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Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Reply #30 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 10:49am
 
Morrighan wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:44am:
I never gave the matter any thought at all, Vicky. "Do animals and others benefit from transition assistance?" is, in my mind, somewhere well below "which rookie player will the Beijing Rockets recruit as goalie?"

The event transpired as I related it. During a break in work I mentioned the spider exactly as recorded here. I did so on a hunch that when something out-of-the ordinary occurs, it's best to notice. Out-of-ordinary in this case was a spider who I previously conversed with showed up in my field before she transitioned. So I took note and mentioned it.

I totally do not go around doing retrievals / transition guide work for every. single. being. I know what is mine to do.


I don't think I saw your story of the spider so I'm not familiar with it. 

Like I said, I wouldn't think animals often need assistance, but in a couple personal experiences I got to see first hand how it's possible for animals to react after their death.  It's my natural response/reaction when something dies, even a bug, I have the thought/feeling that "it is a living thing and that it will naturally be in a better place now."   I guess it's my way of not feeling so bad when I have to kill a bug, like those annoying tiny gnats that live in plants...once in a while I'll see one at work and I have no problem killing them because they drive me nuts, but at the same time I still believe they too move on into the afterlife.   Wink
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Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Reply #31 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 10:58am
 
That's the old "you're going to the spirit world now" that we might reserve for mosquitoes. "Spider story" is on Page 1. I know a jeweler in Italy named Spider (Ragno). Last I saw him he holds no immediate plans to transition out of his body! Glad for that, he makes beautiful creations. I'm certain to send a ring to him soon for an upgrade.
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Reply #32 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
  Tis an interesting topic Vicky.  The way I look at pets, like your example above, is similar to how I look at humans in this sense.  It's not uncommon for people who die, to hang around for a little while--mostly because of attachment to loved ones, wanting to comfort them, give them messages and/or because people's intense grief holds them here. 

  In these cases, they are quite aware that they have died. It's more of a "lingering" rather than being out and out stuck in the classic sense that we usually talk about. That lingering can last anywhwere from days to months.  Usually in cases of "classic stuckness", a person isn't fully consciously aware/accepting that they are in fact dead, or their religious beliefs are so strong as to keep them very limited even if they suspect they are not physical anymore. 

   While animal bodies are pretty limited in certain, perceptual ways, I believe the the Souls that imbue animals can be significantly more aware and intelligent that what their bodies allowed them to express or experience while in physical (their bodies are more "simple programs" than ours).  I do believe pet animals like dogs, cats, etc can very much love us.  So there may be some of that "lingering" like with what happens with Souls that incarnate in human bodies.

  In any case, we were addressing "wild animals", more specifically in this case, spiders. Such energy forms are very instinctual both in physical life and nonphysically. 

   Some interesting points about retrieval and stuckness in general.  In a very real sense, any Soul and Disk whom is not yet fully conscious of their Oneness with Source and the Whole, is technically "stuck" and in process of retrieval.  Course, this will vary to many different relative degrees. The stuckness and retrieval we talk most about here, is related to the degree of suffering that an individual experiences.

  The more stuck, the more suffering one tends to experience. There are mature guide/helpers whom are not yet fully conscious of their Oneness with Source and the Whole and thus are very slightly technically stuck, BUT they don't really suffer that much.  They usually just have a deep and strong longing for home. 

  Such was the feeling that Bob Monroe sometimes experienced, though at first he connected it with his home energy system.  Turns out, what he really longed for on that deep Soul level, was his Home of homes--complete conscious Oneness with Source and the Whole. 

    The Souls whom are in the nonphysical hells connected to the Earth Life System, are more stuck than those whom are like "ghosts". In turn, those in the hollow heavens are less stuck than the ghosts, and those in the "summerland" are less stuck than the hollow heaven'ers, and the new guides/guides in training are less stuck than these, the more mature/long time guides are less stuck than these. 

   It ALL has to do with one's unique, usually (but not always) slowly changing, relative but consistent/average attunement to what Bruce refers to as PUL. Pure, constant attunement to PUL = complete freedom and full awareness = no stuckness.  The less clear and strong the connection, the more limited, stuck one becomes and the more suffering one experiences. 

   I did not get any of this from Bruce or his work--just my own intuition and connection to guidance. 

   
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Reply #33 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:10pm
 
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   While animal bodies are pretty limited in certain, perceptual ways, I believe the the Souls that imbue animals can be significantly more aware and intelligent that what their bodies allowed them to express or experience while in physical (their bodies are more "simple programs" than ours).  I do believe pet animals like dogs, cats, etc can very much love us.  So there may be some of that "lingering" like with what happens with Souls that incarnate in human bodies.
   


Hi Justin,

I really like what you've said here because I agree!  In 1992 I think it was, I got a kitten who was very special to me.  I may have told the long version of this story before  Roll Eyes.  But long story short, I could feel his spirit for a couple months before I found him.  It was THAT strong of a connection.  The feeling of his energy was that of a very dear old friend.  He only lived about 12 years but that connection was very strong the entire time, and even though he was "just a cat" I felt that his soul was so much more than that, and I always wondered why he came into my life in the form of a cat.  Why not a human?  It was an extremely deep, loving connection that even now makes me cry just thinking about what it feels like to not be experiencing it anymore.  I just miss him and miss his energy.  Sure wish I could just clearly know and understand the why of such a connection.  But I'm sure I'll see him again in the afterlife. 

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Reply #34 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:32pm
 
I had two cats that died in the 1980s. Within the past 10 years I've had several inbetween state experiences where one of these cats was lying in bed with me, and I shared love with it in a very affectionate way (I don't mean anything funny by that).

I cared dearly for these cats and really looked out for their welfare when they were in this world. Perhaps in some way, whatever their state happens to be now, they were showing me appreciation.

This is sort of different, I think this was a message, I had a lucid dream and one of the above cats was in it. Her name was "Lila" which means "God's play."  I had the thought that perhaps the creative aspect of being doesn't matter, only pure awareness does, and Lila became angry with me, stood on her hind legs, and threw a pillow at me. I think I was being told to not sell short the creative aspect of God's, Source's being.

I believe that animal pets are good at sharing unconditional love. It is a shame when people mistreat them.

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Reply #35 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:43pm
 
I'd like to add to the story of Lila.

When I got her she lived in a house that was owned by a lady that had more than 20 dogs and cats. In order to be kept away from them she was kept in a bathroom. When I received her she was very afraid and would hide under a shelf in the garage. A couple of times each day I would walk into the garage to feed her and I would speak to her gently.  Eventually she reached the point where she would walk up the steps that led to where the kitchen was in order to see about her meal, and then run down the steps when I came with her food. Eventually she would enter the kitchen to eat. Eventually she would hang out in the house. Eventually, reluctantly, she would allow me to pet her. Eventually, she would come to me to be petted.

There were times I would sit in the living room and listen to music. Every time I played the below song she would enter the room. I didn't notice her do the same for other songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm977UhnPwE


P.S. I need to add that there was a lady who lived in the house that also loved Lila and she would also show her love and helped her overcome her fear.

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Reply #36 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 11:30pm
 
  Vicky and Recoverer, I really enjoyed reading what you wrote--truly heart warming. 

  I have a strong connection to my cat's Soul--not sure exactly what it is or about.  For awhile we had two cats, the other one died unexpectedly about a year ago.  The other cat definitely had a stronger connection to my spouse. She had had a lucid dream about seeing our other cat's past lives as other, wild, big cats.  And like my spouse, she was more grounded and earthy. 

   Our current cat, seems more ethereal in nature. Hard to explain, but she feels less primal and grounded than the cat that died. Like she is not coming from wild past lives. Sometimes I wonder if she was a pet dog before, as she sometimes acts a bit like a dog in some ways.

  Anyways, the odd thing is that one time, my spouse had a dream where she saw me with the other cat who has since died (this was before she died unexpectedly), and her with our current cat who is more connected to me. Seems to be one of the many messages that she has received about me dying first, since I was with our cat that ended up dying.
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Reply #37 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm
 
Hi

I'm baaaack .... LOL

Aren't human so cute when they tell me how spiritually evolved they are!  Cheesy

One of the deepest and most profound conversations I ever had was with a porcupine. The wild sort, in the wild. Was in a forest clearing at night and the entire encounter completed in moments. What transpired? Several lifetimes of wisdom exchanged.

Coolest. Porcupine. Ever. (And the porcupine did not ask for transition assistance, BTW.)
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Reply #38 - Apr 7th, 2017 at 10:40am
 
We are all Gaia's children and nothing helps to talk with our brothers and sisters as much as unconditional embodiment here and now, in my experience.

Uluru (Ayers Rock) has much to share if one wishes to talk about the space where anything is possible. Our teams happen to call that space where anything is possible the Mirror Matrix. Do as you wish.  Lips Sealed
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