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If you have a complaint that someone is violating the rules use the Posting Guideline Violation Form at the bottom of page of these Forums.  If you don't report it, it will NOT come to the attention of the forum moderator.

Bruce

  Chrwe, i can understand the sentiment.  A thought though--if most of the more positive minded and acting people leave, then the forum will probably descend into a more limited and stuck state and/or become over clique'y.   


   Btw Bruce, i don't understand why my post was erased.  All i said was what the binary message stated.  My post was pretty neutral, except for quoting "Grant".

I've been away from computers for about 5 days, so I don't know if I missed anything, but "numerous violations?" 1796, Alan and Rondelle make rude and disrespectful comments towards others for weeks without getting banned, and then Justin gets banned? I don't get it.

Whatever the case, I suppose it is time for me to also leave this forum.

Goodbye everybody. I wish you the best.

Albert



Bruce Moen wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 6:51pm:

recoverer wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 4:51pm:


Justin got banned for reasons private to our Owner/Administrator/Moderator of this forum, Bruce Moen.

Recoverer left because Justin got banned. As typical with Recoverer, he had to mention in his final post, that Alan, 1796, and Rondele should have been banned also!?

Is this the views of somebody, Rcovererer(Albert Haust the Third)who has two Spiritual books on Amazon, who writes about his so called advanced spirituality and tolerance, that he does not practice himself in our real physical reality and attitude towards others.    









 

1796,

See that is exactly what I am talking about.  You disparage me personally, deliberately, with a sarcastic name, rather than state your case.

If your point is that you believe no one should be banned unless their venom is threatening physical harm to someone, then I respectfully disagree. 

If a person says personal attacks which are mean spirited, rather than just express their ideas, they don't belong on a civilized forum, period.  If they do it once or twice but then realize the harm they caused and apologize (cease to do it) then most reasonable folk would welcome them back to the discussion. 

If you want to have the freedom to call people derogatory names and say "C'mon, you can take it, it is all in good fun," most would disagree here.  So why continue to do so?

M

1796 has been banned for numerous Posting Guidelines violations.  I you see 1796 posting again under the same or a different username please report it using the Violation form at the bottom of any Forum page.

Thanks,

Bruce

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            I have no desire to rejoin this forum at this point, however, i do want to state some things in this one last post.  Bruce says that i was banned for multiple posting violations.  It is true that of late, i have spoken to some here strongly and in a personal way, but the larger context is missing.  I've experienced numerous posters personally attack me on multiple recent occasions.  Sometimes, i remained silent and ignored them, but other times i spoke strongly in return.  As previously mentioned, growing up, i had a lot of experience with folks that thought it was alright to bully others, and i experienced some of this every year from K-12.  I learned the hard way, that you cannot always walk away from these types, that sometimes you have to stand up to them, stand firm, and speak and/or act strongly.  I say i learned this the hard way, because i came in an introverted, peace loving, people pleaser type (Libra Moon, Pisces S. Node in the 7th, Aqua Venus in 7th exactly sextile Neptune in the 7th and opposed Asc, etc).  The first psychic reading i ever had, around age 18, was with an old Greek-American lady, a grandmother, and i will never forget what she said, and which she said strongly, "You take too much 'crap' (she used the other, swear word) from people!  Why do you take so much 'crap' from people?  You shouldn't take so much "crap" from people."

        One poster, 1796, recently labeled me a psychopath.  It was this kind of extreme demonization and viciousness that i was responding to and why i have spoken strongly. So for defending self, others, and this forum, i get banned?  Some folks with delicate sensibilities, who haven't experienced what i have and was experiencing, couldn't take it i guess?.  Perhaps if it was directed at them, they would feel differently?  Unlike you, i do not have the power to ban them or erase their posts, but i could stand up to them verbally. 
    I ask you Bruce, and those with delicate sensibilities, what did the Master and personification of PUL, Jesus, do?   He was often viciously attacked by others for speaking truth.  Did he always just take it and ignore it?  Or, did he occasionally speak strongly and firmly stand his ground with these?   From my reading of the NT, he did occasionally speak quite strongly to those who initiated attacks on him or others.
    Other posters have been a bit more subtle all in all.  One such poster, Rondele, has it in for your forum/work Bruce.  He has subtly and manipulatively tried to call into question your work, your intent, your purpose.  He calls exploring the afterlife a "fool's errand".  I have caught him in these subtle and indirect attacks, and have called him out on it, because while you and i do have some differences of opinion and of personal style (your style is more like Bob's and mine is more like my Teachers), all in all, i believe in you and your work, and besides being personally attacked by said poster, i have stood up to him also because i see through his hidden reason for being here--and it's not friendly to you, your work, or the purpose of this forum.   But because he is subtle, usually indirect, and clever, most haven't seen this. It takes deeper observation and intuition.

   Many years ago, you put me on temporary suspension. While at the time i was bothered by that, looking back, i realized i both deserved and needed it. I was very uncentered at the time because of a lot of outside stress and challenge all hitting me at once.  What you did then was just and constructive, and i'm appreciative for it. 

   But i am not uncentered now, and what you did was neither just nor constructive, and i'm not sure why you did so?

   Goodbye,
  Justin