seagull wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:57pm:@a channel: are you suggesting that I conduct a hellish retrieval...just because I can?
Not at all. Just suggesting being open minded about the larger nature of reality and not form any belief systems based on a lack of experience with something.
There have been a lot of higher quality sources that have said similar, that there are some very lacking in light levels of the nonphysical that are very difficult, but need a lot of retrieval work done in. Based on my intuition, i would have to agree with Dannion Brinkley, these places unfortunately are filling up more.
Because of the nature of these focuses, one could accurately call them "hells". They're just not eternal, nor is anyone sent there as some kind of punishment. They are self and collective created, and folks get attracted to them based on their energetics within. Very direct cases of like attracts and begets like. The moment that there is any openeness to wanting a different way, to changing, to asking higher forces for help, to seeking the Light in some form or manner, they can be helped and "pulled out" of there so to speak.
Unlike Nanci and some others, i cannot be cavalier about these places and the amount of suffering that goes on there. They might be, in the very long term and ultimate sense, "temporary", but that affects me and others sensitive to others no less. The more you begin to merge with the Oneness, the more you feel and become aware of in the Whole. The more you are affected by the parts that are suffering. Others suffering becomes your suffering.
I've known i've been a retriever for a long time, because when i was little, around age 5 or so, i had thoughts of wanting to retrieve "Satan" (i wasn't immersed in religion during my childhood thankfully, but you hear things here and there).
I would like to see every being happy, whole, and healthy. But if we convince ourselves that places like this don't exist, and we turn a blind eye to the suffering, then how will things get helped there?
I kind of see it as analogous to places here on this earth and with humans. Take your average, younger person raised in upper class who has been sheltered their whole life. Life materially is easy for them, and they don't much think about the wider, bigger world, just mostly focus on their own little bubble of life.
How often do they think on some of the harsh African, or even American ghettos where survival and making it through the day is often really difficult, stressful, and challenging?
To that younger, upper class person, that other side of life might as well not exist for the amount of thought and focus they've given to it. And honestly, they would rather not think about it, because if they did, it would be uncomfortable to really think about it.
Similarly in a sense, a lot of us who do retrievals are kind of sheltered. We are often given the easier and least upsetting kinds of retrievals. But there is much more to reality than that.
I watched a movie recently called, "12 Years a Slave" based on a true story. I didn't fully want to see it, because i knew it would be rather upsetting, and it was. Some people might see it and say, thank goodness, that's in the past.
But is it really? One of the fastest growing, underground, criminal businesses in the world is human trafficking and the sex slave trade. It's in most countries and most certainly even here in the U.S. And it's not just women that are victims in this.
This is the shadow side of life, and it's scary, difficult, and it's very easy to want to automatically ignore the reality of it.
But part of why it can exist, is because of the above. Because not enough people are focusing on it and saying enough is enough. How many people do you ever hear talking about it, even though it's a growing issue?
For reasons like the above is why i believe it's so important to not repress and shove under the rug the shadow side of life. We will never fully transform, heal, and change it if we keep doing this. Seeing it not there, doesn't make it go away, only for self.