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Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Reply #15 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 11:09am
 
Morrighan:

It seems as if a person can't express a differing viewpoint without you calling it an argument.

Regarding spiders, there have been occasions when I saw negative beings appear as spiders. I'm not certain why they appear this way. It could be that my guidance was letting me know that an unfriendly being is around and used a spider image as a symbolic representation. Such spiders would have a creepy feeling that differs from what I sense from physical spiders.

It is possible for existence to manifest in a way that seems evil. I've felt this evil on more than one occasion. Plus destructive intent is destructive intent. I don't mean to state that evil beings were innately evil. Going by the information I received there are beings that started out as divine and then for whatever reason they became evil.

On the other hand, I figure that there is no source other than God and the Oneness we are all a part of. Therefore, even evil comes from source. It is a possibility that exists within us/God. In order to know ourselves we need to know about the possibility of evil. We can decide if it is something we want to hang onto. It provides some degree of contrast. Therefore, in a way, both Justin and Morrighan are correct about evil.

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Reply #16 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm
 
If you all would rather discuss whether spiders are aligned with love/light instead of afterlife transitions, knock yourselves out. <3
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Reply #17 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
I had a spider appear upon my person when I was getting into my car one morning recently. I noticed it drop down to the floor and it was too late to retrieve it and carry it outside. I had no other choice except to let it find its own way in the universe which is my car. I hope it had a good ride. I have not seen it since.
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Reply #18 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:57pm
 
How do you feel?

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I had a spider appear upon my person when I was getting into my car one morning recently. I noticed it drop down to the floor and it was too late to retrieve it and carry it outside. I had no other choice except to let it find its own way in the universe which is my car. I hope it had a good ride. I have not seen it since.

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Reply #19 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:58pm
 
I feel ridiculous. Like I'm in love with a spider. But, then, I love feeling ridiculous.
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Reply #20 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 4:15pm
 
Perfect! That's all there is to it. Love = WIN.

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I feel ridiculous. Like I'm in love with a spider. But, then, I love feeling ridiculous.

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Reply #21 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:25pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
If you all would rather discuss whether spiders are aligned with love/light instead of afterlife transitions, knock yourselves out. <3


  You talking abut spiders just reminded me of some unusual experiences relating to perception of nonphysical reality. 

  As to retrievals and physical spiders--spiders and animals don't ever need to be retrieved, or rather, very, very rarely so (I could see maybe an abused, former human pet animal perhaps needing retrieval, but not wild animals).  They don't have belief systems. As in physical life they are very instinctual, so to when they cross over.

Retrieval is about humans, and some other self aware, intelligent (in an intellectual and intuitive, self directed, rationale sense), self conscious Souls that connect to forms that allow expression of that in what we call physical reality. So what's up with all the yarn, or should I say, spider silk spinning?   
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Reply #22 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:43pm
 
Our human bodies are animals too!

I know a number of non-human animals who have contrary views regarding their own self-awareness.

If a being is in my field and I see there is something to be done, I do it because it is mine to do.
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Reply #23 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:57pm
 
I love having direct experience. That hand symbol has a great meaning for me and I say, yes, you have a real talent, Morrighan. Appreciation sent your way.
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Reply #24 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 10:27pm
 
   In a manner of speaking, Albert and I are involved in the retrieving of spiders.  Just not the former physical ones. 

   Souls who have cut themselves off from the Light. I've had dreams of retrieving in some rather difficult and dark places. These places reminded me of the "Hells" that Bruce spoke of in his books. To be honest, because of the nature of these places, I don't want to be particularly conscious of or focused on this retrieval work in my day to day human life--I've got enough on my plate to begin with.

  Albert has spoken some of his retrieval work here. Some of the individuals he has facilitated awakening within through his connection to Light, were fairly negative in disposition. 

So yes, I guess we can agree on the "retrieving of spiders" in a manner of speaking.

And we all have intuition.  There are many psychics out there whom are not particularly spiritually mature.  As the physicist Russell Targ talks about in a Ted Talk talking about remote viewing, etc, psychism doesn't require spiritual growth or maturity to work--they're just other senses. And yet, attunement to Love expands and clarifies perception more than anything.

   In any case, I think I'm going to start following Rondele's earlier advice and Bruce's general advice*.

* * Sentence removed due to Posting Guidelines violation.  It's not funny to everyone, Justin.  And you know better.  Knock it off. Last warning.
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Reply #25 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:38am
 
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Reply #26 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:59am
 
Funny Coincidences -- yesterday morning as I was leaving a staid government agency, a woman coming in nodded hello. She was black and wore a floor length black dress and scarf, both of which had large brown printed scallops, sort of feather- or petal- like.

Then in the evening I come here and meet Morrighan. I looked up the term and need to read more but at one time the Morrighan was also The Dark Goddess who could take the form of a raven. The woman I saw earlier seemed to sort of herald these posts by Morrighan.

That's all an aside though to re-greeting and congratulating Morrighan, who was here in the past and then he wasn't.

It seems that he has accomplished what we all, who have gone through the initial life-changing experiences of retrieving, could try harder to do.  He has moved more fully into the spiritual realms through intuition and symbolism and found a way to help/retrieve others who are not as adept. It seems like he's moved into a wholeness that most of us are just sampling.

Congratulations, Morrighan! I'm very happy for you!

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Reply #27 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:54am
 
I'm still here, 2bets  Roll Eyes (And last I checked, definitely female!)

Some of my understanding of The Morrighan is she escorts the newly deceased to the afterlife territories. She's also noted for her cooking .... The Morrighan is widely feared because when she shows up it means someone is going to die. My first encounter with The Morrighan was at Lios na Grαinsν (Fort of the Grange / Grange Stone Circle) in County Limerick, Ireland. But that's another conversation.

Now it is true that I sometimes work as a guide for the newly deceased, and I feel it's honorable work. It's not my only work and I take care to share only what is appropriate to this forum. I prefer transitioned to "newly deceased", myself.

I am presently recalling a French woman I worked with a number of years ago. I was in the States at the time and our "session" (though I didn't think of it as a session then) took place on Internet chat. So I was doing what I do with eyes wide open and fully present in my body. Part of me still believed it was necessary to do things "the traditional" way, and that is still taught ....

I coached her to follow her state of distress to its anchor point in her body. It was the solar plexus. Her grandfather came to assist and we had a most intriguing interaction. What was it I learned then? I have no need of 3D command of the French language to work with French people in the afterlife territories!

Another "lesson" I took to heart in the same time period when a friend of mine transitioned from his body. He and I are the same age and went to school together, played in band together. He played trumpet, and I played saxophone. Good times.

He died of a heart attack as he slept. I knew there was no need for a retrieval. I thought, though, I'd check in on him.

These were still "early days" for me when I believed I needed to do all this preparation. We know the drill, it's how most of us were taught. So I'm going through all the la-dee-da of afterlife territory preparation when I hear:

"Hurry up! I gotta go!"

and in less time than ... actually it took place in no time I got the entire download. I think Bob Monroe called it a rote, or was it Bruce or both, someone here knows. I call it a download, A thought ball, did someone write? Doesn't matter.

It was as clear as day.

And, my goodness, I forgot until writing this I've been getting those sort of things since as long as I can remember. It was at university — pretty sure back then I had already read Monroe, I read everything 'cause I was an English major.

My best friend was in, shall we call it a life experience knot. Close enough. And her grandfather tossed me one of these thought balls, I got the whole download at once and it was a pan galactic gargle blaster of a download — ""having your brains smashed in by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick".

"What's the matter, looks like you saw a ghost!" my friends remarked. And I was so dazed I couldn't even talk for five minutes.

So yeah, I've been at this for a longer time than my rational mind would have me believe.  Grin
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Reply #28 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 1:31am
 
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  As to retrievals and physical spiders--spiders and animals don't ever need to be retrieved, or rather, very, very rarely so (I could see maybe an abused, former human pet animal perhaps needing retrieval, but not wild animals).  They don't have belief systems. As in physical life they are very instinctual, so to when they cross over.


Interesting topic.  I agree it's probably rare but I do believe some animals may not just automatically move on and go where they need to.  Like in the case of my cat who stayed with us for two months after he died.  He finally left after we thanked him and told him he could move on.  It definitely seemed like it was his choice to stay, and his choice to go.  But I agree, one would assume that animals just naturally move on without having any qualms about it.

I always just imagined that when pets die they are in the afterlife somewhere running around and having a great time and we'll see them again.  So why would my cat have stuck around?  I assumed it was to comfort us, but that contradicts the notion that animals just follow instinct and don't need a little scootch to get them moving.
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Reply #29 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:44am
 
I never gave the matter any thought at all, Vicky. "Do animals and others benefit from transition assistance?" is, in my mind, somewhere well below "which rookie player will the Beijing Rockets recruit as goalie?"

The event transpired as I related it. During a break in work I mentioned the spider exactly as recorded here. I did so on a hunch that when something out-of-the ordinary occurs, it's best to notice. Out-of-ordinary in this case was a spider who I previously conversed with showed up in my field before she transitioned. So I took note and mentioned it.

I totally do not go around doing retrievals / transition guide work for every. single. being. I know what is mine to do.
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