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Reply #60 - Jun 15th, 2006 at 11:19pm
 
Thanks Alysia.  You're a very kind soul.  I didin't know you had an NDE.  Do you have it published somewhere?  I'd love to read it.  Hugs back,
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Reply #61 - Jun 15th, 2006 at 11:57pm
 
Hi Rick, I can't find it in the archives, but heres a clip from my book not published yet, the whole chapter is 12 pages which I can't put here or I would! thanks for reading it!

What!?? Im d-e-a-d? The concept hit me with the full impact of a gong show. Duh!! I felt an incredible sense of elation and urgency to be moving now that I knew I was dead. I had been floating in a subjective realm, now I had an objective, and so it was true that some after death had difficulty to discover an objective: that black velvet thing had driven me to my daughter after surrendering concern or objectiveness. Now I needed to be moving out of the physical plane to wherever there might be like minded parties as my daughter had retrieved me to the purpose of love. I was late for my appointment with death!  Late, just as the others I had retrieved had had no appointment. As retriever I had enjoined them to family, where the love was. But Im never late for anything! All my life Id been curious to know what it was like to be dead and now I knew!  I must go hon, but I will visit you soon! I told her.  I was thinking, guess I wont have to do dishes again like she is doing! Then I grinned. I knew I would be checking in on her frequently although she would barely be aware during these times I sent her energy or surrounded her with the thought that everything was going to work out ok. She felt so small. I knew what a huge light she was and so equally tender hearted. I closed my eyes and surrendered to the great unknown of death, my form arching as if a straight up flight was the only possible choice. I could have been like a puppet and the strings were pulling me up at the speed of light. This was symbolized by a powerful explosion of what I can only describe as a majestic trust within surrender and no desire nor expectations. The tunnel of blackness caressed me in flight. Something was going to have to catch me because I didnt know where I would land. DP said I was in rapture, whatever that was. I was completely free form falling before you pull your rip cord only there was no rip cord. So this was death...complete surrender, the end of one movie and the beginning of another. My soul would know where to move me instinctively, but love would awaken me to self-knowledge and that I had transitioned.
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Reply #62 - Jun 16th, 2006 at 1:33am
 
Wow Chuckles! What you wrote was truly powerful!

Please let me know when your book comes out, for I direly want to read it.

You have an amazing amount of wisdom/insight to share...  Smiley

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Reply #63 - Jun 16th, 2006 at 12:15pm
 
Thanks Alysia.  I'm in suspense.  Please finish your book.  I want to read it.

I have a question for you.  I've had a very similar experience of flying at or greater than the speed of light.  In my eperience I had the feeling of shooting straight up, like you, but I looked back and saw the beautiful blue earth.  There was an angelic like being (it felt feminine) with a wand of some sort  floating below me.  She pointed to the sky above me and said, "Don't look back! Don't Look back!".  I looked upward and at that moment felt as though I was shot out of a canon.  I reached speeds that seemed incomprehensible.  Stars were flying by me.  It was incredibly exhilarating.  Then I started wondering where I was headed.  Some fear must have come out becuase I was immediately grounded firmly back in C1.  I've always wondered where I would have ended up if I had kept going.  I've heard others talk of their experience but I'm curious to hear from you - did you actually land somewhere or breakthrough to some other dimension?
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Reply #64 - Jun 16th, 2006 at 1:01pm
 
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How does the love energy used in afterlife contacts (or as presented in Bruce Moen's book) differ from your previous concepts of love? Does that affect your life beyond your afterlife involvements?



There's a big, big difference. I had no idea PUL existed until I experienced it myself. There's really no words to describe it. I didn't realize that LOVE was such a powerful energy.

Yes, it affects my life beyond my afterlife involvements. I look at everyone differently now and know that they are me and I am them because we are all ONE. I project PUL to them and look for their reactions. Some smile, some look startled, and some are so deep into their own miseries that not much gets through.

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Reply #65 - Jun 16th, 2006 at 2:29pm
 
thanks Cosmic but you have a lot of the same thoughts and feelings I have and I resonate with you also strongly. Rick, yes I did end up somewhere; actually it was a simile/future jump of this forum which stretches into the world where I ended up. I'll post some of it in a separate topic as then we can talk about Bruce's books on this thread, as it was reading Bruce and Monroe's books got me started on my own adventures.
I feel embarrassed to get off topic on Bruce's site. its really an honor to have found this forum five years ago.
I found reading books similar to Bruce's and Monroe's can instigate your own experiences just by making you curious if it's possible. Rick, you said your flight was exhilerating. same here. I think that since we are energy, not solid beings in flesh, that we were experiencing our energy moving that fast as the sum total of all our beliefs. don't know if thats correct, but I was always aware of myself being myself and not in process of disintegration, but there is something which takes care of us even when flying at the speed of light. in the moment of surrender you have a thought that you may be headed for true exstinction, but it didn't happen. this may have been your natural fear. in my opinion your angel is one of your guides who watches over you as you do obes and told you not to look back. the minute you look back gravity pulls you back into what is familiar to you; my thoughts. this does seem to be the planet of fear; the nearest opposite to love. someday Rick, we won't look back, even if it's attractive, and we'll see where we land!

same here Mair, I've had people say to me "are you for real?" they were expecting to be judged or put down as usual, and I don't do that to people; never did. but now anyone in my orbit seems to have been put there for me. I am no expert what PUL energy is, but forgiving prepares a way for it to show up. mostly forgiving self for mistakes. and thinking about us all being one really helped.

Rick, when I get finished with the book, I'll announce it on the announcement forum! yaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! so glad Bruce put up an announcement place. Wink  hugs, alysia

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Reply #66 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 9:11am
 
(Please don't think that when new questions are posted that previous discussions have ended. You all keep on!)

In this next section of AKG Bruce goes into some of the exploration techniques. PP 150---200  est.

Re: Focussing attention through (non-physical) senses)---
Touchable traits of the afterlife are sometimes the most startling, textures like Bruce's textural black gooey mass and "Flying Fuzzy Zone," and solids.  Have you experienced touchables and how did you deal with it?

Re:  Helpers---
The range of methods that Helpers use to become known to explorers is extremely varied. Although we've met some of Bruce's and maybe some of yours,  do you have memories how Helpers aided and perhaps surprised you?
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Reply #67 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 2:01pm
 
hi there..my most real seeming (although doubts are natural when first learning retrievals) was when I touched Cami's leg, and it felt like real flesh out there. I know this occurred because I had asked the guide who had come to my physical location of my body to assist me, if I could involve some of my physical 5 senses in this retrieval so to make it "real" to me.

some of us see faces appear in our minds..I believe this can be similar to what Monroe calls phasing..an instant opportunity to jump into another dimension and explore or retrieve. or you can also allow doubts to overcome you and flip back into C1.

Trust and wonder appear to be conducive to the gaining of more experience.

along the lines of that thought; heres my thought for the day found in ACIM, a book I trust. "There is no challenge to a teacher of god. Challenge implies doubt, and the trust on which god's teachers rest secure makes doubt impossible."

I have decided!!!! yaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaa!! to open my home up and teach ACIM with spirits guidance. (a recent dream I had, I was going to do that.)

heres another funny little story about guides, and the way they use symbology to get a point across in the dreaming mind.

I was sure I would publish last Feb. before that I was sure I would publish the same year I wrote my book. I admit, I should make a movie called funny girl. well, I posed the question to spirit "When? am I right?  in a dream I was in a motel; a temporary house of consciousness. I rushed to the door on my way to attend to business oblivious of many factors. there by the door was a guide blocking the door. not only that I stepped on him..he was laying flat on the floor..I stopped in my tracks and apologized for not seeing him there. he just grinned. when I woke up I had my answer. I had been ignoring to ask for guidance and was only in the beginning phases of pulling a book together. now the real work would begin. the work on myself. as you have to humble your ego to not be talking trash in books. the ego can get in the way. I'll never forget this young male guide with the silly grin on his face, teaching me to notice that guidance is all around me and I need to keep my mind wide open to be taught how to serve others thru my writing.

then there was the name Laughing Rain. I received the complete name in the hynogogic state. I thought it meant the name of one of my guides, as I'm sure we all have more than one guide dropping in on us with nuggets of info. here and there. I used the C1 imagination method to find out what the name meant. I found an indian fellow out there and asked are you my guide LaughingRain? he said no. I insisted he must be LaughingRain. I started to get agitated as he said no, he wasn't. I insisted, yes, you must be. finally he left as I must of freaked him out. I decided maybe laughing rain would show up some day. I find out a year later its an affirmation that was planted in my head to form a new self image, to laugh at the rain. it becomes a pen name, but first I needed a whole year or so to get used to the idea as I didn't think it fit me, and it's not quite serious enough; which I always thought I was a serious person!! lol. I would never have thought of this name in a million years as I thought it was too new agey. I thought folks had too many indian guides anyway...why not an Irish guide, or? everyone had indian guides...well, I've accepted it and I like it now. and I think it's true we all can get too serious at times and need to lighten up.

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Reply #68 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 3:44pm
 
OK Alysia,
     I'll tell a Helper encounter I had that was 'light.' (Please excuse if I already posted it when I first joined, but maybe some newbies might read this.)
     As far as I knew I didn't have Helpers or Guides when this happened. I just had an annoying voice that occasionally offered comments that I didn't want to hear.
     One night I 'woke up' from a dream that I was going to try to puzzle out, get the meaning from. But a light was on in my closet and the sliding door was open. A sheet was hung across the door opening in front of the light. I couldn't remember doing that but thought I'd ignore it so I could think about my dream. Apparently I was on the wrong track with my dream interpretation because shortly some shadows appeared on the sheet, 2 women and a young man. By their gestures I could see they were laughing uproariously. They sort of hurt my feelings because I got the sense they were laughing at me. About that same moment I began to realize that my closet doesn't have a light in it and no way did I remember hanging a sheet across it, and what were 3 people doing in there anyway?!
Just as I thought I might get afraid, I got irritated enough to ask them who they were and why they were there. The young woman with braids was the only one I could hear clearly; she said her name was Polly and said they weren't really there. Then they (their shadows) stood in a row waiting for something but I faded away.
     Since then I learned that they were my Helpers and I've been working on my attitude--trust and courage?!--so that I don't demean them or make a fool of myself. They have advised that I not lose my sense of humor. They will not let me name them; The young fellow looks like an Alexander to me but he insists not. Writing this reminds me that I could learn alot more if I would pay more attention to them. Thank you for reminding me.
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Reply #69 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 4:11pm
 
thanks Bets, I enjoyed reading that. its so like the way my own guides play with me.
I have a friend on another board who received a guide recently. he asked what is your name? the guide said we don't need to go by names on this side but if you insist you can call me Carlos, the name of my last life I held. so thats what he did. this guide will sometimes be in his car with him helping him to turn down streets to avoid delays and such. they really have their practical side as well.

as far as laughter, it helps to release negative energy, or stress build up.
I hear theres some aliens don't know what a sense of humor is!  I'm really trying to stay with your questions u kindly guide us in here. so I invite others to share any stories on topic and appreciate it! hugs, alysia
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Reply #70 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 4:42pm
 
When I first read Bruce's book about the black, tarry stuff around the person, I 'saw' it in my mind as having been around me for the 28 years of abuse with my husband. It was like I was stuck in it in the physical. I was amazed. Since then, I have released all of it and am surrounded now by Light. Wink

Regarding Helpers, I always knew they were there but didn't see them. They always surprised me by being there to take the person to the Light. Since then, I found out that my deceased husband is the helper that always goes with me on retrievals. The Helper is always on my right side and moves forward at just the right time.

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Reply #71 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 10:58pm
 
Hey Chuckles, I think that if I had an Indian name it would be something like "RunningWithScissors"! LOL! (Actually I'm not much of a risk taker... unless it of course it involves self discovery.)

All joking aside... As Chuckles wrote: "Some of us see faces appear in our minds." This is exactly what I experience. Some of the faces are of people I know, and some are of people that I've never met. Possibly guides/helper/different aspects of my I/There disk. I haven't been able to take it any further however, I just see the faces. Usually the faces will appear to me before a blue background, similar to the sky.

As Marilyn said: "Helpers are there to take the person to the light". That's what happened with one of my relatives when he was chosen to escort his grandmother to the light." She couldn't do it on her own because of the fear that she had inside of her.

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Reply #72 - Jun 18th, 2006 at 12:11am
 
yes, hello all. the helpers for me are usually more than one and I've noticed they can be to the left or right of me; they appear as forms but I don't decipher features of face, but for the most part are male; except for a few occassion I consider I have a future self appearing as separate from me and of course my future self is female..lol....just rambling here and not saying much, but shore is fun!!! I do notice whether they appear as young, middle aged or older, but mostly the guides all can look in their 20's and 30's and I've heard this is common. my grandmother has taken the appearance of being 20. she's gorgeous!  dying has it's good points I guess! strangely enough I do decipher features of physical people I've met later, but not the guides. the image of my grandmother was somewhat vague around the edges but I could make out a creamy complexion and black hair and a pretty face.

I did see the face of either a maintenance or fireman at the time of 911. very clear details and I was amazed; it turned out to be a retrieval while I was studying his face and the only time I phased that I know of. he had dark hair, a wide set brow, twinkling eyes and a gentle nature. I got him out of a bad mood first and then the helpers moved in, about 4 or 5 of them. I never get overworked in retrievals.

if anyone sees a face, I might suggest that you study the face and try to hang unto the image for more information to come in. thats all I can suggest in helpfulness right now. its not always a retrieval though, unless thats an objective. I did have that objective when I saw the man's face. I just didn't know what to do at first but stare at him and wonder.

RunningWithScissors...hmm..you are probably a hairdresser..hmm...a Cosmic hairdresser...cool!

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Reply #73 - Jun 18th, 2006 at 1:28pm
 
Chuckles wrote:

"RunningWithScissors...hmm..you are probably a hairdresser..hmm...a Cosmic hairdresser...cool!"

"A Cosmic hairdresser!" LOL! Grin I've actually never cut hair before, but that's quite a take on it... I was kinda leaning towards kids always being told not to run with scissors... hence, "RunningWithScissors"! Smiley

I'm going to try what you suggested about seeing the faces and holding onto the image to see what may transpire. It seems hard for me though because it is always just a brief flash of a face; nothing longer than say a 1/2 sec or so...

Hmm...? A Cosmic hairdresser... Hmm... "Ah yes, that's it!"... "Maybe this is a good place to insert the fabled bathtub image!" Smiley LOL!

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