If, if, if...if Rulof would not had said things such as the below, I might've taken him more seriously.

"Isn't it sad, the Jews still cannot understand God's rightful dressing-down (referring to the holocaust)."


Mogenblue wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 4:28pm:

How is using discrimination ignorant? "IF" the people Hitler controlled avoided ignorance by using their discrimination, he would not had gotten into power and the holocaust would not had happened.

Since you don't say anything that is contrary to Rulof's antisemitic statements, it makes me wonder if you share the same viewpoints.

I believe it is appalling that a University calls itself "The University of Christ" when it supports a man who made antisemitic comments.

If you are supportive of Rulof's antisemitic viewpoints, why don't you just come out and say so, rather than ducking and dodging the issue by calling others ignorant?






Mogenblue wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

Mogenblue:

I won't respond to the part about my opposing the will of Christ.

If a man feeds 1,000 people and poisons 2 of them, the poisoning doesn't become a non-issue because there are 998 people he didn't poison.

Simarly, Rulof's anti-semitic comments don't become a non-issue simply because he said some things that aren't negative.

Jesus said you can tell the nature of a prophet by his fruits.  Are anti-semitic viewpoints good fruit?

Regarding the citations, some included quotes of what Rulof said.

I considered purchasing a copy of "My Revelations to the Peoples of the Earth" but decided not to because of the below footnote from the further below article. According to the footnote you need an earlier edition in order to see the numerous anti-semitic fragments that were omitted. I don't know if Mogenblue read an earlier edition that has the fragments.


(3) Issued in 1947 by Rulof Bros. , White Plains, N.Y. for The American Book/Stratford Press, Inc., N.Y.; this edition is at present only available at second hand. Numerous anti-Semitic fragments were omitted in this version, which remained unmentioned in the preface. A new translation is in preparation.

http://afa.home.xs4all.nl/alert/engels/rulof_e.html

-I found a copy of "My Revelations to The People's of the Earth" on the internet. Some of the pages are missing so I couldn't do a complete search. I believe the below words relate to what the article I provided stated. This is from page 247 of the first edition (1947). Caiaphas is a past-life name for Hitler.

"The drama of Jerusalem, the sequence in history and the resulting consequences,--the Age of Christ—they are all interrelated. Caiaphas was awakened by the masters so that he would fulfil a gigantic task and he was only too ready to do this. Nobody else could have been selected by God for this work, only Caiaphas could have become the scourge of mankind. He should have refused, he should have done what he had in the beginning: serve his people, give all for their welfare. Then his life would have been a blessing for all mankind. He should have followed Christ and bent his knee on Golgatha. Then he would have become the example of a spiritually conscious leader. But this was not possible; his soul was not immune from pollution. In him there were hatred and passions and these bad qualities were to make him into the scourge of mankind.

Hitler and Caiaphas, both these men had to awaken you [Jewish people] rudely and force you to bring your life into harmony with the divine laws. And in this way both are serving mankind, the Age of Christ and The Kingdom of God and Earth.

Thus you may say, in spite of all your suffering and misery: "My God, I thank you for having learned for the opportunity to atone for my sins." Then Christ shall bless your life and welcome you into the Kingdom of God!"

-When it comes to the earlier discussed matter on whether a mass murderer has to become the mother of every soul he murdered, it seems as if the below from page 395 says that he does.

"Indescribably tiresome is Hitler's life and the thought that he has to remain on Earth for millions of ages is too hard for him. He shall have to give bodies to millions of souls,--well, how many millions of lives has he destroyed, how many millions of souls has he sent prematurely to the Other Side? Only he can give them their new bodies. All these lives he shall have to attract, they are calling him back to Earth...

Mother Earth is going on, traveling her circuits in space, while Adolph Hitler is following the laws of God. He is giving a new organism to millions, but now his is cursing the human body, his body.

http://books.google.com/books?id=mtdk05orzA4C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_...

Mogenblue wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:28am:

Who's law?

I'm with Pauli. Who's laws? I'm going to put my own inner discernment before the words of some source. To follow a book (or a bunch of books) blindly isn't wisdom.  How are you any different that a person who says don't question the Bible because if you do you'll go to hell for all of eternity? Fear gets in the way of true discrimination.

Mogenblue wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:28am:

Big time, and I've found out a lot, including through my own experiences (not that I know everything).  I like it when I become aware of a new source of information, but I make a point of using my discrimination because I've found that there are a lot of questionable sources.

When it comes to automatic writing (I believe automatic typing is the same thing), I've found that different automatic writers contradict each other and sometimes say things that don't seem accurate.

Much of what Geraldine Cummins received from Frederick Meyers through automatic writing seems acccurate to me, but I wouldn't say it is infallible. Even Frederick himself wrote (through Geraldine) that he doesn't know everything and isn't beyond getting it wrong.

If Jesus were to pass on his wisdom to this generation in a John-like kind of way, I doubt he would do so through automatic writing or a similar method. He would probably find somebody who is spiritually developed enough so they can tune into universal wisdom inwardly, rather than rely on something such as channeling, automatic writing or automatic typing.

Does Rulof's material explain how to grow spiritually? Does his material explain how people can find out for themselves? I believe that growing spiritually is more important than having a complex belief system that is based on somebody else's words.

Mogenblue wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 12:48pm: