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Reply #15 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 12:43am
 
There are a few long-term members here who don't see eye to eye on various beliefs and continue to discuss and argue their opposing views. 

I'd love to get some partnered exploration experiments going again.  It's sad that most of the old group is gone from this site but I'm hoping newcomers will come and join in.

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Reply #16 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 12:46pm
 
Hi Vicky-

"There are a few long-term members here who don't see eye to eye on various beliefs and continue to discuss and argue their opposing views."

I think while that was the case, the forum has much less of that now. Yes, we all don't agree on some things, but I don't see the kind and amount of arguing that used to exist. To me the forum is a much more welcoming place.

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Reply #17 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 8:55am
 
What kind of PE do you (Vicky & Focus 69) have in mind? Could you maybe explain in short steps how a PE looks like?

I know the OBE style but this is not something i can do at will yet and it requires a lot of time at night.

Then there is Bruce style exploration where i failed.

And last is my own simple method of intent+perceiving impressions like faces, people, landscapes.

Be PE you mean going into NP as a group and then comparing notes or going there to retrieve someone?
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Reply #18 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
Offering this view as one who engaged in partnered retrievals [long ago]:

At that time I felt it was necessary to coordinate a time when all participants would meet. This is a mistaken view. This sort of work takes place out-of-time. That is my experience. All that is necessary is a retrieval target.

Likely one will make itself known. The individual will be in resonance with the needs of the retrieval participants, and I "get" this is being arranged. I have the feeling the target will be an "easy" one so that all feel a measure of success.
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Reply #19 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 3:21pm
 
Soulmael,

I think any method is worthy.  I like using Bruce's method.  When I've done his workshops it's worked well for me.  And, many of the other workshop participants also had success.  In one group PE we did in our last workshop, each of us got significant verifiable information.  Our target was someone known deceased of someone in the group.


Morrighan,

I totally agree about the time/out-of-time aspect. 

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Reply #20 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:53am
 
Ok nice. Smiley So next time i would like to try my perception skills. Our rules after reading the last exploration topics would be like this right?

Before person identification:
- only observe, not intefering with persons field
- no posting of notes on forum or by pm

After person identification:
- comparing perceived data with information about observed persons life from posted url
- notes can be shared on forum topic or exchanged between participants if desired
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Reply #21 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 12:53pm
 
Far as is known to me no "rules" exist regarding PMs in the time allotted for viewing the target. I believe it's common agreement not to share perceptions on the public forum until the target's name is posted so as not to colour the perceptions of other participants.

Yes it's an "observing only" exercise. No retrievals are required and I personally find it irresponsible to interfere with others and their free choices. It's quite possible to do information gathering without affecting another's personal field in my experience.

I'll post a new target today, seeing as the interest remains.
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Reply #22 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 1:25pm
 
Soulmael,

A couple of us have been sharing our own results via PMs, but we label the message with "Spoiler Alert" or something like that, so that the other person knows not to read it if they have not done their PE yet.

Personally, I really think it helps to share your findings with someone so as to get their insight after the results are revealed.  Sometimes another person can interpret something in a way you didn't think of, and it helps to have it pointed out.  That's been my experience.
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Reply #23 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 1:49pm
 
If there were a "Like" button on this forum you'd get one for this post, Vicky. Our experiences and observations match well.

Vicky wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
Soulmael,

A couple of us have been sharing our own results via PMs, but we label the message with "Spoiler Alert" or something like that, so that the other person knows not to read it if they have not done their PE yet.

Personally, I really think it helps to share your findings with someone so as to get their insight after the results are revealed. Sometimes another person can interpret something in a way you didn't think of, and it helps to have it pointed out. That's been my experience.

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Reply #24 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 3:04pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
If there were a "Like" button on this forum you'd get one for this post, Vicky. Our experiences and observations match well.

Vicky wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
Soulmael,

A couple of us have been sharing our own results via PMs, but we label the message with "Spoiler Alert" or something like that, so that the other person knows not to read it if they have not done their PE yet.

Personally, I really think it helps to share your findings with someone so as to get their insight after the results are revealed. Sometimes another person can interpret something in a way you didn't think of, and it helps to have it pointed out. That's been my experience.



Yay!  Thanks.  I often find myself trying to hit the "Like" button and then realizing there just isn't one.  Too much time on Facebook I guess, LOL   Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:20pm
 
I observe mind is the greatest impediment to accurate information retrieval. This just happened today. The following exchange, while not verbatim, is an excellent illustration of this assertion.

N: what is it that made me forget the bulk of the download for today's [mission] work?

Me: Nina. (The actual name is something that is not Nina. Close enough to understand)
[pause]
Checking my field integrity.

N: We know Nina. We encountered Nina before.

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So while my infos were spot on, my mind jumped in so that I second-guessed myself. To my mind, "Nina" made no sense as N asked me what, not who. Fortunately there was no hesitation in my original response, and that was the correct response respective of what my mind insisted.

And this is in part why sharing your infos in private correspondence with other participants on these targets is totally useful. A partner is quite valuable in verification. After all, this is the partnered exploration forum.
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