Conversation Board
https://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi
Forums >> Afterlife Knowledge >> Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
https://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1488239856

Message started by Morrighan on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:57pm

Title: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:57pm
Hullo.

Two new posts today, first in seven years. Oh my. Well, hi.

Here to share with you out of general interest to the greater community my most recent engagement as an afterlife guide to one transitioning from the physical to the beyond. It's part of my job, sometimes. I do what is mine to do and know what is mine to do.

My training — long before I encountered TMI and, later, Bruce, is as a practitioner of the Bardo Thodol, known to the West as the Tibetan Book of the Dead but more accurately translated as The Book of Between States.

Well, big deal, there's a world of difference between being a student of it and being a practitioner of it. When you are a practitioner, the first thing to do is throw the book away. It will do you no good at all, and may even damage you and your (client). I hesitate to use the word client, but it will have to do. It's a paid gig, I'm engaged as a professional in the afterlife territories. There is a job to do, I take it seriously.

It is a cool Sunday evening in Co Clare, Ireland, and I receive confirmation of payment, an equitable exchange for services. We'd been at this for the better part of a day, and in fact the work had already started. That's the way it works. I start the job ahead of time, because when I work I'm in No Time. And there are things to do, things to prepare.

Buddhist robes, no. Candles, incense, no. None of that really matters. Don't need no holy book or chanting or gongs.

In any event my client — the about-to-be-freshly-deceased — is in the United States in a hospice unit. He's not a Buddhist. He has no care for book learning. He's about to pass over to the Great Beyond and ....

And this is where I come in. I know it's now, but I am also working in No Time. I hit the hay and Monday morning it all hits at once.

Being the afterlife practitioner carries a lot of responsibility. I can feel this one is very big as I am now present to his field. Even by my experience, I know this is going to be a long, hard day for me.

Now what happens down here in Physical Material Reality (PMR) is dramatic even by my measure as I begin to thread the path into his journey. He's relying on me to do my job.

Physically, I'm moving north to Co Roscommon and this is part of the deal. For I have a very special place — a sacred place — to be. This is the destination and it's by every standard as remarkable as I can do today.

I have been to this place before and it's been calling to me. This is no coincidence.

For there is first the old cottage in the forest. Little remains of the old cottage. The roof is gone. "Ten, maybe twelve people lived here," my host tells me as we survey the ruins. And probably a sheep or two to keep everybody warm.

The new old cottage is still standing. Built in 1913, only a single electric line was linked, and that was only hooked up a scant 10 years ago. The man who lived there lived alone. Nothing has been touched since he passed away. There are religious relics above the fireplace where he burned peat to stay warm. A rosary is on the floor of what was his bedroom.

"He was very close to the Virgin Mary," my host tells me. And that was more than two years ago that I first visited the new old cottage. There's a new, new cottage and this is my destination today as I escort this gentleman across.

For I know that it is time for this man to be healed, and I am journeying with him to this special place of healing. As above, so below.

We complete the journey .... would that I give you details! This is an inner journey ... and an outer journey. And you likely know when we do an afterlife retrieval that the retrieval itself takes, oh, 8 seconds, tops. And retelling what occurred in that retrieval can fill a book chapter!

Probably a book of material just on this one journey for one soul on his transition. But really, there isn't much to tell. And there also is.

Over dinner with my friend I casually tell the story of a humorous afterlife retrieval. And at the same time I am assisting my client, he wants to hear the story too, and he thinks it's hilarious.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 1st, 2017 at 12:14pm
A minor footnote to my OP above, and in reference to another post.

When I joined this board I was known by another name. I changed my name because of a change in my life missions and embodiment. And it came about like this:

It was early in a sacred journey where I met The Morrighan at the Grange Stone Circle in County Limerick. That's not precisely true. She sent one of her envoys to me. I was, at that time, wholly ignorant of The Morrighan. I knew contact had been made on the inner planes.

It was much later up in County Roscommon that I was smacked very hard with a Clue by Four. It was that day The Morrighan made herself clearly known to me. It was another six months for me to integrate the contact. Accepting that was singularly the most difficult decision of my life (to date).

Came as much of a surprise to me as my first contact with Green Tara. "Out of the 3D blackness", as Bruce describes it, and wasn't I surprised. "She's real!" and that was as much a surprise as the event itself.

You (general you) are welcome to google The Morrighan. There is a great deal of wishful thinking and distortion about her. What's important (and, in my experience, true) is her role as one who escorts the newly deceased. Small wonder nobody wants to see her. It means someone is about to die and that doesn't wear well for people who live in 3D.

Buíochas mo chroi orm,
Morrighan Star

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 9th, 2017 at 12:31pm
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by seagull on Mar 9th, 2017 at 9:20pm
But no, not yet. Those are two very interesting characters you brought up here. It is refreshing to understand that those who greet us take on not only familiar aspects from our lives on earth but fantastic characters as well. It is inspiring, because that is just how creative life is.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 10th, 2017 at 2:21pm
My 3D track places me in a cottage in Achill, Ireland, where I continue the work I began.

Achill is an island in County Mayo, and I believe it may be the westernmost point in the country. It is in Achill that I do my most important and productive work. In fact I was headed to Achill when I accepted the work of the afterlife transition I sketched in this thread. I just took numerous detours through Counties Roscommon, Galway, Sligo and Donegal.

It seems like a forever-ago when I met for the very first time in person the woman who introduced me to yoga nidra. That is a meditation where one holds the state exactly between awake and asleep. "You are going to Ireland, and that's an order, and it's not from me," she said.

Thus began that journey that took me through historic Ireland, on to the Italian Alps, and, ultimately, to Achill. Little did I know the relationship I forged with Achill from that cottage on the water's edge.

And it is from there I made my first journey to Acaill Bheag (Little Achill), an island off Achill Island that was abandoned in the 60s. At this moment my fellow travelers from my first visit to Acaill Bheag are assembling for a reunion there in May.

Sláinte!

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 8:33pm
Some transitions to the afterlife are way easier. Humans seem to have a lot of garbage to go through. This one took as long as you see in this transcript from Tuesday. "N" is the human-embodied team member I work with.

***

Me: I keep a brokered peace with spiders in my house. There was a spider who lived by the kitchen sink and seldom showed herself to me once she made herself at home.
Yesterday she came out of hiding briefly and this morning I found she passed on.

N: you can ask her can you speak directly to her and ask

Me: Yes I can speak with her.

N: she can go to Nanyah if she likes

Me: she would like that yes

N: Thank you to her

Me:  and she thanks you in reply
she told me thank you for a comfortable home

N: thank you

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Bruce Moen on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 4:04pm
Off-Topic replies have been moved to this Topic.

The personal attack in the post removed has resulting banning of the one who posted it.  Warning was given to everyone that these  personal attacks violate the Posting Guidelines and would lead to banning if they continued.  They did and they have.

The Admin

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 24th, 2017 at 11:13pm
  Morrighan, it's interesting that you mentioned spiders here. Reason being is that two of the only times that I have seen, in a viscerally, very physical way, nonphysical consciousnesses, was two separate times when I've seen what appeared as large, nonphysical spiders (both were all black). 

Both times I felt the distinct feeling of being both spied on, and a negative/lacking in Love intent/energy behind the spying. My spouse also had a very similar experience a couple of times. In one of her experiences, the spider was red and black (these are slow vibrational colors--if you met a person with a red and black aura emanation, they wouldn't be too pleasant to be around to put it mildly--they would be psychopathic). 

  We were not literally seeing non physical spiders in an etheric state, but rather, my conscious, interpretive mind was translating whatever I was perceiving nonphysically, as being like spiders.  In this case, the metaphor of cold, calculating, purely predatory creatures related. Also, spiders appear as clever in the sense that they spin hard to see webs to catch their prey. 

   I'm still not a hundred % sure what I was really perceiving.  I've narrowed it down to either a negative ET group and/or trained remote viewers/psychics that work for the international shadow government.  While the CIA claims these kind of programs were shut down in 1995, it's possible that they were started up either under black ops umbrella or privatized in the corporate sector which is connected with the government.  At The Monroe Institute, I got a guidance message about a former Stargate remote viewer and how he still worked for corrupt forces. 

  To be honest, I haven't thought much about these experiences in awhile. Whatever was actually spying on us, I'm not too concerned about one way or another.  We're protected by the Light.  There is nothing more powerful than the collective Light.   

  The lacking in Light beings, both human and non human, that are involved in the hindering of this world's movement towards Love, have their day coming. As they say, karma is a female dog.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 24th, 2017 at 11:36pm
Gaia's children include spiders!

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:04am
  Sure, and I don't really have anything against physical spiders--I regularly re-transplant them outside when I find them inside because once in a while we've gotten bites. However, due to their nature, they are a good metaphor for the consciousnesses that were spying on us on different occasions. 

  Turns out, I'm not the only one whom has seen these spiders. 

Apparently, they are somewhat commonly seen among recovering alcoholics and drug addicts whom have some sensitivity.  Found that out somewhat recently.  This would tend to preclude the shadow government interpretation and more just support general negative nonphysical and/or ET origins. 

  Why?  Because when people become involved in addiction to alcohol and drugs, often they open themselves up more than normal/average, to negative nonphysical and/or ET influences.  Many start to get more and more influenced by these. 

  It's a very hard cycle to break, not only because of the physical body addiction part, but because of these whispering voices and influences that constantly urge one to these self destructive, imbalancing activities. 

  When a person tries to get clean, and even after they get clean, often some of the above, will redouble their efforts in getting a foothold back in influencing the person.  Hence, the people may become aware of perceiving these negative beings, and commonly, for some reason, they are interpreted as "spiders". 

  Unless of course, you're going to try to convince me that the nonphysical consciousnesses that the spider metaphor represent symbolically, are actually positive beings.  Down is up, black is white, dark is light, etc with some folks it seems.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:17am
While not everything in this universe is predisposed to humans, neither are humans predisposed to all other life forms.

The good / evil binary is not a useful judgment for me in the course of my work.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:45am
    Oh I know, you're so far above same in your mind.   Btw, I don't refer to it as good and evil.

But there is most definitely relative constructive/non constructive on a spectrum of degrees. 

  It's all actually about degrees of Love, or degrees of attunement to or lack of attunement to pure Love Consciousness. 

  Love is the alpha and omega, the very foundation of consciousness. We were created in, have our being in, and move around in a field of Love. There never was a time when we existed when Love was naught.   

When an individuated consciousness uses their freewill and moves away from pure Love, the degree in which they do so, becomes the degree of constructiveness or non constructiveness they attune to and express. 

  As there is no objective cold in physics, there is no objective negative/evil/bad spiritually.  There is only lack of Love/good/positive, etc. Heat energy in physics, is like Love in metaphysics.

  These are things that you would understand and perceive clearly, if you made a habit of communicating only with the Source/Co-Creator level of consciousness i.e. the most expanded and the original level.   

  You're perceiving/reasoning from a fundamentally flawed/stuck/erroneous paradigm, while trying to dress it up as some kind of transcendent, higher truth.

 


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:54am
I've not the vaguest idea how this became an argument?

A transition to the "afterlife" is not really a big deal to me. Pretty basic work, in my experience.

"Tiger got to hunt,
Bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder, "Why, why, why?"

Tiger got to sleep,
Bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand."

— The Books of Bokonon

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 25th, 2017 at 1:13am
  Is it an argument? 

   You and I know what it truly is and isn't. I'll just say, some of us aren't fooled. 
 

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 10:05am
Hello.

Executive summary follows.

What I share here are my own experiences. If my experiences do not tally with books you know (general you - my use of "you" refers to "all you"), it is because I literally threw all my books away. I share my experiences with you here in the knowledge of your skill sets and your interest in the afterlife territories, and beyond.

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.



  • In my experience, there is very little difference between performing an afterlife retrieval and serving as a transition guide. If you can do one, you can do the other.

  • Some humans need more time to transition than others. Some know exactly where to go and what to expect. Sometimes they can show their transition guide something new. You don't know until you're doing it.

  • In my experience, transitions / retrievals may require very little time in 3D terms.

  • If you engage in this work, you will know what to do when it is time to do so.

  • Be kind.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Recoverer 2 on Mar 25th, 2017 at 11:09am
Morrighan:

It seems as if a person can't express a differing viewpoint without you calling it an argument.

Regarding spiders, there have been occasions when I saw negative beings appear as spiders. I'm not certain why they appear this way. It could be that my guidance was letting me know that an unfriendly being is around and used a spider image as a symbolic representation. Such spiders would have a creepy feeling that differs from what I sense from physical spiders.

It is possible for existence to manifest in a way that seems evil. I've felt this evil on more than one occasion. Plus destructive intent is destructive intent. I don't mean to state that evil beings were innately evil. Going by the information I received there are beings that started out as divine and then for whatever reason they became evil.

On the other hand, I figure that there is no source other than God and the Oneness we are all a part of. Therefore, even evil comes from source. It is a possibility that exists within us/God. In order to know ourselves we need to know about the possibility of evil. We can decide if it is something we want to hang onto. It provides some degree of contrast. Therefore, in a way, both Justin and Morrighan are correct about evil.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm
If you all would rather discuss whether spiders are aligned with love/light instead of afterlife transitions, knock yourselves out. <3

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by seagull on Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:48pm
I had a spider appear upon my person when I was getting into my car one morning recently. I noticed it drop down to the floor and it was too late to retrieve it and carry it outside. I had no other choice except to let it find its own way in the universe which is my car. I hope it had a good ride. I have not seen it since.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:57pm
How do you feel?


wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
I had a spider appear upon my person when I was getting into my car one morning recently. I noticed it drop down to the floor and it was too late to retrieve it and carry it outside. I had no other choice except to let it find its own way in the universe which is my car. I hope it had a good ride. I have not seen it since.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by seagull on Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:58pm
I feel ridiculous. Like I'm in love with a spider. But, then, I love feeling ridiculous.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 4:15pm
Perfect! That's all there is to it. Love = WIN.





wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
I feel ridiculous. Like I'm in love with a spider. But, then, I love feeling ridiculous.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:25pm

Morrighan wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
If you all would rather discuss whether spiders are aligned with love/light instead of afterlife transitions, knock yourselves out. <3


  You talking abut spiders just reminded me of some unusual experiences relating to perception of nonphysical reality. 

  As to retrievals and physical spiders--spiders and animals don't ever need to be retrieved, or rather, very, very rarely so (I could see maybe an abused, former human pet animal perhaps needing retrieval, but not wild animals).  They don't have belief systems. As in physical life they are very instinctual, so to when they cross over.

Retrieval is about humans, and some other self aware, intelligent (in an intellectual and intuitive, self directed, rationale sense), self conscious Souls that connect to forms that allow expression of that in what we call physical reality. So what's up with all the yarn, or should I say, spider silk spinning?   

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:43pm
Our human bodies are animals too!

I know a number of non-human animals who have contrary views regarding their own self-awareness.

If a being is in my field and I see there is something to be done, I do it because it is mine to do.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by seagull on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:57pm
I love having direct experience. That hand symbol has a great meaning for me and I say, yes, you have a real talent, Morrighan. Appreciation sent your way.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 25th, 2017 at 10:27pm
   In a manner of speaking, Albert and I are involved in the retrieving of spiders.  Just not the former physical ones. 

   Souls who have cut themselves off from the Light. I've had dreams of retrieving in some rather difficult and dark places. These places reminded me of the "Hells" that Bruce spoke of in his books. To be honest, because of the nature of these places, I don't want to be particularly conscious of or focused on this retrieval work in my day to day human life--I've got enough on my plate to begin with.

  Albert has spoken some of his retrieval work here. Some of the individuals he has facilitated awakening within through his connection to Light, were fairly negative in disposition. 

So yes, I guess we can agree on the "retrieving of spiders" in a manner of speaking.

And we all have intuition.  There are many psychics out there whom are not particularly spiritually mature.  As the physicist Russell Targ talks about in a Ted Talk talking about remote viewing, etc, psychism doesn't require spiritual growth or maturity to work--they're just other senses. And yet, attunement to Love expands and clarifies perception more than anything.

   In any case, I think I'm going to start following Rondele's earlier advice and Bruce's general advice*.

* * Sentence removed due to Posting Guidelines violation.  It's not funny to everyone, Justin.  And you know better.  Knock it off. Last warning.
The Admin * *







  *seeing it not there. 
 

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Bruce Moen on Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:38am
Off-Topic replies have been moved to this Topic.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by 2bets on Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:59am
Funny Coincidences -- yesterday morning as I was leaving a staid government agency, a woman coming in nodded hello. She was black and wore a floor length black dress and scarf, both of which had large brown printed scallops, sort of feather- or petal- like.

Then in the evening I come here and meet Morrighan. I looked up the term and need to read more but at one time the Morrighan was also The Dark Goddess who could take the form of a raven. The woman I saw earlier seemed to sort of herald these posts by Morrighan.

That's all an aside though to re-greeting and congratulating Morrighan, who was here in the past and then he wasn't.

It seems that he has accomplished what we all, who have gone through the initial life-changing experiences of retrieving, could try harder to do.  He has moved more fully into the spiritual realms through intuition and symbolism and found a way to help/retrieve others who are not as adept. It seems like he's moved into a wholeness that most of us are just sampling.

Congratulations, Morrighan! I'm very happy for you!

2bets

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:54am
I'm still here, 2bets  ::) (And last I checked, definitely female!)

Some of my understanding of The Morrighan is she escorts the newly deceased to the afterlife territories. She's also noted for her cooking .... The Morrighan is widely feared because when she shows up it means someone is going to die. My first encounter with The Morrighan was at Lios na Gráinsí (Fort of the Grange / Grange Stone Circle) in County Limerick, Ireland. But that's another conversation.

Now it is true that I sometimes work as a guide for the newly deceased, and I feel it's honorable work. It's not my only work and I take care to share only what is appropriate to this forum. I prefer transitioned to "newly deceased", myself.

I am presently recalling a French woman I worked with a number of years ago. I was in the States at the time and our "session" (though I didn't think of it as a session then) took place on Internet chat. So I was doing what I do with eyes wide open and fully present in my body. Part of me still believed it was necessary to do things "the traditional" way, and that is still taught ....

I coached her to follow her state of distress to its anchor point in her body. It was the solar plexus. Her grandfather came to assist and we had a most intriguing interaction. What was it I learned then? I have no need of 3D command of the French language to work with French people in the afterlife territories!

Another "lesson" I took to heart in the same time period when a friend of mine transitioned from his body. He and I are the same age and went to school together, played in band together. He played trumpet, and I played saxophone. Good times.

He died of a heart attack as he slept. I knew there was no need for a retrieval. I thought, though, I'd check in on him.

These were still "early days" for me when I believed I needed to do all this preparation. We know the drill, it's how most of us were taught. So I'm going through all the la-dee-da of afterlife territory preparation when I hear:

"Hurry up! I gotta go!"

and in less time than ... actually it took place in no time I got the entire download. I think Bob Monroe called it a rote, or was it Bruce or both, someone here knows. I call it a download, A thought ball, did someone write? Doesn't matter.

It was as clear as day.

And, my goodness, I forgot until writing this I've been getting those sort of things since as long as I can remember. It was at university — pretty sure back then I had already read Monroe, I read everything 'cause I was an English major.

My best friend was in, shall we call it a life experience knot. Close enough. And her grandfather tossed me one of these thought balls, I got the whole download at once and it was a pan galactic gargle blaster of a download — ""having your brains smashed in by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick".

"What's the matter, looks like you saw a ghost!" my friends remarked. And I was so dazed I couldn't even talk for five minutes.

So yeah, I've been at this for a longer time than my rational mind would have me believe.  ;D

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Vicky on Mar 30th, 2017 at 1:31am

wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
  As to retrievals and physical spiders--spiders and animals don't ever need to be retrieved, or rather, very, very rarely so (I could see maybe an abused, former human pet animal perhaps needing retrieval, but not wild animals).  They don't have belief systems. As in physical life they are very instinctual, so to when they cross over.


Interesting topic.  I agree it's probably rare but I do believe some animals may not just automatically move on and go where they need to.  Like in the case of my cat who stayed with us for two months after he died.  He finally left after we thanked him and told him he could move on.  It definitely seemed like it was his choice to stay, and his choice to go.  But I agree, one would assume that animals just naturally move on without having any qualms about it.

I always just imagined that when pets die they are in the afterlife somewhere running around and having a great time and we'll see them again.  So why would my cat have stuck around?  I assumed it was to comfort us, but that contradicts the notion that animals just follow instinct and don't need a little scootch to get them moving. 

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:44am
I never gave the matter any thought at all, Vicky. "Do animals and others benefit from transition assistance?" is, in my mind, somewhere well below "which rookie player will the Beijing Rockets recruit as goalie?"

The event transpired as I related it. During a break in work I mentioned the spider exactly as recorded here. I did so on a hunch that when something out-of-the ordinary occurs, it's best to notice. Out-of-ordinary in this case was a spider who I previously conversed with showed up in my field before she transitioned. So I took note and mentioned it.

I totally do not go around doing retrievals / transition guide work for every. single. being. I know what is mine to do.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Vicky on Mar 30th, 2017 at 10:49am

Morrighan wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:44am:
I never gave the matter any thought at all, Vicky. "Do animals and others benefit from transition assistance?" is, in my mind, somewhere well below "which rookie player will the Beijing Rockets recruit as goalie?"

The event transpired as I related it. During a break in work I mentioned the spider exactly as recorded here. I did so on a hunch that when something out-of-the ordinary occurs, it's best to notice. Out-of-ordinary in this case was a spider who I previously conversed with showed up in my field before she transitioned. So I took note and mentioned it.

I totally do not go around doing retrievals / transition guide work for every. single. being. I know what is mine to do.


I don't think I saw your story of the spider so I'm not familiar with it. 

Like I said, I wouldn't think animals often need assistance, but in a couple personal experiences I got to see first hand how it's possible for animals to react after their death.  It's my natural response/reaction when something dies, even a bug, I have the thought/feeling that "it is a living thing and that it will naturally be in a better place now."   I guess it's my way of not feeling so bad when I have to kill a bug, like those annoying tiny gnats that live in plants...once in a while I'll see one at work and I have no problem killing them because they drive me nuts, but at the same time I still believe they too move on into the afterlife.   ;)

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Mar 30th, 2017 at 10:58am
That's the old "you're going to the spirit world now" that we might reserve for mosquitoes. "Spider story" is on Page 1. I know a jeweler in Italy named Spider (Ragno). Last I saw him he holds no immediate plans to transition out of his body! Glad for that, he makes beautiful creations. I'm certain to send a ring to him soon for an upgrade.

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Mar 30th, 2017 at 6:09pm
  Tis an interesting topic Vicky.  The way I look at pets, like your example above, is similar to how I look at humans in this sense.  It's not uncommon for people who die, to hang around for a little while--mostly because of attachment to loved ones, wanting to comfort them, give them messages and/or because people's intense grief holds them here. 

  In these cases, they are quite aware that they have died. It's more of a "lingering" rather than being out and out stuck in the classic sense that we usually talk about. That lingering can last anywhwere from days to months.  Usually in cases of "classic stuckness", a person isn't fully consciously aware/accepting that they are in fact dead, or their religious beliefs are so strong as to keep them very limited even if they suspect they are not physical anymore. 

   While animal bodies are pretty limited in certain, perceptual ways, I believe the the Souls that imbue animals can be significantly more aware and intelligent that what their bodies allowed them to express or experience while in physical (their bodies are more "simple programs" than ours).  I do believe pet animals like dogs, cats, etc can very much love us.  So there may be some of that "lingering" like with what happens with Souls that incarnate in human bodies.

  In any case, we were addressing "wild animals", more specifically in this case, spiders. Such energy forms are very instinctual both in physical life and nonphysically. 

   Some interesting points about retrieval and stuckness in general.  In a very real sense, any Soul and Disk whom is not yet fully conscious of their Oneness with Source and the Whole, is technically "stuck" and in process of retrieval.  Course, this will vary to many different relative degrees. The stuckness and retrieval we talk most about here, is related to the degree of suffering that an individual experiences.

  The more stuck, the more suffering one tends to experience. There are mature guide/helpers whom are not yet fully conscious of their Oneness with Source and the Whole and thus are very slightly technically stuck, BUT they don't really suffer that much.  They usually just have a deep and strong longing for home. 

  Such was the feeling that Bob Monroe sometimes experienced, though at first he connected it with his home energy system.  Turns out, what he really longed for on that deep Soul level, was his Home of homes--complete conscious Oneness with Source and the Whole. 

    The Souls whom are in the nonphysical hells connected to the Earth Life System, are more stuck than those whom are like "ghosts". In turn, those in the hollow heavens are less stuck than the ghosts, and those in the "summerland" are less stuck than the hollow heaven'ers, and the new guides/guides in training are less stuck than these, the more mature/long time guides are less stuck than these. 

   It ALL has to do with one's unique, usually (but not always) slowly changing, relative but consistent/average attunement to what Bruce refers to as PUL. Pure, constant attunement to PUL = complete freedom and full awareness = no stuckness.  The less clear and strong the connection, the more limited, stuck one becomes and the more suffering one experiences. 

   I did not get any of this from Bruce or his work--just my own intuition and connection to guidance. 

   

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Vicky on Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:10pm

wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
 
   While animal bodies are pretty limited in certain, perceptual ways, I believe the the Souls that imbue animals can be significantly more aware and intelligent that what their bodies allowed them to express or experience while in physical (their bodies are more "simple programs" than ours).  I do believe pet animals like dogs, cats, etc can very much love us.  So there may be some of that "lingering" like with what happens with Souls that incarnate in human bodies.
   


Hi Justin,

I really like what you've said here because I agree!  In 1992 I think it was, I got a kitten who was very special to me.  I may have told the long version of this story before  ::).  But long story short, I could feel his spirit for a couple months before I found him.  It was THAT strong of a connection.  The feeling of his energy was that of a very dear old friend.  He only lived about 12 years but that connection was very strong the entire time, and even though he was "just a cat" I felt that his soul was so much more than that, and I always wondered why he came into my life in the form of a cat.  Why not a human?  It was an extremely deep, loving connection that even now makes me cry just thinking about what it feels like to not be experiencing it anymore.  I just miss him and miss his energy.  Sure wish I could just clearly know and understand the why of such a connection.  But I'm sure I'll see him again in the afterlife. 


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Recoverer 2 on Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:32pm
I had two cats that died in the 1980s. Within the past 10 years I've had several inbetween state experiences where one of these cats was lying in bed with me, and I shared love with it in a very affectionate way (I don't mean anything funny by that).

I cared dearly for these cats and really looked out for their welfare when they were in this world. Perhaps in some way, whatever their state happens to be now, they were showing me appreciation.

This is sort of different, I think this was a message, I had a lucid dream and one of the above cats was in it. Her name was "Lila" which means "God's play."  I had the thought that perhaps the creative aspect of being doesn't matter, only pure awareness does, and Lila became angry with me, stood on her hind legs, and threw a pillow at me. I think I was being told to not sell short the creative aspect of God's, Source's being.

I believe that animal pets are good at sharing unconditional love. It is a shame when people mistreat them.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Recoverer 2 on Apr 5th, 2017 at 6:43pm
I'd like to add to the story of Lila.

When I got her she lived in a house that was owned by a lady that had more than 20 dogs and cats. In order to be kept away from them she was kept in a bathroom. When I received her she was very afraid and would hide under a shelf in the garage. A couple of times each day I would walk into the garage to feed her and I would speak to her gently.  Eventually she reached the point where she would walk up the steps that led to where the kitchen was in order to see about her meal, and then run down the steps when I came with her food. Eventually she would enter the kitchen to eat. Eventually she would hang out in the house. Eventually, reluctantly, she would allow me to pet her. Eventually, she would come to me to be petted.

There were times I would sit in the living room and listen to music. Every time I played the below song she would enter the room. I didn't notice her do the same for other songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm977UhnPwE


P.S. I need to add that there was a lady who lived in the house that also loved Lila and she would also show her love and helped her overcome her fear.


Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Justin on Apr 5th, 2017 at 11:30pm
  Vicky and Recoverer, I really enjoyed reading what you wrote--truly heart warming. 

  I have a strong connection to my cat's Soul--not sure exactly what it is or about.  For awhile we had two cats, the other one died unexpectedly about a year ago.  The other cat definitely had a stronger connection to my spouse. She had had a lucid dream about seeing our other cat's past lives as other, wild, big cats.  And like my spouse, she was more grounded and earthy. 

   Our current cat, seems more ethereal in nature. Hard to explain, but she feels less primal and grounded than the cat that died. Like she is not coming from wild past lives. Sometimes I wonder if she was a pet dog before, as she sometimes acts a bit like a dog in some ways.

  Anyways, the odd thing is that one time, my spouse had a dream where she saw me with the other cat who has since died (this was before she died unexpectedly), and her with our current cat who is more connected to me. Seems to be one of the many messages that she has received about me dying first, since I was with our cat that ended up dying. 

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm
Hi

I'm baaaack .... LOL

Aren't human so cute when they tell me how spiritually evolved they are!  :D

One of the deepest and most profound conversations I ever had was with a porcupine. The wild sort, in the wild. Was in a forest clearing at night and the entire encounter completed in moments. What transpired? Several lifetimes of wisdom exchanged.

Coolest. Porcupine. Ever. (And the porcupine did not ask for transition assistance, BTW.)

Title: Re: Retriever Plus: escorting those in transition
Post by Morrighan on Apr 7th, 2017 at 10:40am
We are all Gaia's children and nothing helps to talk with our brothers and sisters as much as unconditional embodiment here and now, in my experience.

Uluru (Ayers Rock) has much to share if one wishes to talk about the space where anything is possible. Our teams happen to call that space where anything is possible the Mirror Matrix. Do as you wish.  :-X

Conversation Board » Powered by YaBB 2.4!
YaBB © 2000-2009. All Rights Reserved.