The concept of a disk (or cluster as Newton called it) never resonated with me. That, of course, is irrelevant.

In view of other discussions relating the Bible to concepts such as retrievals, I don't recall whether the notion of a disk has ever been discussed in the context of the Bible or biblical principles.

What's your take, Don? Or anyone else? New age or what?

R

   I suspect that there's a lot you don't know about the larger reality Rondele.  After all, your repeatedly stated beliefs here are that exploring the Afterlife/nonphysical is a fool's errand and supremely dangerous (because of demonic entities). 

   That would tend to close one down to intuitive perception into the deeper nature of nonphysical reality. 

     Yeshua taught that faith was important aspect of experience and perception.  I have faith that there are very positive, Loving, powerful Beings that look out for, guide, and protect us, especially if we consciously ask for their help.

  I have faith that if one seeks sincerely and with helpful, service, and Love oriented intentions and ideals, that one's spiritual eyes will become opened more and more, especially as one lives spiritual truth more and more.

   Yeshua said that if an individual seeks the Kingdom of Heaven and the Creator, and backs that up with livingness/choosing constructively, ALL remembrance from the beginning would be opened up to us. He even said that he, through, or with, the Father, would help with that opening up for Souls going through this process. 

  My spouse, Albert, I, and many others have experienced this process in some very dramatic and subtle ways.   Both my spouse and I between us, probably have had some near 30 to 40 dreams dealing with past lives, and/or even sometimes future probable lives (more so her on this latter aspect). 

As well as dreams and messages dealing with other selves going on in this same space/time cycle.  For an example, she had a very vivid dream about a young blonde woman, whom was thinking about moving permanently from America to England with her boyfriend, and while my spouse was observing all this, she had a certain knowing that this woman was part of her larger Spirit self whom was living in the same space/time cycle as her.   

    There is a point, where skepticism goes from being helpful (as a grounding balancing), to becoming cynicism, which is limiting and not helpful whatsoever.  In fact, even just a little too much of the latter, closes one down to expanded truth and perception of the larger reality. 

   If I may offer some personal advice that I'm fairly certain could help you: There is much need to consciously work on and engage in opening up your heart, especially in a more universal way. Get in touch with your inner Feminine side. You're VERY male and very centered in your head/intellect, which is why you don't have too many experiences and perceptions dealing with the nonphysical and larger reality. 

"You're VERY male and very centered in your head/intellect, which is why you don't have too many experiences and perceptions dealing with the nonphysical and larger reality" .

You obviously haven't seen me tear up during emotional situations.. sad movie, reunions of loved ones, etc. In fact close friends and relatives wouldn't even recognize me based on how you described me.

Don knows me personally, maybe he'll comment.

But yes, you are correct in terms of a streak of cynicism and skepticism in my DNA. Car dealers hate to negotiate with me. That character trait may very well be the reason why I didn't have any contact during Bruce's workshop. I can't dispute that. I think you're correct.
And I'm not even from Missouri 🤔

R

rondele wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:


The disk concept is incompatible with the Biblical worldview. How would individual judgement and eternal heaven/hell work if we are actually "one" with multiple other individuals, all of them having various beliefs, values and moral standards? You'd have 2/3 of your disk going to hell and the other third in heaven, LMAO. For those who take the word of God seriously, it's a silly and deceptive idea, as it gives people the impression that they themselves are gods and it contradicts much of what the Bible teaches.

Keep in mind that just about every demonic spirit channel out there pushes this higher self concept as truth. It's essentially an ancient Hindu teaching that has been repackaged for the modern new age deception. Also keep in mind that Hinduism itself is entrenched in Satanic teachings and practices, so I wouldn't be surprised that the demons teaching about the disk in the new age movement today are the same ones who taught the ancient Hindus.

I Am Dude wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:


    So let me get this straight Vince, any source that talks about an an OverSoul/Monad/Disk/I-There/Higher Self etc is being influenced by Demons? 

   So when Bob Monroe, Bruce Moen, Rosalind McKnight, NDE's, etc all reference to the above concept, they are not speaking from spiritual revelation and helpful/Loving guidance, but solely from Demons influencing them? 

     Are you seriously trying to sell that here?  Have you met Bruce in person?   He might not be at Yeshua's level and he occasionally gets some things off, but he is one of the more loving and kind people that I've met.   

   Are you aware that there are NDE's that speak of the above concept as well?  Are these NDE's coming from Demonic forces/influences?   

  Here is an excerpt from Mellen-Thomas Benedict's NDE account, "As the light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our Higher Self matrix. The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a mandala of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in each of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us comes directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source."

    Have you considered that perhaps you're the one whom is being influenced by Demonic entities currently? Have you considered that they are pushing you to a very extremist, over fundamentalist and way over extreme conspiracy belief systems?   How many dreams over the years have you had about dark ET's messing with you, etc?

      Is this you in the below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT616ppcgLU

   Maybe you were never as spiritually mature and evolved as you have thought you were, and are easier to influence than you realize or have thought, because of your lack of attunement to PUL and over attunement to selfishness and ego?   

    Please consider practicing this:  With deep, intense, sincere feeling, pray, "Prime, original Creator and Yeshua the Son, the Light of Creation, and all those whom are completely One with these and also of pure Love, please shield and protect me from any hindering and negative beings and influences."   

  Remember/feel Love and gratitude, and ask the above what has been going on with you of late. 

  I will also ask these, if it's in alignment with their will, to temporarily cut off any connection to you from negative entities, to lift you up, give you some clarity and balance, so that you can perceive what's really going on. 

  When a person starts seeing Demons and Satanic rituals everywhere, all the time, and everything from Moon landing to all NASA space pictures are all conspiracy's designed to mislead people, then there is an imbalance and likely some influencing from negative beings going on. 

    Unconscious fear has overwhelmed and is swamping you, and you're being manipulated by beings whom don't have your best interests in mind. 

   

     Related to my above post:  My spouse's mom is a fundamentalist, extremist Christian.  The kind that is very judgmental, unloving, unhappy, imbalanced, whom believes everyone but her is going to hell.  She's also super right wing politically. 

   Basically, she's a miserable, very unbalanced person, whom made my spouse's childhood very unpleasant through her severe lack of attunement to Love.  She has said and done some very, very hurtful things to my spouse. Yet, this "Christian" reads the Bible, she talks about God, Jesus, she watches the religious channels daily and constantly, etc.  But, she rarely lives any of it. She is a very immature, unloving, and imbalanced woman.

    Many years ago, before we were fully open minded to the belief of the existence of negative Reptilian ET's, my spouse had a very vivid dream where she observed her mom praying to God, and instead of connecting to the Loving, true Creator, my spouse very clearly saw her mom connecting to a group of Reptilian beings whom were influencing her. 

  Why, how could that be?  Because her mom's conception of God, is a very distorted, VERY fundamentalist, unloving, OT heavy, wrathful, judging, angry kind of God. The kind of God that sends sinners to eternal hell on a whim.   

   The Christianity we see today, is quite different from what Yeshua directly taught when he was public.  It has been infiltrated by negative beings human and non human, like the Reptilians that my spouse observed her mom connecting psychically to. 

  Not the Loving, but just and fair, Abba that Yeshua constantly talked about.   

  The kind of Christianity that gets people to hate and judge people whom are gay, that gets people to believe in eternal hell and damnation, that spreads fear, hate, and separatism in various guises. 

  This sick, twisted, demonic influenced form of Christianity seriously needs to die, to be replaced by living spirituality which is all about Love, ethics, responsibility, positive service, empathy, tough love, self sacrifice, etc. 

  People that get involved with these fundamentalist, extremist, negative forms of Christianity, allow themselves to have energetic connections created between them and negative groups like the Reptilian ET's. 

   I tell you truly, Yeshua immensely dislikes these false, distorted forms of Christianity that lead people further away from him and Love.

   Is there hoodwinking from negative beings and groups going on in the New Age scene?  OF COURSE, but understand, it's happening in ALL areas of human belief systems, including religion and Christian forms of same. 

    These will use any and everything, to try to mislead people. 

  However, one need not worry about them, because, all you have to do, is to consciously ask for help, from Beings that are purely Loving, purely helpful, purely constructive-creative, and if you are being sincere, they will help, guide, and protect you if you need it.

I'm sorry that what I said was offensive so that some posters felt the need to take the conversation to a personal level. Addressing the points I made would have been a better strategy than ad hominem attacks, as what I've said has yet to be debunked; rather some are trying to debunk me instead.

I hold no grudges and all is forgiven, although I'm sure it's clear why I have little interest in engaging in this type of interaction. I'm not interested in justifying myself, I'm only interested in glorifying our Heavenly Father, becoming closer to Him, and learning and sharing His word. I'm sorry some seem to feel threatened by that, but frankly, that is your issue.

Perhaps this article will provide some pointers for a more honest and kind debate strategy in the future. As for myself, hopefully I've made it clear that I won't be engaging in debate. I simply don't have the time to read (let alone respond to) page long responses repeating the same viewpoints that I've heard over and over, many of which I personally believed myself at one point or another in my life. Take care, brothers and sisters. May God bless you and show you His love and wisdom.

http://thesheaf.com/2014/04/01/debating-shouldnt-be-a-personal-attack/

   Vince, did the Teacher of teachers, the Master of Love Divine, ever speak to people personally and critically? (the answer is yes).   

   If you could see my heart and my intentions, you would see that my "getting personal" with you, is motivated by Love and desire to see you become healthier and more whole. It has nothing, or very, very little to do with my ego or selfish sides.

  I think you are letting yourself be led down some very limiting paths and into some very limiting belief systems. This is me engaging in tough love, trying to reach through to you.   

  Try to separate Yeshua from the man made, negative human and negative ET group(s) influenced belief systems that have been built up around him over the last 1700 years or so (especially since the Romans became involved and made it their state religion--that when Christianity took a real nose dive for the worse).

  You don't need Christian religion and institution to benefit from connection to Yeshua or studying his teachings and life directly yourself (not other's interpretations).  Albert for example, is someone that has read the NT, considers Yeshua's words and directly connects with him throug a combo of prayer and meditation.  Have you noticed Albert's interactions with others here in a consistent sense over the many years?  Have you noticed how even, tempered, balanced, moderate, perceptive, holistically logical, and usually kind, though sometimes firm, he tends to be with others?   

This is because he has benefited from connecting directly to the Creator and to Yeshua. 

  Keep in mind that negative, deceptive entities most often manipulate by half truths--meaning a mix of some truth, with a lot of falsity.   

  Yeshua is truth, but there is much distortion in religious Christianity as an institution.  There is some truth to "some" conspiracy type theories.  But a lot of what you've come to believe is not accurate, helpful, or balanced.   

   A really good source for grounded, balanced, and very well researched conspiracy theory or alternative news type info with a lot of holistic logic is James Corbett and Corbett Report.  He is very, very intelligent and perceptive, holistically logical, humble, deeply cares about humanity in a universal way, and does very quality research into a lot of what's going on. 

  I don't know if he's consciously aware of it or not, but I often get the sense that Yeshua communicates with James quite a bit, and that James is a long time Helper.  (But of course, it's still important to use your discrimination and discernment, because James is not fully enlightened aka completely like Yeshua yet).

This may help us better understand John 10, from an expert: http://www.michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/SBL%20Psalm%2082%20in%20John%2010%20...

Ad hominems against the author of this article http://drmsh.com/about (<<<do research before making false claims) are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to avoid real understanding of the topic, as were the previous attacks on my character instead of addressing the actual content of my posts. Dr. Heiser is light years more qualified to make any statement about the Bible than those here who would rather only accept the parts of the bible that agree with their own views.

   Vince, just believing in Yeshua and God does not automatically make a person wise, spiritually intune or aware. 

  This is something that Albert shared in the dream section awhile ago, and very much relates to this whole discussion. True spiritual growth, takes a lot of consistent focus, dedication, self sacrifice, stepping aside from self, positive, holistic service to others, a lot of self and shadow work, etc, etc. 

  Anyways, what Albert wrote back in 2012, and something I can relate to, because I went through and am going through a similar process as he talked about.  If we truly want to join with our Source and the Whole, then we all will have to go through this process too. 

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  Anyways, again I'm going to back off for now and for awhile. I know that someday, you'll understand more clearly where I'm coming from and that I'm not trying to hurt you, but engaging in some very needed tough love (but without a cord of whips and not yelling angrily at you. NT humor, smile brother, humor opens up the heart.). 

Hello, here is a clip with Bruce Moen. This part of the conversation takes about 4 minutes and he talks about disks and eventually God. If the link starts from the beginning go to 26 minutes 46 seconds and play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLIklq28-qM#t=26m46s

  Thank you Uno.  I watched the link you shared. What Bruce talks about in his video, is pretty similar to what he talked about in his books. 

  My specific question wasn't really answered.  Also, I would say that while I'm mostly in agreement with Bruce on these issues, I would stress the experience of individuality a little more. 

   Meaning, while all Disk selves are part of a larger self and all these are all part of a larger perspective, all the way to the full/complete Oneness of the Whole perspective, they still are very much self aware, unique, individuals all down the line.  That's pretty important imo.  There certainly is some difference, though not true separation, between various different Disk selves.  Even when all Disk selves fully graduate and they all become fully attuned to PUL and the first/original Self which started it all (what some call Source, the Creator, God etc), there still is some difference. 

    I'll give an "ultimate" example.  There are a number of Souls and Disks that are like Yeshua now, in that they have consciously merged with Source and PUL, they are fully conscious of their Oneness with the Whole, and some of these have become Co-Creators of other realities and selves to experience them. 

     We might (more like, likely would) have the perception of these kind of individuals as radiating "White Light".  Yet, my perception is, having tuned into and communicated with both Yeshua and other Co-Creators, that there are subtle, but yet noticeable differences in the radiation of these White Light radiating individuals.  For some reason, Yeshua's radiation seems to be more intense, bright, pure, and powerful than theirs (except for the original, first Self whom started it all).

  If true, then how come or why?  Aren't they all pure channels of PUL?  Aren't they all very similar and in harmony. Don't they have full telepathic, constant communication and awareness of each other and the Whole?  Yes, but growth aka positive change/expansion doesn't ever seem to stop or "cap". The reason why Yeshua's radiation is even more intense, bright and more pure White Light, is because of a combo of these two facts of his history and experience:  He was the first of all the original Children of Source to consciously merge with Source, and two, he has sacrificed more for others, more often, than many of these other Co-Creator Beings. Some of these would be and have been apprehensive about directly incarnating in say a Planet on Earth and connecting with very slow vibratory energy fields (aka "bodies").   Why, because they know there is the definite possibility that even they, could fall into unconsciousness and get stuck in karmic patterns. 

     Yeshua, though he was completely One with Source and the Whole, took on this challenge and sacrifice for the sake of others, and dove in, with the possibility that he could get off track more than he would want or anticipate. Possibly even stuck.   

  Anyways, so it's not truly like a fractal or holographic in a completely literal, direct sense. This metaphor implies complete sameness of all parts, and that's not how it all works.  Same basic essence/framework, but some differences of patterns, and those differences of patterns is what makes a particular portion of the Whole, a self aware, individual. 

     And Source VERY MUCH likes this difference/individuality.  It's kind of like the human saying, "variety is the spice of life."  Indeed, and Source cherishes that uniqueness, variety, and the differences.  (some might ask and rightfully so, how could this human speak so confidently on these issues, as if he knows what going on in Source's mind/feelings?  He doesn't directly know, but Yeshua sometimes speaks through or into the heart of this odd human). 

   

  Hi Uno,

  Ah frontloading. An interesting topic. If one listened to some sources, one might get the sense that they believe, or that fronloading is, always a limiting thing. 

  Truth is, it's not. Take Yeshua's entire life. It was all about frontloading necessary truths among humans. He was retrieving, and came at just the right point in human history, where this was helpful and EXTREMELY necessary (for the larger growth and healing of the Whole, to take place). 

     I would ask you Uno, or Bruce Moen as well, a personal question.  How many internal, clear, straightforward guidance messages from your Higher self and the purely Creative Forces as well as from other's Higher selves, would it take for you or him to come to the realization and acceptance, that one has come to that position in spiritual maturity, that one has the necessary wisdom, discernment, and authority, to interact with fellow humans and front load in a way that Yeshua did when he was public? 

   Me, I'm a little stubborn and slow sometimes, and perhaps because of that, and of the necessity to work through shadow aspects first, at first, self was given little clues here and there over the years from age 4 on, but then the messages kept getting more and more clear and direct, to the point where self was even being told in these dreams of self, my spouse about me, a number of talented, well recommended professional intuitives, that one was finishing up the process of full completion in this life, at least for this particular Soul. 

  How many different messages and years, would it take? 

 Speaking for self, it took more than my fingers and toes combined, both in messages and years. Even some very, very clear messages, like being called Immanuel by a guide figure in a dream, being told, "you're like Christ, your eyes are like his" in another dream, having a dream about the second coming and expecting Yeshua to show up to you, but then for some reason, YOU show up to you with a big, mischievous smile on your face like, "I got'ch yah" when your future self sees how surprised your past/current self is.

   We have again, come to a similar cycle as was the one when Yeshua entered.  We are on the cusp of one, the (old) Age, phasing into another, the new age, and again, does humanity need fully clear individuals to step forward and do some real, heavy duty, big trackor/bull dozer front loading.

  The difference this time?  It won't just be one individual (Yeshua), but a few who will and have been given this authority from on high.  It's a little more group oriented this time.  Hey, it is the beginning of the Aquarian age after all, and Aquarius more than any other Sign, symbolizes the "group/collective".  Eventually, all humans will move into this pattern of becoming like their Elder brother Yeshua through attunement to Love. 

  But, an interesting question and thought to ponder?  If those individuals that I spoke of above, DIDN'T come here to lay down with big bull dozers some heavy, necessary front loading...would humanity, as a collective, get to this collective point in some thousand years, like is now probable? 

   Ohhhhhh nooooo, it wouldn't ever happen in a probable sense. 

  Hence, the intervention at the necessary, proper times. No worries, I don't ever expect to get thanked until after I phase back into the expanded levels (leave the physical). 

   In fact, if recent messages and clues are any indication, I will receive far, far less than thanks from humans, and more like what Yeshua received for his frontloading of positive service, Love, and truth.
    Fitting then, isn't it, that this self was born with the Solar position under Capricornus, the sign of the sacrificial goat, the last of the Cardinal (cross) and Earth signs?  Indeed, that was the plan set up for this self.  Yeshua, was also born with his Solar position under Capricornus (though not December 25th, but what we would call January 6th according to our current calendar).  We were also both born with the sign of the Lion Rising (the Rising sign being the symbol relating to body physical and personality), the sign/indication of the heart and spine.

   Such is and has been the way of this world, and will be until it is healed and fully transformed. Mostly, I'm grateful for the opportunity of service, and what it will facilitate for both the Whole and more immediately self (being able to phase to the Home of Homes where I have longed to phase to for a very long time). 

  No hay probelma on the name shortening. 

   I understand what you are saying, and what you are saying is good advice for those starting to consciously get into this whole nonphysical exploration or communication thing. 

   Even though I've received a lot of verification involving more consciously directed exploration/questioning, my Expanded self/Guidance team knows me well and knows that for more important or say, easier to distort (because of preconceptions, beliefs, etc) information, that I prefer and tend to receive this kind of information most in the form of dreams. 

   Why?  Because, self knows that my personality, conscious mind, has no direct influence on forming a dream guidance message.  In other words, it can be a direct injection from one's Expanded self level, bypassing the conscious, distorted, personality mind level to that level. 

   Now, it still needs to be interpreted correctly, and often with any messages/info we receive from the nonphysical, it has to be put into symbolic metaphor, so that we can even understand/perceive/translate it in a way that our conscious, personality minds can get.

   But, as I said earlier, some messages come through quite clearly and unmistakably.     It also has a lot to do with the attunement and vibratory levels of one's human energy system. 

    Do the right things, make the right choices, live the right way, and more and more the level of your personality, conscious self, starts to merge with your Expanded self.  This is primarily through, attuning and opening up to Love. But so  much else also impacts this, everything from the health/vitality and balance (or not) of the body, to how consistently or not or deeply one is meditating, ones diet, exercise, how much one engages in or focuses on sexual activity, etc, etc

   Now, our Souls, all come here from different levels/states of consciousness/dimensions which are all either slower vibratory or faster vibratory than one another (in their relative attunement to PUL). 

  If a Soul comes here from a particularly fast vibratory, expanded level (VERY attuned to PUL), then this whole process of attunement and bringing the body personality under bear and in line with the Expanded self level, becomes easier and faster of a process (though not a give in while connected to a human body). 

    Simply because, high quality of consicousness on a being level tends to beget and facilitate high quality and perception of consciousness on a personality, human level. 

  This earth and humanity, is a school populated by a majority of consciousness that aren't particularly expanded and attuned to PUL.   

  Hence, occasionally retriever Souls from outside of this system and school, come into the Earth in human form, to help make corrections and to retrieve/transform stuck, limited, distorted beliefs/belief systems. 

   There are more Helpers in the Earth and in human form, than have been in a very long time.  But even among Helpers, there are different levels, different quality of consciousness, different degree and expansion and clarity of perception all related ultimately to their relative, changing attunement to PUL.   

  We have not had a fully competed Soul directly in the Earth for a very long time, before Yeshua showed up. Since then, he has been here continuously incognito for the last some 2000 years. 

  To fulfill the spiritual transformation of this world, he needs at least a few initial Helpers to fully follow in his footsteps in a similar manner as he did when public.  When these go public and become known for their "miracles", healings, living Love completely, etc, then he will step out of his incognito role, and make appearances with his Helpers and say to the people they are exampling to, "These fellow humans, are a fulfillment of the promises I made to you so long ago, that if you choose to live like I have chosen and do choose, you can become fully like me and do similar works and even greater than I had did." 

    After all of these become known, and inspire and encourge people, they will take a step back, and hope for the best, that people got the message that this is a universal potential and path for all, and that it's about livingness and choice (ethics, Love, etc) and not about specific belief systems, religions, political, etc. 

    Perhaps you think or have the preconception, that the above has come from preconceptions and human level distorted beliefs, but if you thought that, then I would suggest opening self up only to the purely Creative Forces or those that these may send to you, under more ideal circumstances, and ask them with no preconceptions at all, if what SL2 is saying is mostly accurate or not. 

  However, for seeking such information, it's important to understand, that there beings and forces that don't want these kinds of truths known to humans, and hence, will try to focus on misleading people seeking such information.  Hence, while you're asking to connect with and communicate only with the purely Creative/PUL attuned Forces etc, it would be a good, pragmatic idea to at the same time, ask these to protect and shield oneself from any and all outer hindering, negative sources.

  Not a preconception or distorted human level belief, but based on much dream and other guidance and some rather intense experiences over the years with such negative forces. Besides asking for help in dealing with these, becoming PUL personified helps to automatically shield a person from these, but how many humans are that attuned to PUL?  With that in mind, then it's important to consciously ask for help from Beings and levels much more aware, powerful, and Love attuned than self.   

   If you don't mind me asking, are you completely new to this site and posting on this forum? 



 

It's good advice both for beginners and veterans. Taking a good look and sorting out true knowns from assumptions / beliefs / conjecture is not only taking an honest stock of personal inventory but also a prerequisite to see things as they are and not how we think they are. I'm new to the site by the way and friends describe me as to the point.

Thanks SL2, it's nice to meet you too.

Assumptions, beliefs and conjecture is the ABC of fantasy is another way of saying it. Was speaking generally when explaining my perception of frontloading. Is my perception of what Moen said correct? It's an assumption.

Moen using the term disk makes sense because I have also seen a disk like object but without the features Moen talked about in the video. This topic is interesting. Philosophy is also interesting.

How do you receive direct guidance, is there anything you need to do to prepare for it?

How do you tell the difference between ordinary dreams from dream guidance?

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      Nowadays, I rarely ever seek information. Figure that if I need to be shown or become aware of something, it will happen. Also, I've learned that my guidance team wants me to rely on developing my intuitive knowing perceptual capacity more and more. 
     However, I still attune to Expanded Guidance regularly, for other, beingness, reasons.  This is generally what it looks like:  Before opening self up in meditation, I pray and set an intention of, and with feeling, "I deeply desire and ask that the Light, wisdom, and power of the Source surround, guide, protect, fill and lift me up so that I can be a more clear, holistically helpful, and loving channel of spiritual awareness and holistic blessings for others.  I deeply desire and ask to commune, communicate with and attune to only the purely Creative Forces or those that these may send on their behalf." 
     I spend some time "toning" (often Ahhh RRRR EEEEE Ehhhhh Ohhhhhh uMmmmmmm, going from low tone at the beginning to gradually raising it till the Mmmmm part is the highest tone).  Note:  I use to think toning was silly and unnecessary, until I had some interesting experiences with it, and came to the realization that if done right, it directly affects the human endocrine glandular system more than most things besides one's own consciousness.  Sound vibration of course, can be in resonation, and can resonate, the matter of our bodies according to the rule set here.  Which is why in Ancient Egypt, the Great Pyramid and some of the Temples which no longer exist, there is so much acoustical physics design involved in the creation of these. Some rooms/areas where designed to amplify human voice toning and/or instruments. 
    Geez, Justin, stay focused!      Ok, so after that, I focus consciously for awhile on remembering and/or feeling the feelings of Love and/or gratitude. Something that often comes up for self, is a very deep sense of gratitude towards our Source, our Father-Mother and for this beautiful gift of being a part of the Whole, and yet still being an individual and self aware.  I feel this gratitude/appreciation so intensely that I often tear up.  Sometimes I ask that Expanded Guidance with help in opening up to Love more or as is as most helpful for self.
       Then, for lack of a better way of explaining it, I go deep, deep within.  Often after a little while of this, hard to explain, but I often feel an expanding sensation, which is non localized, but tends to come in waves of deep stillness, expand, deep stillness, expand. 
     As mentioned, I rarely seek specific info anymore. But occasionally I ask the purely Creative Forces and/or those that these may send, this. "If it is your Will, please bring to my conscious awareness that which is most spiritually helpful for me or the Whole (meaning more humanity overall) now." Then again, I go deep within and get very still and with no preconceptions, just let what may come, come.  Sometimes I don't perceive anything, and other times I obviously receive some info. 
      
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     Don't tend to have ordinary dreams much anymore.  However, it's pretty easy usually to tell the difference. More ordinary dreams, for this self, tend to have more of an emotional component to them, and often like I'm working out/processing emotions through them.  For an example, my Mother died of cancer when I was 20. We were very close--she was one of my best friends, my first spiritual teacher by example (she never pushed her personal beliefs on me), I was her first born and born on her birthday.   
      Well, some 7 years or so later, I thought I was completely ok with her death, and I was on a consciousness level, but the body animal apparently wasn't.  I remembered a dream where the whole situation was being replayed-seeing her sick, seeing her die, etc and I was re-feeling the emotions, and I woke up sobbing and crying harder than I had in a very long time. 
       More expanded, guidance message type dreams tend to have a more detached, observer type feeling--often with at least two, or more simultaneous perspectives.  Often common ime, are sure knowingness.  In the further past days, it might take the symbolic form of a guide figure telling me something, or a knowing, wise, non localized voice relaying info. 
       But as I already outlined, the more I attune to PUL and generally grow, the more I phase my personality, consicous, body mind into the much faster vibratory levels of the human energy system, the more I tend to receive guidance in the form of subtle intuition, which is like a knowingness that comes conceptually, without sense oriented phenomena or related translating. 
      I strongly suspect, that if I can continue on the path of growth, and raise the vibrations of the body physical enough, then I might come to the experience of pure, expanded, knowingness constantly or near constantly.  I got a reading with one of Bruce's good, personal friends awhile back whom is a professional intuitive, and she told me in the reading that in about 9 or 10 years, I would become completely wide open psychically. Full conscious telepathy and the whole 9 yards. 
      I've been a bit skeptical of that part, because I'm not sure how a human body can be that opened up.  I very recently had a dream which spoke to it it seems, I became aware that my body had mutations I wasn't previously aware of.
      After the dream, I just kind of intuitively knew this related to ET tinkering that went on when my Mom was pregnant with me (a couple years before her death, after I told her about an ET dream, she told me about some of her experiences and one of hers was of being on a spaceship with some loving and familiar non humans and they were working on her body, comforting her about the future, etc).  My mother, according to doctors, because of a childhood illness, wasn't supposed to be able to successfully have children.  Indeed, before me, she had a number of miscarriages trying. 
     Then she had the above dream around the time she became or was pregnant with me, and not only successfully birthed a baby, but did so on her birthday (a gift most wanted and most cherished).  I've had a number of guidance messages dealing with ET's.  That psychic reading I mentioned above, she also said that I was being led by a service oriented ET group and for a purpose, but that I shouldn't dwell on it, that as the time came closer, I would become aware what my path and service was. 

     I'm going full public now for deeper reasons, of which I will not go into, because I'm not allowed (it relates to a combo of the Earth changes/collapse brewing and the development of the so called, somewhat misnamed "2nd coming" of Christ. Suffice it to say, self has been nudged to start talking about all these different experiences fully, openly, and publicly. 
     Interestingly, and I've just become aware of this consciously, I've been doing so while transit Sun has moved into my 10th House and has been trining my Sun Merc conjunction and trining Jupiter and Mars conjunction first, and has just started to trine Saturn (ruler of my Capricorn Solar Sign position). Considering the way that my astrological chart is set up, this is quite interesting and fitting symbolism. 
     Short synopsis, or summary of all the above, the more an individual truly and fully attunes to PUL Consciousness, the more and more is opened up for them perceptually.  The more one's existence since the beginning is opened up to them.   

   Right, Albert. Both Cayce's guidance and Rosalind McKnight's guidance talk a lot about the importance of dreams as an avenue of receiving guidance messages, though, both indicated that there tended to be different possible "levels" to and kinds of dreams. 
   Cayce's guidance indicated that nightmares and nonsensical dreams where not messages, but occurred more because of imbalanced body reactions due to food/diet or substances with strong effects on the body.   I learned this first hand, as when I was a child, and my diet was much worse, and I often ate closer to bed time, I use to have plenty of nightmares and nonsensical type dreams. 
    After I started to make major diet and health lifestyle changes as a teen, (such as stopped eating all beef and pork, no soda, little junkfood, etc).  Well, surprise, surprise, I almost completely stopped having nightmares and nonsensical dreams.  I then LATER read about this in the Cayce readings (hence, for Uno    , not a preconception/belief influencing perception/experience). 
      I never had much luck with classic out of body experiences--seems like I just couldn't have them, except for that one period/cycle that was very unusually slow vibratory.      
        I've learned that information/data is information/data, and guidance cares less about the specific forms involved, but more that people receive the info in a way that is helpful for them. Looking back, I think part of the reason why I never had classic OBE's, is because I didn't ever really need them. I was already pretty aware, intuitively led, and pretty open to guidance.
    Re: our new, and perhaps in another karmic/spiritual sense, old friend Uno, I kind of get the sense that consciously, Uno has a helpful intention and started interacting consciously, on their part, to provide what they saw as a necessary or helpful counter balance.
   Yet, perhaps unconsciously, Uno got attracted in, not so much to teach, but because there was some things that they could benefit from hearing for themselves and their own growth?  Dunno, might just be flattering self there, happens on occasion.   
     (actually, I don't view it as "self", I most view it as whatever wisdom or insight I may have, is most because of the Source within me/all of us, and my primary role is to open up to and channel that with as a little distortion and getting in the way as possible.  I KNOW I have not yet mastered that process, and self is not enlightened yet. Perhaps when the body starts disappearing to the perception of others at times, then I might know it's a lot closer.
       Interestingly, last week during a particularly deep and expensive meditation, I experienced nausea, which reminded me of my spouse's guide dream about raising the vibrations of the body a lot and disappearing to the perception of others).

    Perhaps this thread should have been called, "Indications or patterns of how attunement to PUL opens up an individual to one's Disk and conscious knowledge of same"? 
     Here's another clear guidance dream about Disk/Spirit history. Before I share it, it needs some context and background. As mentioned on another thread, after developing a health issue that was physically painful and embarrassing, I prayed earnestly to God and Helpers for help and was led to a Cayce book.  This all happened when I was 16. 
    At first, I focused primarily on the holistic health readings to try to figure out how to heal myself and what was going on.  But two things also happened: I ended up reading a biographical account of Cayce's life. When I got to a part describing a local priest seeing young Edgar as they were walking towards each other and the priest went to the other side of the road, I wasn't sure why, but I broke down and started crying intensely.   
      Around that time, in another book, I saw a picture of Edgar and felt a strong sense of deja vu and familiarity. I started to wonder, because of these experiences, if I had some connection with him. I had the following dream:
      I was in that detached, observer state viewing a huge library and I saw Edgar Cayce and an older, wise man with white beard and hair.  In that strange way of dreams, I just knew, that Edgar and I were connected/part of each other in some fundamental way. I'm experiencing it from both outside, and inside Edgar. Anyways, the older, wiser man, hands us a large book. 
     When we open the book, it starts playing a 3D movie where we observe this rough, trapper, pioneer looking white man, trudging through the woods. The impression is early America. As we're observing the scene, we get pulled into it and we realize, that we are also connected to this man as well. 
    The rough trapper/pioneer man, gets attacked and mauled by a black bear, and was laying on the ground severely injured when a youngish, half Native American/half White woman finds him.  The impression of the woman, is that she is both a healer and very intuitive and could communicate on a Soul level with animals.  The last scene of the dream that we observe is her helping the injured man/part of us and the impression that he lives. 
     As we close the book, the old man looks intently at us, and says, "Cayce, don't you think you had the knowledge within you at the time?"  For some reason, we (especially him) feel a sense of chagrin or self disappointment. 
     I found out sometime later, that Cayce's guidance outlined two earlier American lifetimes as past life influences on him in the present, and these were both named John Bainbridge and both lived unusually similarly as far as overall pattern, issues, and imbalance. They were both unethical, womanizers that tended to use and/or hurt people--especially women. 
    A friend or associate one time asked Cayce's guidance about these slow vibratory lifetimes of his, and why, since he had had also been Ra Ta, Uhjltd, Asapha, and Lucius whom were all rather spiritually intune, Helper types, that he would experience these low consciousness, selfish lifetimes.  Cayce's guidance indicated that this entity needed to experience the extremes of human expression.  Implied was so that he could be a better helper to others. 
    
    

Seems to me that you have a huge belief system built up around particular people and historical connections which you personally believe are pertinent. That would sum it up in a nutshell for me.

  Or, in other words, talk about belief systems (and unlike Cayce's work; very, very, very little of Jane Robert's info was or could be verified).

    Uno, is it "anger" to confront people and challenge them regarding limiting, stuck beliefs?  Particularly those that have a long history of being quite, shall we say, strident, in their own assertions? 

    Simple truth is, the Teacher of teachers often challenged people and their distorted beliefs.  Sometimes he did so gently and indirectly, and other times he did so in a much more direct or even occasionally in a fiery way.  There are many examples that I could give. 

  Oh, and he even occasionally showed anger (gasp).  Whip of cords, fig tree, and all that.

   Here's what I think from the way that you've engaged me here consistently so far: I think you have beliefs and assumptions about me, rather than having received clear guidance messages, or knowing anything real and of substance about this self. 

  The one you mention--well, we have different personalities, different astrological charts, and are nudged differently, for different reasons.  We have met up in physical a couple of times, and we both have received clear guidance messages about each other.  When we speak about each other, we speak most from a place of knowingness.  Not from idle, superficial observation of typed words on a forum alone.

     I really do appreciate your concern about me Uno, but I'd suggest the better part of wisdom, is to perhaps be more concerned about self and self's growth or lack, rather than another whom you don't know.  I've received very, very clear and repeated guidance, from both within, and without, that has told self that self is finally ready and has the wisdom and attunement to act in the capacity of a teacher to others.

    The guidance messages have come in various different forms.  Such as a dream of having a sure knowing, it was time to don golden robes. Or in a psychic reading, being told by Carolene Heart, a good friend of Bruce Moen's that he highly recommends, that it was time to move into a more active facilitating/teaching role.  Though she told me this back in 2011 or 2012, I'm only now doing so because I'm feeling more strongly nudged than ever (and I felt like I needed more purification).  Re: Carolene: http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/start.html ;

    An intuitive friend of mine had a dream about this self, that this self had authority to teach and help others, out of a large group of people who didn't.  These are just some brief examples, and do not cover the many messages over the years, that have been received.

    Have you received many inner and outer messages telling you that you have the authority and go ahead from the purely Creative Forces to act in this capacity with others? 

  It is fine if you think me deluded, a megalomaniac, and/or have some kind of severe personality disorder or the like.  Likely there is not much I can say to change your mind or heart, if that was the case.  As I've said to you before, I first became consciously aware of what I came here for, when age 4.  That knowingness was covered over for awhile, but it has been reawakened. 

     If you saw this self very clearly and with your spiritual eyes, you would love and deeply appreciate him, and the fact that he came to a world, he did not have to come to for the particular lessons here. That this was an act, a choice of PUL, self sacrifice, and service to the Whole, of a Soul who had no karma left to balance here.

  Be rest assured, that this self will not take advantage of, abuse, nor lead astray others while here, for he has been tried and purified in Fire and in Love. Not 100% quite yet, but rapidly getting there, especially now that he has finally buckled down with consistent meditation and deeper attunement.  The latter, has been part of the missing ingredient for him.

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   Uno, it's interesting that you said the above, for, in a sense that you did not mean, it has some deep truth. 

  Albert claims nothing for himself.  This is only my opinion/perception and what I've received from Expanded Guidance about Albert. 

  Basically what I"ve been told about him, is that he has the unusual, probable, potential, to fully follow in Yeshua's footsteps in this life, and become a pure channel of PUL and Source Consciousness. 

    Since I've been told similar about self from both within and without guidance (for example, the first thing Carolene Heart said to me over the phone, when I asked her my first question, "please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most spiritually helpful for me or the whole to become aware of." The first thing she said, was that I came here to get it all right, and for full Christ Consciousness) and if my perceptions of and guidance about Albert is correct, and if the many messages I've received about self from both within and without about probable spiritual potential is correct; then according to the Law of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like, then Yes; it would make sense that there is a very strong inter attunement/harmony between us. 

  It would also make sense of why we are so focused on Yeshua in such a holistic, deep, clear, and consistent sense---because we are reaching a more full, holistic attunement to him and his kind of consciousness within.  Remember, Like doesn't just attract and beget Like--Like also likes Like (birds of a feather flock together and all that). 

  The truth is, is that both Albert and I came to this world, on Yeshua's request, to partake in the support and fleshing out of the so called 2nd Coming (or if you prefer a different way of putting it, the probable future that Bob Monroe was taken to), in some strong and influential ways that will become apparent in the nearish future during and after the collapse/breakdown. 

  Again, this is not his claim, but mine.  I'm not 100% sure what he exactly believes, thinks, or has gotten about the immediate above.  I could be off some in general, or it could differ some with what he has received. At the end of the day, I'm more focused on what I directly receive than what others do.  I do however, pay a lot of attention to the things that Albert says, because of the clear guidance messages that I have received about him over the years, of which, I will not go into detail of.   



   

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     I couldn't directly edit the above anymore, but anyways, it's due for a correction.  The reply mentioned above is now the 13th and not the 6th. 
    Since I'm here anyways, might as well share another guidance dream.  I had this one not that long ago, after on another forum, I got ganged up on by a group of people and they were attacking me in a very personal and vicious way.  Only one person, a woman whom is empathic, and generally known there to be courageous and honest, stood up for me and principles. 
   The experience was a bit upsetting at the time, and I wondered why they had treated me in such an extreme manner, completely out of proportion to my supposed "crimes".  Shortly after, I had this dream:
        "The dream was odd--it had to do with some kind of infection in others that was causing problems in them and they were attacking me because of it. At some point, I learned somehow that my blood though, had a healing influence on them. I took a syringe or something similar, and went around taking out my blood and injecting it into others.  It actually did help them, it helped heal them. (this dream reminded me of a much older "zombie" dream, where I and others found a way of converting zombies humans back to happy, healthy, thinking humans)." 

    Interestingly, the Sun Sign I'm born under, Capricorn and a number of Stars in same, have very, very ancient associations in a number of civilizations with the concept of sacrifice, atonement, and the like. See:
http://www.bible-study-lessons.com/Capricornus.html
      Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua was born on what would now be considered January 6th according to our calendar and way of measuring/marking time.  He further strengthens this by saying that earlier in the day, the weather was cool. 
        Interestingly, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born with his Sun under Capricorn as well.  But here's what is crazy.  He was assassinated on April 4th, which is when the Sun is in Aries.  A lot of people think that Yeshua was crucified sometime during late March to mid April time period, which is also when the Sun is in the Sign of Aries. Some think that the date can be narrowed down a lot more specifically, such as: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/when-precisely-did-jesus-die-the-year-...   Note, the this person narrows it down to April 3rd, which is pretty dang close to April 4th.
      I consider Dr. King to have been one of the greatest Helpers to come to the Earth since Yeshua himself.  Interestingly, he was a devout follower of Yeshua, and probably had a good idea he might be killed for the causes he was standing up for, but still kept on working and serving anyways.
     So what is the deeper symbolism here between their birth and death times?  It was a full circle/cycle!  What do I mean. Those born under Sun in Capricorn, are usually conceived 9 months earlier when the Sun is in....you guessed it, Aries.  So both Yeshua and Dr. King were conceived when Sun was in Aries, born under Capricorn the Sign of the sacrificial goat, and then were killed by others (the sacrifice) when the Sun had re-entered Aries.
    In other words, the cycle had come full circle from their conception, to their death.  When it comes to such important events as births, deaths, and the like, coincidences are rare, as much of this is pre planned as most likely probability(s) before we even come into this world and connect to bodies. 
      Yeshua said that at some future date, he would send another "redeemer of the accursed" to humanity, to open up people's awareness about and make plain the truths that he had taught.  Yeshua refers to this figure as a "he", and his role/name has been translated to different things such as the "comforter", "counselor", "holy spirit", "helper", "advocate" and as mentioned earlier, in the Aramaic to plain English translation, as "another redeemer of the accursed".   
     That last translation is interesting, because it links this future "he", to Yeshua in some way.  And indeed, the Sign Capricorn, could be related to a concept such as "redeemer of the accursed". Yeshua says more specifically (from Aramaic Bible in Plain English), "26"But when The Redeemer of the accursed comes, him whom I shall send to you from the presence of my Father, The Spirit of Truth, he who proceeds from the presence of my Father, he shall testify concerning me."
    

Ok R2, it is a matter of not seeing the anger I speak of. Speaking of what you do see, do you think you will know by looking into the eyes of SL2 that he speaks with authority given to him by the Most High?

It's not strange that people can't speak of disk connections on this site, because people can do that. There is a distinction between disk connection experiences and disk connection supposition. The recognition of the difference between one thing and another doesn't stop people from speaking.

Uno:

Are you sure about what you refer to as "Disk suppositions?" Right now, without looking at what Justin wrote here and elsewhere, could you provide details of what he has said about his Disk members, or did you just gloss over them rather quickly? If you aren't able to provide the details immediately, this shows that you are willing to accuse somebody of being delusional, without first examining all of the facts. That shows more about you than the people you accuse.

Rather than going after Justin on a personal basis, perhaps you can be a bit more high minded, and speak of some of the points he makes, if they actually interest you. Why waste your or anyone else's time with trying to discredit Justin, if you aren't willing to read the points he makes in a thorough enough way so you can state what you believe is wrong about them, without getting personal?

I believe you are really wasting your time and energy if you choose to have a personal problem with Justin. Now I feel a bit angry, wise up with this unnecessary attack business.

Uno wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 2:54am:

   Albert, thank you for sticking up for me, but it's ok whatever people say or do to me--that doesn't matter, but only what I do and say to others. 
  To some extent, I can understand some of the criticisms directed my way, because I'm certainly not talking like most balanced and healthy people tend to talk.  And, I have made some pretty strong claims.  It's natural for people to be skeptical and even a bit off put, I suppose. 

    But, I will note, that for almost every personal comment and criticism directed my way by Uno, I have returned it not with condemnation nor judgement of him, but reasoned, impersonal, explanation.  I believe that this speaks far more about Love in relation to this odd self, then does it speak of where others like Uno are coming from. 

    In any case, Uno and I have talked some privately, and it should be now very clear to him via the guidance messages I've received about him (most shared privately), that he is fully seen, and yet still accepted and Loved.

   All is well, nothing is more powerful than Love.

TheDonald wrote on May 18^th, 2017 at 2:14am:


   I just want to impersonally note a couple of facts for the record.  Last night at around 1:25 am, I wrote on another thread that among a couple other folks, I would ignore Don in the future.  I will also note that on another thread, Don stated that he wished that Albert and I would just stay off his threads and not respond to his posts.

    But Lo and Behold, here is Don on my thread at 2:14 am the same day, talking about a subject (Disks) he fully admits he doesn't believe in. It's not about honest engagement and spiritual seeking--that's the facade. 

Hmmm, can one have it both ways?  Can one poke and prod another, and then turn around and cry wolf when a person responds back? 

  If we were in a court of law, how would it look for Don when he says one thing and does complely another, especially after this self says he would endeavor to ignore Don in the future?   
    Instead of pressing that little Peer Moderator button of power and control and complaining to authority about this in secret and no one knowing it was me, I prefer to be open, and honest about what I see as clear and blatant hypocrisy. Now, I could be cowardly and just try to get Don in trouble and slapped on the hand, but these are issues well for the group to be more conscious of. 

    Here's my issue/cross to bear, that I wouldn't wish on anyone.  I can see right through people and into their hearts and Souls. I can often see people more objectively, deeply, clearly and holistically than they can see themselves (you could say, it's both part of my job/what I came here for, and a talent I've developed in other lifetimes/experiences).
    If you did my astrological chart and understood such language/symbolism, this pattern would be glaringly obvious.  For just one example, Venus in Aquarius near exactly trine Libra Pluto, near exactly sextile Sagittarius Neptune, and closely square Scorpio Uranus. Venus is the ruler of the Moon and MidHeaven Signs, and is placed in the 7th House of others, opposed the Leo Ascendant degree (the sign of the Heart and spine). 

  I truly, truly would not wish this degree of perception and insight on anyone else as a human and having to be in this world.
   Now please excuse me while I go play the violin for myself for a little while.   

With Love for our bickering, dysfunctional family (a microcosm of the larger macrocosm of humanity in general)

  Uno, if I'm so off, then will you share just your first real name with us?  Chances are, there are probably millions of people with the same first name, so it's not like I'm asking you to give up your true privacy. 

   Here's my first name Justin.

Below within brackets are some responses.

TheDonald wrote on May 18^th, 2017 at 2:14am:

     According to you, what are some very good/clear/helpful outer sources and/or teachers that you would recommend to help reorient this deluded self back to the straight and narrow path? 

   And since we're here, have you ever received any guidance about a negative ET group that is very involved with humanity and has been a long time?  If so, were you ever shown their form/what they look like?

  Another Disk experience:  In elementary, I became friends with a neighborhood kid while I lived in the area, then moved out about a year later. We moved back to the area many years later during High school, and I had stayed back one grade. 
     I met the old elementary's friend, younger brother John. I was open minded to the idea of reincarnation and karma at the time, but I believed in the literal, Eastern kind.  I would occasionally meet people whom I felt very strongly that we had some kind of prior connection.  There was a strong sense of familiarity and the like. 
     Well, when I met John, it was like that, but even more intense.  In class, I would find myself just staring at him, trying to figure out the connection. Apparently, he felt it too, because I caught him staring at me a lot as well (I was VERY sensitive to this in general, and use to run "studies" in classes to see percentages of how many individuals would pick up on this). 
    We even looked a bit alike in some ways, like we both had Leo Rising (oddly, Edgar Cayce also had Leo Rising, but Uranus on same, so he was a weird looking Leo Rising  ).  We never became close, but were more acquaintances--partly because he was a lot more popular and I was a social misfit/outcast (and in other ways, he was definitely slower vibratory and I was definitely faster vibratory).
      I moved away, yet again, and I found myself occasionally having dreams about him, just like we were meeting up and exchanging news with each other.  During one of the first psychic readings I ever received, I asked the intuitive about John.  She said something that I didn't understand at all.  She said that he was my "psychic twin".  Hmmm. 
      Some more time went by, and one morning I remember a particularly vivid dream about John.  He had just moved into a new "dorm", and seemed so happy to be there.  I was very happy for him.  About a week or so after the dream, a High School friend called me up and said, "Did you know that John died a couple weeks ago in a car crash!" 
      I said, "no", but instantly that dream made sense.  Some years later, after hearing about and getting guidance about the veracity of the Disk concept, what the psychic said years before started to make sense.  John was a fellow Disk member, who had incarnated around the same time as I had. I have wondered if he was the incarnated, former John Bainbridge, because he had a very stormy, off and on relationship with a particular young woman.
       Anyways, if a person doesn't understand that Souls and the Spirit level aren't limited by linear space/time, then they just won't understand Disks, simultaneous lifetimes of different Souls that are part of the same Disk, etc

   Thank you Uno for the needed lesson. Occasionally I need to be smacked upside the head (heart?), with some reflection of my own shadow side/lacks.

Had you been truthful in the beginning with me about not having been here before,  preconceptions and beliefs would probably not so gotten in the way.  Two lessons here, the above one relating to humility and shadow, and don't take humans on their word, because so many tell mis truths.  It was my goodness and self honesty, that inclined me to take what you told me on face value. (I fully trust Albert, because I know his heart is pure, or near pure. I trust him even more than my spouse [whom I'm very close to], in some ways.)

  And yes, your vibe and interaction has changed much. If I didn't know better, I would think you were trying to channel T.C.   

  Take care and thank you for the needed lesson, but not for misleading me.