I don't know one way or the other Albert about us little probes/characters of our Disk/Light Being. 

  But i definitely don't think the Light Being loses the sense of individuality no matter how much it consciously remerges or unites with Source and the Whole. 

  But yes, i do think that we as an aspect, while the physical etc is going on, can re unite or merge with Source even if our entire Disk hasn't fully integrated itself. 

  Maybe once a particular probe/aspect of a Disk awakens to Christ Consciousness within in connection with the physical, then that is a big step in the Disk's evolution as well?   

   A sense of self and the concept of separation i think are two different ideas/concepts.

   Most of the outer sources that i've come across that my intuition has told me was very expanded, more correct than not, and from the more universal and purely creative levels, all say the say thing about our destiny (my guidance has also confirmed this for me the following). 

  That the gift from The Source, and the Co-Creator Consciousness (which Bruce labels the Planning Intelligence), is that of knowing self to be an individual, yet fully One with the Whole at the same time.

  To understand the deep importance of this, you have to go back to the very beginnings of Consciousness. 

  At one point, Consciousness was One Being or point of reference unto itself. 

  It was very dissatisfied with this original state of being, and so it changed within itself.  That change was the creation of individualized, free willed parts of itself, yet while the original Consciousness or point of reference was also still there as an entity and level unto itself.  So, it both changed and yet remained the same.  There was no "physical" at this point.  Much, much earlier.

  On a human like level, you could say that The Source or original Consciousness was intensely and indescribably lonely.  It ached for both companionship and to creatively express itself. 

    Why, if original Consciousness, and The Source was dissatisfied with this state, would it want to go back to it? 

   My very deep sense of this, is that it never wants to go back to being just one being alone unto itself--hence there will always exist the Whole and the Oneness, but also the many parts that make up the whole of same. 

  As Albert has said, this is not something you can figure out with our intellect, but something you have to feel. 

   Sometimes what happens when people experience the Oneness and The Whole, it's so different and foreign to their conscious minds because all their life they have attuned to a very separative consciousness, that when they come across the other side of the truth, they extrapolate that it's the whole truth. 

Also because awareness of Oneness and connection feels so good.  Love feels good, but there is no Love and sharing of same without the reality and existence of the many, of the parts, of individuals in some form or manner. 

  It's interesting to note again about the Yin-Yang aspects of Consciousness.

  Yin relates to Oneness.  Yang relates to Individuality. They are both equally and simultaneously important and real and true. 

It is limiting to put one above the other.  Sometimes here, because there is a very strong separative collective consciousness, it is helpful to temporarily stress Oneness, but it can be taken too far, even here, and again oft times it relates to our own inner imbalance of the Yin Yang within. 

   Those overly Yin attuned, or temporarily in a strong Yin phase, will overdo, over stress the Oneness side of reality, and vice versa with the Yang people will over stress and over do the Individuality side of reality and truth. 

  (and again, inner Yin and Yang attunement is not always directly related to the gender of one's body.  Some men are more Yin imbalanced and some women are Yang imbalanced.  What's rare is for individuals of either sex to have a more consistent balance and integration of both.  It's a hallmark or indication of a very mature consciousness and there just aren't that many very mature consciousnesses in the Earth).

  At one point, i went through a very strong Yin phase.  It's interesting to note that the Planet Neptune was extremely highlighted in my transit astro chart at the time (transiting Neptune was conjuncting my Sun, which is also the ruler of my chart).  During this cycle, i thought a lot about Oneness.  I started to read some sources which said that the ultimate goal was to lose a sense of self and become the Oneness.  That any and all sense of self was an "illusion". 

I bought into this for a little while when i was in this very strong Yin phase.  Thankfully, i remained open enough to inner guidance and was shown that i was missing the mark some, and that a sense of self and individuality was an eternal process.  Will our sense of self and individuality be as strong and as distinct later, as it is when we are human, no course not, but it will still basically be there. 

  Later, i had sort of a ROTE download that has many similarities to Bruce's exploration of the Planning Intelligence and what he perceived about the beginning.  When i first read Bruce's Voyage to Curiousity's Father, i was a bit blown away because the amount of similarity.

Apparently, Justin (a channel) and I wrote our last posts at about the same time.

Justin said: "On a human like level, you could say that The Source or original Consciousness was intensely and indescribably lonely.  It ached for both companionship and to creatively express itself. 

    Why, if original Consciousness, and The Source was dissatisfied with this state, would it want to go back to it? 

   My very deep sense of this, is that it never wants to go back to being just one being alone unto itself--hence there will always exist the Whole and the Oneness, but also the many parts that make up the whole of same."

I came to basically the same conclusiong a while back. About a month or two ago I tried reading CWG again and when it spoke about why God created us, it didn't speak about the loneliness factor. I thought and felt that it was a factor and I don't remember how precisely, but it seemed that I received a confirmation from my spirit guidance that the the loneliness factor is true.

I stopped reading CWG after reading the part where  God supposedly says that there is no such thing as coincidences, accidents and mistakes. Everyting is planned. I do believe that synchronicities exist and some things are planned, but this doesn't mean there is no such thing as coincidences, accidents and mistakes.

Why can't coincidences, accidents and mistakes be a part of this universe?

Albert,

My understanding of things is that we don't lose our individuality.  Upon death, the ego drops away - which was a false construct that we created which supported us in the physical world.  What is left is our light-being self, which is our true self.  This light-being is part of Source/God and yet unique in and of itself. 

The ego and the practical mindset in most of us, set us apart from the light-being self (due to Maya or illusion), and are the biggest hindrance to enlightenment while we are in a physical body.  Part of me, Matthew or you, Albert fears a loss of identity associated with the light-being state.  This is simply our egos, struggling to say "wait, no I'm the real Albert/Matthew" - which they have been doing our entire lives. 

According to Nanci Danison and others, the light-being us is the "real" person.  And when we willingly let go of our earthly egos (our outer armor), we understand who we always have been.  Some of our light-being selves feel shame at that point, looking at their life review and seeing how the earthly ego polarized their thinking and led them away from Source and acting in a loving way. 

Albert, I find nothing written or discussed to suggest that being our light-being self would lose its identity with or without merging with Source.  But the need for the illusion of separation will determine if we merge spiritually with other light-beings and Source, or if we try to continue to express ourselves in an earth-life system where we are cut off from Source.

Kathy,

I understand your take on reincarnation, but I think of it all is a grand illusion.  Separation, a feeling caused by the development of ego and the triumph of the thinking mind over the Now or "Being" (as Tolle wrote) causes most of the drama, pain and suffering in the Earth-Life system. 

When we meditate, and live in the Now, and connect with Source -even for a moment - we find a calmness, which dissolves the ego (even while we are still alive).  The light-being Kathy is your true self.  The ego outer layer Kathy is tied to your sense of survival, but is destined to fade away.  Most past lives relate to the historical egos tied to the personality of the light-being.  So in that sense, I don't believe in exploring past lives since they are ego matter that matters not.  Jeez, I hope that made sense. 

I will be the first to admit that I have an intellectual bias against reincarnation.  That being said, I do try to be open minded about the possibilities.  The Tibetan Book of the Dead teaches that shortly after death, very early on we are given a one on one with "the light" of God.  If we are free of ego, and in a light-being stage, we go into the light.  If we are still attached to our outer earthly egos, we turn away from the bliss of the light, and begin and inevitable spiral which ends in unconsciousness and rebirth on earth.  This to me sounds frightening.  The idea of following ego and being tied to the wheel of karma is not the fate any being aware of God would seemingly want. 

So, maybe we all have had thousands of incarnations like Nanci, but I would hope that there is more choice in the matter.  On the one hand, people like Newton and others believe we choose earth lives with a council of elders.  On the other hand, the Tibetan Book of the Dead and some buddhists believe that if we don't shed the ego self, we are bound to reincarnate unconsciously until we do. 

M

Just finished Bruce's third book. I noted him writing about taking off the sexual glasses, about preconceived notions and melding with females. Also read about encounters with Bob Monroe.

http://goo.gl/iDsw5g - there's an interesting part at the end of this clip, saying what he (the totality) wanted to do at some point was to "not prostrate ourselves at the foot" of our maker. What a beautiful designer he is. She. He/she. One of seemingly endless options, You can be a maker yourself if You want to, what You learn here are the basic tools.

That would amount to a lot of makers and a lot of worshipping by the ones who choose to go into these games? I get Monroe's part about not prostrating. Also, no rush to merge with source/allness/everything?

Justin,

I do agree with your take on things, but isn't it frustrating not to know........(vis-a-vis) reincarnation and planning.

Kathy,

The problem I am having now, is going over Tolle's book, and other takes on consciousness such as buddhism or zen, there are some out there who don't believe there is a grand plan or meaning - only love.  They see the human mind and ego together as a monstrosity which deceives us from our true nature - that of Source.  Their take on our true nature is antithetical to the current common civilization.  This is what is troubling me of late.  But perhaps such troubles are the only way I can break through or understand?

Doc said: "Albert, I find nothing written or discussed to suggest that being our light-being self would lose its identity with or without merging with Source.  But the need for the illusion of separation will determine if we merge spiritually with other light-beings and Source, or if we try to continue to express ourselves in an earth-life system where we are cut off from Source."

Recoverer responds: "By "nothing written or discussed" I don't know if you mean this thread, Nanci Danison, or sources as a whole.

Whatever the case, there are sources that speak as if Souls aren't eternal and are nothing more than illusions (e.g., a bunch of non-dual gurus and some Buddhists).

As you know I have an internet site and I wrote a couple of books.  Some people have emailed me saying that they were enjoying their spirituality until they came accross teachings that say there is no such thing as an eternal self. This freaked them out and they went from being happy about their spirituality to being depressed. Then somehow they found my site and became very relieved to find what I have to say about the supposed no eternal self business.

I wrote the above in order to point out that this no-self business is a problem that has been created by gurus and such who claim to be more enlightened than they are.

An example, I believe it is possible that Eckart Tolle had the key spiritual experience he said he had, and he has some good things to say, but he certainly isn't an infallible master.

I read the Power of Now for a while, but it didn't take me long to see that some of Eckart's viewpoints aren't balanced. For example, he makes the mind too much of an enemy. I know of people who don't take responsibility for their mind. Instead they use one part of their mind to assert, "I am not my mind so I don't have to worry about what it does." Eckhart's teachings can lead people to this way of thinking. In fact there are Rick Ross forum conversations where people speak of how they used to make such a mistake after being exposed to Eckhart's teachings.

Albert