Just beautiful--- thanks for sharing. Love and Light--cat

hey there Bets!   you ask the most interesting questions. this is great. I'll start off. even though I'm an afterlife explorer, these days what I'm doing is tying the now physical life into how it creates my afterlife experience, so I'm going to run a short story by you and let you all laff at me. because it is funny and maybe someone can learn from me..don't know, we have to go thru our own journeys. but here it is.

I also will tell about contact with my deceased friend, however it was brief.

I don't know what focus level I was in. I never do. all I know I was 20 yrs younger than now, and had just broken up with a live-in situation and the future looked bleak. my focus level therefore was FIND ANOTHER FRIEND to walk with Pronto! My emotions, you might suspect were on channel extra sensitive called desperate.  btw, I'm not ashamed of anything I've done.  ok, so without knowing I was steamrolling into my reality, I set an intention to find a relationship and listed criteria. 1) must like my 2 snotty kids
2) must never walk out on me  3) can be funny looking
3) must be willing to sit and intellectualize for hours with me

I couldn't think of anything to add to the package, so I got the above minus the things I'd left out.

so I think that explains how we can do explorations of reality, both physical and nonphysical and only get what we've decided on our list of projections.
the problem with my funny looking guy is; after 8 years, he wouldn't leave! and I wanted him to.
so its not about security, that comes from fear, not love. you should always ask for the highest good of both people. I forgot. as for the intellectualizing I couldn't get a word in edgewise. it was awful. although I'd never had this before, the conversations of length so I liked it at first. yes, come from love, not security desire. oh, he loved my snotty kids. a plus feature. finally, I'd asked for the right thing in that.

Larry died last year. In his spirit he reminded me of a pixie with intellect. after he died he made the rounds of all his friends to try to make contact. I can hear words from the other side and so one day in my kitchen out of the blue I heard his familiar greeting "howdy, howdy." whenever he came over these were his standard greeting. I stopped in my tracks, pleased I could hear him. I had been waiting for two weeks. he seemed in normal state; not up, not down. Just Larry.
I told him I missed our emails together. I had been trying to get him to see that there was an afterlife, and he always said he would just wait and find out for himself; he didn't want to investigate. and then I rubbed it in..as you can rub things in with friends..I told him "I told you so, now didn't I?" he said yea, you were right. then that was it. later, I saw him in a dream with one of his best friends hanging out there.
he was slapping his forehead. he was just realizing how incompatible we really were, and that while I was studying his oddities, he studied mine, but no, it was not a match made in heaven!! lol.

all this is to say gang, write it down, it does come true, but don't leave out any details. and then don't sell yourself short either, but keep to the idea of trying to find out what unconditional love is and practice it.

cheers, alysia

that reminds me Spooky of Bruce's "recall specific memory" in reference to the feeling attached to such memory will start a chain reaction and you can make a new choice about the experience to sort of disengage the negatives..so then the ugly becomes less ugley and beauty can be found in the eye of the beholder.
I agree to think of love or PUL as an energy because it gives energy to the self.

even physical energy comes from a kind word which causes one to feel good, or to feel loved; or just appreciated. for example. I used to garden on public land and sometimes I would wonder why I was doing this, as its hard work. then once in a while someone would walk by and offer a word of appreciation for the beauty that they saw. something would happen to me. I would take that energy and suddenly I felt peppy and enjoyed to pull the weeds with this fresh energy. this would be PUL coming from out there to inside me. but to me, it seemed amazing that a thought could indeed energize the body itself!
yes, PUL could be like a drug! ha ha!

hugs, alysia

hey...I was called mother Theresa on this board once. I was sure they were talking about me and to say the least I resented it!  I think we can move beyond such stereotyping...I would hope anyway.
maybe its this way: as a retriever you start off with a conception of your self image in that you are not there yet..its just an image of yourself doing it. an image comes from the imagination...but then I come here and learn my imagination is a good thing, and instructs me; not fails me. so you start doing it. action speaks louder than any process of building an image but they go together. so I'm Mother Theresa. so what?

to help others retrieve is a good idea, as I no longer think of retrieving as simply telling some poor bloke they are dead dead dead. its so much more. its IS a kind word as the successful retrieval is bring the dead or alive back to some form of feel good. what feels better than appreciation, love, or a recognition this person even exists?
not to get off subject, but this society is too technologized. you call someone on the phone; what do you get an answering maching with jillions of buttons to push and u never reach your party until an hour goes by maybe, then they say they need to redirect your call and the cycle begins again. what are you going to find in this technology? not human kindness, thats for sure. thats an example of how bereft in personalization we are. love, retrieving, kindness, this only happens one on one and retrievers can provide that understanding, that each of us happens to be a spirit as well a human struggling.

once you start retrieving you start understanding peoples patterns of behavior, how they can get stuck in beliefs day after day..and the funny thing is PUL frees them to move out of that belief. but what I wanted to say about love or PUL and self image, the first step is willingness. you have to want to see it first then only your focus goes in that direction and you find it covered over with allusion. being willing in spirit to see only love puts you thru some grinding experiences at first but you hold up strong and keep your willingness and life changes then, because you are just another human and we all have such similar problems in connecting and relating.
so if anyone calls me mother Theresa. fine. at least I'm not Hitler!  hugs....I need a place to live...BYE!!!

Thanks Bets...pushing my buttons as usual!

Mairlyn is demonstrating whats gonna happen in the future to society as we evolve. the heart intelligence is too intelligent to blow up the world, so thought I'd throw that in for the nay sayers who believe in destruction potential of the human nature. sure, we create wars but we can look forward to the merge of science as Marilyns website puts it forth. I mean science and religion merge. for many ideas expressed here have to do with religious concepts we've carried for generations as a society speaking...and we can't rid ourselves of those concepts all at once, but only the concepts that pertain to PUL and tolerance among peoples will evolve us.
I love science. I'm more into holographics and string theory but I'm only at the beginning of merging science and religion. I've lived a few religious lives and assume theres been benefit there; but it IS time for science and the heart intelligence idea excites me beyond anything else....so whadaya expect of mother Theresa clone? lol. thanks Mair..you're my sister. love ya. alysia

Greetings all,
I was just noticing that we have more readers than posters,  so I wanted to note that when a reply is addressed to a particular someone, that's just for clarity.  So thread-readers can look back and see what they're responding to. In no way does it intend to set up a dialogue limited to the named 2.
Even if a person had not read the part of the book up fpr discussion, they might have questions or comments based upon what had been said so far that would help everyone examine and clarify their thoughts.
The intention isn't to paraphrase or speak for Bruce Moen, but rather to explore what happens as a result of reading his works.
(New discussion questions coming soon.)

your right Mairlyn, nothing much happens without the PUL element and we will be expressing this the rest of our lives and there will be some who won't get it so thats what I'm thinking about right now. the funny thing about your post is from where I am your post is shown as posted at 11:01. I don't think you knew that would happen but it has meaning for me. hugs, alysia

Hi Rick, well said I must say and basically my own story; I'm sure others benefit from reading these posts and I'm glad you posted.  speaking of Murphy's law. I used to live life looking over my shoulder, waiting for karma to catch up to me. then I died. when I died I stopped looking over my shoulder as I realized everything that had seemed wrong in my life had a purpose I could not have known. I don't know how to express the freedom from worry these days to not have to look over my shoulder to examine what I might have done wrong and was being punished for. it was all just belief system programs making me dance faster than I needed to. nowdays I look forward to any crash..I actually try to find a good crash because I know whats on the other side of it. more freedom. I shouldn't say I try to find a crash, but rather I can focus on really enjoying life now without worrying like I used to about every little thing that happens. its true what u say in a way; that all those who experience NDE do not really live here on this planet fully, nor do they want to be here; as once you've been to the other side, this earth fails to satisfy those deep cravings to return home to our natural state.
however, we have our reasons to remain and live out our term; only we are changed people; freer somehow and so we can really make some headway to share our stories as best we can. and again, I feel very happy about you and send gratitude that you posted. hugs, alysia