Pat E. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2010 at 3:04am:


  Ultimately this is what's most important, and it's very good advice for the individual. 

But, we are collective too and the Changes are about the collective more than just the individual. 

  Like Recoverer, i've also gotten various guidance messages in various ways about these changes, and i've found that many higher level psychic type sources (some of which have verifications in their work) also talk about these as well. 

   Sources like Bruce Moen, Bob Monroe, Cayce, Rosiland McKnights guidance, Courtny Brown Phd., Yeshua in the N.T. and "HeShe" in Monroe's 3rd book, Mary Summer Rain, and various others--including many people who experienced NDE's. 

   The deeper and important point is that these changes are going to be the outer catalysts which will really push the collective into the right direction spiritually and ecologically.  Think of it as a collective wake up call.

   This is why so many higher level sources have talked about these, because they are important, and a very real probability. 

  It is good to be aware, without fear, of what is generally coming, in order to prepare emotionally-mentally and spiritually for the challenges ahead. 

  There is nothing to fear unless one is overly attached to their body vehicle and materialism in general. 

  Things will get challenging for many people for awhile, but as Recoverer has hinted, ultimately and in the long run, these challenges will lead to greater and more collective states of happiness than what humanity now experiences.

  I'm not sure humanity, as a collective, would get there anytime soon without these kind of outer catalysts and challenges.   We haven't had a very good track record for the last 12, 600 or so years since the last major cycle of major changes happened.

  I want to see the world heal, and so i welcome these changes because this is the surgery that this cancer ridden body now needs in order to heal before it completely dies of over toxification. 

  Yeah, it's not a popular subject among most people, and most really don't want to hear about it because of various attachments and fears, but the more prepared people are, the less who will get stuck when they transition from these and those who stay in physical will be comforted knowing what these are really about--both collective and individual spiritual growth.  About healing, and awakening to Oneness. 

  If humanity was a less stubborn species, being hit in the head with 2x4's like these changes, probably wouldn't be necessary.  But challenge and suffering are ever humanity's greatest friends when it comes to waking up spiritually. 

  It's been true in my own life, and i've observed this in others i've known.  This is just a more collective developement of this.  The way past the cross, is by carrying it, not by avoiding it.

  What's less mentioned is that there are sources and forces interested in discrediting, playing down , and/or distorting information about these changes in order that more people don't take them seriously.   There are various ways and means of doing this, and they know all the psychological tricks in the book.   Sometimes they purport to believe in and they talk about the changes, but act and say things in a manner wherein they know most people won't take them seriously and think they are (& those who believe or talk similar by reflection) are cranks to be laughed off.

  Especially misleading are the half truth kinds, wherein just enough truth is put in their info in order to resonate a person's Soul to some extent, but most of the rest is quite off and misleading. 

  I don't doubt that such sources, in some way or another, visit this and other sites like this one, and spread their misleading info or try deride those who do receive messages and talk about these changes.  Some people connected to this, aren't even necessarily aware of it, but are unconsciously being psychically influenced by say certain E.T. groups with a vested interest in an unaware and ignorant humanity. 

Justin,
you are a very wise and perspicatious person.

Many thanks!

Best wishes,
David.

Pat E.

Going by the messages I received, the near future. It seems as if others have received the same. 

I live about 10 miles from the Pacific Ocean (San Francisco Bay Area), so I need to think about moving. One time I asked when key changes will take place, and I was shown 2011.  I don't know to what degree things are etched in stone.


Pat E. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2010 at 2:14am:

Recoverer, thanks.  I live in the relative lowlands of Sacramento, farther from the coast but still low.  In early 2012, if the world lasts that long, I'll be moving to Grass Valley, but can't till the project gets built and they are just now grading, etc.  Wonder if I'll make it up the hill before "it" happens.  Ah, the mysteries of life as we know it.

If the flooding happens, at least I'll have my rubber ducky to keep me company.

Volu wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 1:38pm:

Justin, it sounds like you aspire to being what the Buddhists call a bodhisattva, one who has vowed to keep coming back and working to help others attain enlightenment and not leave for nirvana (or wherever enlightened beings go) until the last sentient being has become enlightened.  I took the bodhisattva vow with Pema Chodron several years ago, but I don't think I have enlightened very many, if any, sentient beings nor do I feel particularly enlightened myself. 

But I share your feelings about the changes.  I'm old enough that "exiting stage left" wouldn't be much out of the order of things.  But I'll stick around and pursue what bodhisattva-like activities I'm capable of when the time comes, if that's my role this time.