esophageal defect which he had surgery for, but associated with the defect is an overabundance of white blood cells in the lining of the esophagus which causes too much inflammation.  He is supposed to avoid certain specific foods as well as certain medications, and if he has too much of them the inflammation worsens and he has a lot of reflux too.  So Iím hoping for your sake that you too can help your condition a great deal by avoiding certain foods.  I would also suggest getting a second opinion to see if another doctor might have more experience with treating your condition.

My sonís secondary condition is called eosinophilic esophagitis.  You might want to ask your doc about this.  Itís not always easy to diagnose and it mimics symptoms of GERD.  Have you had an endoscopy to view the lining of your esophagus?

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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:53am
 
Hi Vicky and thank you for your kind comments! Smiley

I agree with a lot of what you said. Maybe I'm easily entertained or something but if I was allowed to correct a few things about my life, I'd be happy to relive it again and again for the rest of eternity. If you locked me up in my virtual reality I wouldn't even notice! Grin

Your thoughts about memories also struck a chord with me. When I was in elementary school one of the biggest fears was that I would develop some sort of dementia and completely forget everything about myself, the people I care about and my entire life. Memories are very precious thing to me and I get easily very nostalgic.

Memories are also very peculiar at times. You might suddenly remember something completely random, something you'd think you already had lost in time yet it could surface for absolutely no reason and you can even remember how the actual situation of the memory made you feel. The power of memories is incredible at times!

Also, my condolences for your son's medical condition. Undecided
These stomach related issues seem to be very common these days for some reason.

And thank you for the heads-up about eosinophilic esophagitis. My problems are definitely more in the throat/mouth area but it might not be a bad idea to have a deeper check in the esophagus/stomach area. The doctor I went to was a ear, nose and throat specialist. He looked in my throat with those little handheld mirrors and told me that my voice box had clear reflux inflammation.

The problem however is that our health care system is overwhelmed with this COVID-19 business and travel between provinces is prohibited, so I'm not sure if I can get to a stomach specialist in my little town.

Well, it doesn't look good, but I still have some options left in my treatment arsenal. It's not over just yet! Smiley
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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2021 at 12:13pm
 
Lifetimer,

Iíve always had that same fear about dementia or somehow losing my memory!  (It doesnít help that my mom had dementia.  I worry about it being hereditary, but I know there are a lot of things you can do to prevent it too, which I do, like diet, health, exercise, reading, learning, games, puzzles, etc.)

I just turned 50 back in September.  I know Iím not ďthat oldĒ yet, but I decided to start journaling random memories.  Itís been a lot of fun and kind of therapeutic.  I plan on leaving this for my two kids to have to remember me by, and to also remember their own lives.  Theyíre 23 and 25 and donít remember a lot of their childhood, naturally.  So Iím journaling just any random memories I can think of.  Like you said, memories just randomly pop into your head from time to time, so thatís what I put in the journal.  Of course I also specifically include all the really good stuff, funny stuff, and things I think are important for them to remember and know. 

You might want to Google eosinophilic esophagitis diet and see whatís on it.  And hereís a link to a short article explaining that people who donít respond to proton-pump inhibitors can benefit greatly from discovering their food culprits.  https://www.aaaai.org/global/latest-research-summaries/Current-JACI-Research/die...

It might not be what your problem is, but who knows, it might be something that helps you.  Sorry to hear of your difficulty with the healthcare system right now.   Undecided   This pandemic has been so hard on some people, not for the virus but for the changes we've gone through.  I hope things get more back to normal soon. 

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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 11:00am
 
Hi Vicky!

I can relate with you about a family member having memory problems. My grandfather from mother's side suffers from Alzheimer's disease. Before the condition he was always doing chores and going around the town with his car, but in a span of a year or two this once active and energetic person is nothing but a confused and lumbering ruin of a man. It pains me to even look at him when I visit him at the nursing home. Cry

I think it's a wise and correct decision to protect your mind with the things you mentioned. I'm not too concerned with it at the moment myself, because I feel like I have strong enough memory, but with time that's probably going to change.

Thank you for the diet recommendation! I might give it a shot at it if my other options fail. And you're definitely not alone with your wish that things would normalize. Two years ago the good old days were in the 90s for me. Now it's two years ago. Grin
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Reply #9 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 12:35pm
 
Hello Lifetimer:

When it is time to join the spirit world, try to keep an open mind. Perhaps it contains love and wonders that far surpass what is available in this world. Perhaps you'll be able to interact with the people you now love, once they join the spirit world, according to what you need.

P.S. You and Roger are scarring me with that acid reflex business, I have some difficulties, and I hope my case doesn't become as bad a your case. The list of foods one shouldn't eat is quite large. I'll be 63 in May, both of my parents had problems with acid reflex, perhaps this happens to a lot of older people. I didn't have problems when I was younger. I have found that drinking warm/hot water helps.

Regarding dementia, my Mom had dementia, and I was her caretaker for the last few years of her life. I do not regret doing so. Since I am able to communicate with spirits, I have had some contact with her since she passed away, and she is doing well. What she is experiencing is beyond what she would've imagined while here in this world. I'd say, a lot more wonderful than she expected. Can a frog in a pond imagine how big the rest of the world is?

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Reply #10 - Feb 23rd, 2021 at 12:13pm
 
Hi Albert-

You said, regarding your mom- "What she is experiencing is beyond what she would've imagined while here in this world. I'd say, a lot more wonderful than she expected."

I'm reminded how there are plenty of books and accounts about NDEs, but very little about what life is like after death. Yes, there's the usual stuff about beautiful music, colors unlike any we see on earth, feelings of PUL, etc but when it comes to ongoing activities not so much.

So I'm wondering if you could provide more details about what your mom is experiencing and how she spends her "time" considering there's no need for shopping, dr/dentist appointments, house related chores, etc etc.

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Reply #11 - Feb 23rd, 2021 at 9:38pm
 
Roger:

I haven't received a lot of details, here's what I received.

First of all, at the end of her life, my Mom was in a coma, and spent her last week at my house. Shortly after she passed away (I heard her last breaths), I went to sit down in my living room, and to my left I saw her image, she seemed lighted, and and had a very pleasant smile.

Not too long afterwards one night I had a dream, I was with her and a man, and we were at what seemed like a hospital/reception center. The man and I sat her down, and I told her how much I love her and that I really enjoyed being her son. She smiled in a way that showed that she was happy to hear me say this.

It might seem contradictory that I had a dream where she was brought to like a reception center after I saw her image in a pleasant way right after her death. The explanation might be, while she was in a coma, I told her that I really loved her and that I really enjoyed being her son. Some say that some people with illnesses start preparing for death before they die. So perhaps some of her afterlife preparation took place while she was in a coma.

Sometime later I had a dream that seemed to make the point that she was in a good place that is beyond beautiful meadows and such, but I couldn't remember the details.

So while I was meditating one night, and was tuned into a higher level of being, I asked if my Mom is with her Group Soul.

I hear words from spirits in different ways. There have been some occasions when I have been in a nonphysical state, and it seemed as if I received communication at the back of my head, and it seemed as if a radio or cell phone was located there. On this occasion, I heard my Mom's voice respond to my Group Soul question in a radio-like way, and she said: "I'm with ___. We have a mission, when you are here you do a service. My group is close to your level."

Next I heard a male voice say, "When you are here you have a mission. Ultimately you are with _____."

Regarding the two blanks, I don't remember what words were said, I got more of a feeling. For the first blank I think "a group of Souls." For the second blank, "God/the Light."


rondele wrote on Feb 23rd, 2021 at 12:13pm:
Hi Albert-

You said, regarding your mom- "What she is experiencing is beyond what she would've imagined while here in this world. I'd say, a lot more wonderful than she expected."

I'm reminded how there are plenty of books and accounts about NDEs, but very little about what life is like after death. Yes, there's the usual stuff about beautiful music, colors unlike any we see on earth, feelings of PUL, etc but when it comes to ongoing activities not so much.

So I'm wondering if you could provide more details about what your mom is experiencing and how she spends her "time" considering there's no need for shopping, dr/dentist appointments, house related chores, etc etc. So perhaps my dream related to what I said to my Mom.


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Reply #12 - Feb 24th, 2021 at 1:02pm
 
Thanks Albert-

It's good that you can maintain contact with your mom. Are you able to pose specific questions to her, ie is there a Hall or Temple of Knowledge where books on every conceivable subject are available?

I don't recall if ES got into this level of detail about the afterlife. I do remember he described his exploration of hell and discussed angels and demons but that's about I can recall..

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Reply #13 - Feb 24th, 2021 at 3:02pm
 
Roger:

I communicated with her only to an extent that let me know how she is doing. Other wise, I don't want to channel her.

ES said that there aren't any demons, just former human spirits that are manifesting in an evil way. I question whether he is correct about this. I have had experiences with unfriendly spirits that didn't seem like former humans.

ES also said that angels are spirits that used to be human. Related to what I was told by my Mom and the male voice spirit I heard, ES said that Souls cluster in groups according to need.
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Reply #14 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 10:38am
 
What a lovely message about a peaceful transition from a mother. I agree that it is okay not to ask for more. It is the emotional tone of the messages that we get that matters the most. It reinforces the hope that we have in the face of our difficulties and is a reward for being human.
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