Eleanna:
I had my first OBEs around 1980, and never used Bruce's techniques. Years ago I had OBEs with the effects, but eventually things changed so I just simply experience what I need to experience while meditating or lying in bed.
Don't underestimate the value of dreams. They often include symbology. What intelligence creates such symbology? During a regular dream you could be living in a house you don't live in, working a job you don't have, and interact with people you wouldn't normally interact with, and not question these inconsistencies. What intelligence enables you to have such selective memory?
"Regular" dreams can progress to something more than a dream. For instance, last night one of my dreams started in a regular way, it became a lucid dream and I noticed how real everything was, then I walked up a stairwell to a platform and God was there as a large orb of multi-colored light, I started crying and said "I finally get to return to you," I felt like a Near-death-experiencer who returns home, and the experience came to an end, but the wonderful feeling of love didn't.
Eleanna wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:54pm:Recoverer 2 wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:49pm:Hello:
If you are like me, you'll find that your spiritual path doesn't progress as you expect. Patience is a key word.
Hello! Thank you for being here, a voice in the darkness, haha. Thank you for the advice. A few years ago I would have casually replied by reassuring you that I am up to the challenge. However, I am sure I will suffer through a bumpy road. Oh well. That's what we're here for. Anytime you would like to share any of your experiences regarding this, I would be all ears.