I was twice threatened to be banned by Bruce.

It sucked.

Apparently he was offended by half-naked women on a beach in my sig.

Augo,

I assume that if any Tom, or Harry were called a liar, that Bruce or Allan would, if made aware of it, ban the person using that term and use the same standard.  In the past, the board has seen a lot worse back and forth language, and some felt intimidated and were fed up with it.  Personally, minor expressions never bothered me one whit - as I'm a big boy, and stick to my ideas and ideals (sticks and stones you know...)   Many enlightened souls know that you can't sanitize life, but courtesy and decorum are important.  Bruce then instituted the new system.  What I didn't know, and what I still find difficult is a mandatory banning without a short dialogue with Juditha.  I think this accomplishes nothing.  No, on rethinking that, I think that inadvertently, much more bad energy was created.  I do not believe that it was due, specifically to the status of any individual from outside the forum.


    As to the flood of complaints about poor Juditha, having just been banned in a bewildering manner (according to Juditha) at another site, I assume that the complaints came from a group of concerned people - Bruce did say it was the largest number of complaints he has yet received.  An amazing thing there,  when I recall the barbs that used to fly out of Don's posts (how did he come in second and get a warning but Juditha was banned?).  When concerned citizens mobilize, they certainly do mobilize.  Would it be so disdainful for one of the administrators now to speak with Juditha, see that she agrees that she understands the error, apologizes and let her return?  Are the voices on this thread and the reasonable requests made of any less concern than those from another group of people who complained?

    We are in debt to Bruce and Allan for providing this forum.  In absolute terms, they may run it as they wish.  While we all understand that, many of us, myself included, feel that after years and many posts and good conversations, there is a community that is created (all of us are part of this).  As such, we then extrapolate and hope that our concerns will be heard, and a solution come about that will restore harmony and balance.  I believe in Bruce, and I hope we do at least get a chance.

Matthew

Thanks for your reply Alysia .. and DocM your wise words.

So Alysia, who decides who will be the tester? A big responsibility and if anyone feels that they have the qualifications to be the tester let them speak up and prove their worth. My ears are open as I am sure a lot of other ears.

Juditha does not need the negative energy of 'oh you are being tested' hey great - dont worry if her heart is broken after all it is a test huh? Juditha did not bring it upon herself she was standing up for herself with very little support from members here.

I believe that it was her integrity that was compromised first in being told that she was a fraud.
The peer moderators have made this an schoolground argument through their own doing.

Alysia you said; "sometimes a person out of millions gets picked by spirit to get dumped on. take Jesus for instance. or take Juditha, or Linn"

Iam not quite sure of what exact point you are trying to make here? This is not in the Spirit of Love -no-one gets 'dumped' on or maybe it's your dialect that I am not understanding.  In defence of Jesus, now, he was not dumped on and find that statement rather offensive.

Also, do you know Juditha well enough to say she is in 'training' what criteria do you base this assessment on?  i have also made an assessment on Juditha i base my assessment upon direct spirit contact. I do not think Juditha needs any condescending comments made about her Self.

quote again: "its like we all get thrust back to kindergarten and it brings the group consciousness down to be concentrating on someone's emotional problem of which we do not have enough facts to cast a judgment either way and we shouldn't take sides regardless precisely because we don't have all the facts and its none of our business what went between these two people".

You really believe this Alysia? mmm

But it is your right to say what you think or feel and i respect that 100% - as it is my right and Juditha's and Linn's to say what we feel or think.  

If there is a test going on here; i would say it is the way the situation has been dealt with.  

And we can only learn through human mistakes and this human mistake in my opinion is the lack of understanding, support and maurity in dealing with people.

The Spirit of acceptance and understanding must be put into action here. People that do psychic readings are highly creative and live in a different world - it is hard for them to adjust to 'normal' behaviour - we have to understand this and as 'lay' people i feel it is up to us to support them the best way we can to keep the peace and calm so that they can do what they do best. Any other method in dealing with this is counter-productive and if the pyschic is untruthfully it will be picked up pretty quick - nothing can be hidden for long.

The essence of this whole misfortunate event is the lack of love.  Let us move on, I would like to see Juditha back here as a member today.  I would like Linn to say hello to us all.  And I would like all of us here to feel we are loved unconditionally. By the grace of God (and Bruce lol)

I & I me & me you & you.

Yes, thank you Bruce.

The love and compassion we all share here is what carries many of us through the difficult times each of us goes through in life.

With much love and gratitude,
Kathy

Caryn's tag puts everything in perspective for me and so I respectfully need not respond to her post in a debate.
The heart that is soonest awake to the flowers
Is always the first to be touched by the thorns.

____
its a beautiful tag that explains alot.

I can't find Bruce's post reinstating Juditha but wanted to say I am on everybody's side and we can find the love together..sometimes have to look under rocks to find it, but as I see it we can do not else and eventually we will find all the love within ourselves and each other. thank you Juditha for always mentioning the word love in all your posts..maybe we all should follow her example? theres a thing called tough love too, because this world is not just about one of us, its about all of us and I happen to know through spirit that Linn has the spirit of love inside her also and Bruce, and Doc, and everyone does.
I still say all this was meant to be exactly as it unfolded and all appears to be well and we can move on I hope without hurt feelings knowing we can get all the answers we desire by going within.

Juditha, come back, you're still one of us dear! always liked that girl for some reason!

LaffingRain wrote on Aug 4^th, 2006 at 3:12pm:



It's at the top of this Forum.

Alysia, thanks for your sincere message filled with love and grace.

I must say, i spent an uncomfortable weekend thinking i had left a battleground; although one good thing happened in Juditha's ban being lifted, i did feel i left on Friday in a flurry of strong words that may seemed as an attack on you Alysia and this never sits well with me.

I apologise if any hard feelings were felt and if my post may have been out of line.  You have offered your hand in friendship Alysia, to all of us, it is appreciated and respected with love.

My love and a big hug
Caryn