Bruce Moen
Ex Member
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Gede,
>> I think that maybe I'm trying to hard to "see" or to be aware...sort of pushing. Should maybe relax more. <<
If you are like me the problem is in the definition of "seeing." I expected that seeing within a nonphysical reality would be exactly like seeing within physical reality. I too would have said things like all I was getting was "a lot of "nothing hapening"...images coming, fleeting, clear for a second and then vanishing...saw twice the face of a man with long white hair and beard..no words...barely visible scenes sometimes...<<
At the time I didn't realize that this is the most common form of nonphysical seeing, and I didn't know how to use that form. From my present understanding of "seeing" I'd say you're getting exactly what I get most of the time. What I learned to do (with a fleeting image that might be clear for a second or two and disappear for example) was to focus my attention on what I had just seen instead of trying to force myself to see it or more again. In this case "focusing my attention" just means remembering what I had seen. I discovered that even though I didn't see that image again I began to have thoughts that I interpreted as information that came from, or through, that image. I then just continued to follow the "natural course" of those thoughts.
That fleeting image can be viewed as the unexpected event I talked about in the workshop. One then just plays along with that unexpected event to follow where it goes.
Think of these fleeting images this way . . . You're driving down the freeway at 70mph and you see a road sign ahead, maybe it says "Exit 251 5 Miles." You only see it for a few short seconds as you speed past it, but it gives you information about what's ahead of you. You wouldn't stop and drive backwards, spending your time trying to find that sign to read it again, would you? No, you'd just continue driving along the freeway knowing that Exit 251 is ahead of you.
Same with these fleeting images, they are like road signs giving you information about where the road you are on is leading to as you speed by the signs.
To continue my metaphor . . .
Once you saw the "Exit 251 5 Miles" sign you might start focusing your attention on that sign, just remembering what it said without trying to see it again. As you do this you might "see" another fleeting image, another road sign that might say, Joe's Cafe 4 Miles. Just focusing on what you saw again, without trying to go back and see it again, just remembering it, will probably lead to another sign. Continuing this process you'll discover that thoughts, ideas, feelings, emotions, etc. come with each road sign. If active pretending is still required at this point it would be to begin to make up a story that begins to bring the information in all the road signs into a coherent story. For example the story, so far, might be . .
Exit 251 is ahead of me, and a place called Joe's Cafe is probably near that exit. As you continue this process more elements of the story will reveal themselves, as images, or thoughts, or knowings, or hunches, etc. At some point the story will sort of take on a life of its own. At this point, like when Grandpa said he was a bank robber, just play along.
Know that it will probably feel like you are making this all up, but keep following the story, as questions of anyone or anything you perceive. Ask to be shown, given or told something that will prove this experience is real, that's a key to getting "proof." If you use this process at some point, as for many, many others who have used this process, you'll begin getting evidence. And at some point you'll start getting evidence that proves that at least some of what you are experiencing is real.
When that happens the process of removing blocking beliefs is well on its way and this leads to clearer perception, more evidence, etc.
>> Do you still have to "pretend" as a starting point to "phase" in the inner realities ? <<
What I do now, at most, is a short Prime the Pump exercise. For example I might say to myself, I want to see an image of the number 12, or of a banana, anything. Once I see that image, whether it's 3D, holographic, full color, or the briefest fleeting, fuzzy, barely discernable, black and white, I assume my nonphysical sense of sight is stimulated enough to use it and go ahead down the freeway from there.
>> You teach that its ok to pretend, and I understand that as being a crutch, or better still, a tool for beginners, that once you are beyond doubt, you directly "phase-in". Am I right ? <<
Yes. I'd say that I've been doing this so long that now if I place my intent to contact someone I know something will happen. It could be a fleeting image, a feeling, a thought, etc. I've come to accept that since I placed intent to make contact my next thoughts or feelings that are the least bit "unexpected" are the road signs directing me to the person. I just follow those road signs knowing the person is up ahead, not the least bit worried about the image quality of those road signs, or of the person when I arrive at their location.
Hope that helps,
Bruce
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