Recoverer 2 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Uno wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:


There's much more to the Gilligan image that it would appear to appear, Uno.  It's another one of my "ha ha, only serious" posts. See: upthread. I don't personally use the technique described. AIS, neither endorse nor deny. I know some who find it useful. <shrug>

The linked thread is new to me, Uno. Many thanks.

In part what I place forward are breadcrumb trails to multidimensionality. More than one thread recently posted speaks to our "higher selves." And I am of course aware of other models such as the disc &c.

The experience I am present to evolves even as I write it here. Our team's (I, and others who are not participants here) involvement in technical work necessitates technical language that is outside the framework of this forum. I observe the majority of this work we engage in is unsuited for discussions of afterlife knowledge. This is because we (our teams) work multidimensionally, and "afterlife" comprises but a fraction of the landscape we traverse.

In the empirical knowledge all I place forth here is [redacted] I find it best to shuffle the deck for Colonel Mustard, Mrs. White, Professor Plum and Mr. Green.

Morrighan wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:32pm:



Sorry to be that redundant but those questions are supposed to be ask when and what for again please ?

Morrighan wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 3:45pm:



I would be glad to hear about your technical language please !?

Focus 69 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:


     Ok, read you loud and clear now.    Yes, it definitely translates to the psychological as well.  One might say especially the psychological and the projection of repressed/disowned/repressed shadow aspects onto the other who reminds you, unconsciously, of those.

   For example.  If deep down you are a preachy person, often "preaching in your head" at others, silently, and if a person comes along who is obviously, outwardly preachy, or seems that way, then you might find yourself feeling compelled to tell that person (or others, about them), "Hey, you're a preachy jerk!" 

    The person in question might just have a passion for data, speaking, writing, self expression, but because you don't like that trait in yourself, but it's still strong in your unconscious, you "project" it onto the person who seems to be that way in a more obvious sense.

    What happens when a very fast vibrational, very PUL attuned person runs into contact with temporarily,very slow vibrational, lacking in Love folks?

The reaction is much more basic and fundamental. It's like putting baking soda and vinegar together. You can get quite a reaction. 

   The PUL attuned person tends to powerfully stir up the entire shadow of the temporarily slow vibratory/lacking in Love person.  How much of a reaction depends on the total difference between the two. 

   If it's a really wide gap/difference, then it becomes very noticeable.  Say person A, more attuned to Love, is at 900 (and 1000 is pure Love) and person B is 10 (0 being complete lack of attunement to PUL, which can lead to self destruction), then the reaction is REALLY strong and noticeable.   

     Person B. will come to vehemently hate/despise and really try to get rid of person A. They might say things like person A is completely worthless, completely without any value, only bad/negative, etc.

    A good example of this is Jesus and some of the religious leaders of his time.  He was at 1000 (pure Love) and he was interacting with some near 0's (who he called "brood of serpents/vipers").  Big time reaction, Ka Boom! 

   Other good examples are Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the racist white folks and the entrenched power structure (fed gov.).  He was like 900 and they were nearish 50.(He was NOT killed by a crazy white supremacist, but by a CIA plot. Less because of civil rights, more because he was strongly protesting the Vietnam war). 

    And so it goes with so many who have been killed, imprisoned, or banished because they were speaking truth to power, or just uncomfortable truth in general. Corruption hates truth.  Selfishness hates Love.

    We're seeing some of this on the forum of late. Thankfully, you can't throw literal stones through a computer screen at another, cause I suspect a couple people might be pretty bruised up by now. (oh no, he didn't just say that, did he?) 

   Well, this thread IS partly about Retrieval and retrieval is basically about communicating more expanded, accurate truth to those who currently lack conscious awareness of same.  Retrievals are also taking place in the physical level. In a sense, almost everything is about Retrieval. Any who are not yet consciously fully One with Source and the Whole, are to some extent "stuck". 

    Speaking raw, direct, undliuted, powerful truth (as this self is doing now) plants important seeds in people's subconscious minds, hopefully to be sprouted sometime later when the conditions are more right for that individual.  But just speaking/communicating truth and fast vibrational information is important in and of itself, even if it doesn't seem to have any obvious good effects or might even cause controversy, fighting, etc aka that "shadow stirring up". 

Regarding controversy, see the partial quote under my profile.  It's from Jesus, and because he so well understood the collective shadow of humanity and how truth, Light, Love powerfully stirred it all up, is why he said, Quote:


   I'm not religious, but do find A LOT of truth in him and his teachings.  Jesus knew his powerful, pure attunement to PUL would powerfully stir up the collective shadow of both individuals he came into contact with, and humanity in general. 

    I've come to follow in his footsteps, and I too come not to bring peace, but a sword. These forum "fights", etc are just practice runs for more intense, in person stuff later.

I would like to add something about "helpers" which appear today important maybe for you to know on my case.

When i say i try that "helper thing" what i did is just apply the Bruce's method more or less by  asking "mentally" for a helper then pretending hearing a voice answering and begun to make up an entire conversation with "it"... Then i replicate three or four times this process during other sessions and i noticed that sometimes "its" answers was usable and pretty interesting and at some points its like i could forget and separate hence build the illusion i was not the author of the script of this voice.

So was my method "correct or not" ?

Is it preferable to make up a conversation with an helper or just waiting for signs as weaks and hardly interpretable as they can be ?

Morrighan wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 3:45pm:

In my first incarnation on the forum I could and did use vagueness as a line of defense/offense in discussions and debates - to cause confusion. Vagueness was also a product of my inability to state my thoughts clearly. Taking a look at some older posts of mine, they are swept in emotional fog. It's anybody's guess what some of them are about, but I remember how certain I was about that which I wanted to put forth.

If one quiets the mind to the point of stillness (STFU), one is left with awareness and the possibility of pure observation?