I don’t know how to answer because I’m not really sure what you’re talking about.  Do you mean like multiverse theory?

Can you explain what you mean about the “now” stuff?  What I know about “now” is that the physical dimension we live in is a very slow vibration and a place where we use the concept of time to understand our experience while we’re here.  Higher vibrating dimensions have a much different feel about time and now, but while there we can easily hold both frameworks side by side and understand how they affect each other.  I think (believe) there are parts of “me” in other dimensions (realities) which have an effect on me here now and I think I have an effect on them as well.  Together combined we make up my total being. 

I’m not sure if I’m understanding your question, but I would like to be able to access any point in time or any experience I’ve already had and then re-experience it.  I always wish that I could completely recall and relive great experiences, memories, or conversations and all the thoughts, feelings, and emotions that went with them. 

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Mac, I'm not exactly sure of what you're asking either, but I'll offer my view on this subject.

Time is intrinsic to our source. (God, creator, source, the One, or whatever name that fits your belief system.)  Without time evolution could not exist.  Evolution requires change.  Primordial time began when source first noticed a change in states of consciousness and was able to switch between these states consciousness.

Here in the ELS, time moves forward because of our physics.  Time in the astral realm can be very different depending on the laws that govern various worlds/realities that exist within the astral realm.  There are many.  In some of these worlds, time can seem non-existent, in others time can seem to go either forward or backward.  It all depends on the belief system of the beings that exist within a particular realm of energy consciousness.  However, from a fundamental perspective, time does necessarily exist even though it's basis of recognition varies according to the energy consciousness of a particular realm, as well as the energy consciousness of the beings that live in that particular reality.

For us, the point of power is in the present moment.  The past is gone, and the future is not yet here.  It is the choices we make, and actions we take that create our future.  It is the memory of events that have occurred in our past that "mark" time for us.  Usually the marking of time occurs with events that were significant to us.

Lights of Love wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


Lights of Love wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


It wasn't I who was asking and this whole thing was part of a longer conversation.

Lights of Love wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


That certainly appears to be the case for our physical dimension.  Quite whether time appeared in the manner you suggest is open to debate but in practical terms we may reasonably accept it as a start point for evolution in this dimension.

Lights of Love wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


This is the crux - time is as time is perceived.  Are there any absolute, empirical values?  If not then what appears as time here may be nothing of the sort but can't be 'seen' as 
such until we're outside of its constraints ie not incarnate in this dimension


Lights of Love wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


And this is the way I've always seen matters.  But I'm trying to consider other possibilities, trying to be open-minded while not allowing my open mind to be filled by others' trash.

mac wrote on Dec 14^th, 2017 at 5:49pm:


Mac ...

I realize you think that you are being clever by presenting what "you believe" is an impossible question to answer, but my own experience is that I (and humans in general) can know about the physical and non-physical. It is all one thing (e.g., the All-D); only our conscious focus changes.

I can know from my own physical and non-physical experience(s). I have had non-physical experiences which specifically transcend physical time, and required contributions from each. For example, to get as answer (which I was seeking) about someone, I was eventually given a non-physical vision of a future experience with this person and a second person who I did NOT know at all but was with them (e.g., while my body or physical apparatus was asleep and resting). A month later, the complimenting physical experience happened (unplanned and unexpected) at a restaurant that I did not intend to be at on that day. We had originally planned to be there the day before to celebrate a family member's birthday, but we decided it would be best if we waited one day. I did not know where this vision would take place (or if it would). I had not seen this person in many years, and the second person with them was the exact person I had been shown in my vision. So, it was completely random, and the single factor that predicted it was a non-physical experience after asked (the sky) about this person.

So, that's how I know that delineated, 3D time can be transcended (e.g., from a non-physical experience). It's also how I know that there can be no time or altered time, when I am in a state of being "beyond my physical body".

Finally, "I present no trash" (e.g., your implied words above for the experiences of others). I present my experience, and I did so in response to you asking for help.

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Subtle Traveler,

The experience you describe is very similar to something that happened to me many years ago!!

When I had mine the physical event took place about 2 hours after I received it.  I wanted to get in touch with someone but hadn’t been able to.  I decided to try using my psychic ability.  I laid down on my bed, closed my eyes, and focused my thoughts on wanting to know where she was and when I could see her.  I got a clairvoyant vision of actually seeing and feeling as if I were sitting in a chair at the Tattered Cover Bookstore.  In this vision, I saw her and a friend of hers (I didn’t know her) walk towards me without seeing me.  I said my friend’s name and she looked up right at me.  She got a startled expression, said she had to go, then grabbed her friend and hurried away.  This vision was so real.  I actually felt like I was actually there. 

I had no idea when this event was supposed to take place.  And I didn’t have any plans or intention of going to the bookstore.  But I asked my husband if he’d like to go to the bookstore and he said he would, so we did.  I wasn’t sure where in the bookstore exactly the event was in my vision, so I just went to my favorite section and began looking at books.  At one point I looked up and glanced around and I saw the same chair and location that I’d seen in my vision, so I walked over there and sat down.  About ten seconds later my friend walked around a corner just like I’d seen in my vision, and her friend was with her just like I’d seen in my vision.  And just like in my vision, I said her name, she looked at me startled, said she had to go, then grabbed her friend’s arm and walked away. 

So, none of this makes a whole lot of sense to me.  I had no prior intention of going to the bookstore, so how was it possible for me to see a vision of a future event with me in it, when I only went there because of the vision?  Meaning, if I had not had the vision then I wouldn’t have gone there. 

And why was she startled?  And, I was only sitting in that particular chair because it was the one in my vision.  It wasn’t for any other reason. 

Even if I had not had the vision, I had decided to go to the bookstore that evening, why would I just happen to be sitting in that particular chair?  It was a section of the bookstore that didn’t interest me, so I know for a fact I wouldn’t have been looking in that section and just randomly sitting there. 

The whole thing was just so bizarre! 

Vicky

Hi Vicky-

You said  "About ten seconds later my friend walked around a corner just like I’d seen in my vision, and her friend was with her just like I’d seen in my vision.  And just like in my vision, I said her name, she looked at me startled, said she had to go, then grabbed her friend’s arm and walked away."

The obvious question is, did you talk to your friend afterwards?   I'm curious to know her explanation as to her strange behavior.

R

mac wrote on Dec 15^th, 2017 at 1:05am:


Actually, no. I feel calm.

You asked for help, Mac, on a forum that has many members with varying non-physical experiences. You then had three people here responding to your request with the same feedback - "what you are suggesting about time is not clear to us". Each person also offered non-physical or all-D examples of their time / non-time experiences. Things that they had personally learned from experience. And, in direct response to my experience, you held forth that I could not possibly know the difference between time and non-time settings.

Here is the problem, Mac. When asking for help from others, "trash" is not a helpful metaphor to describe their experiences - in any context. It is insensitive and implies that the experiences of others are "less than". It also engenders an underlying defensive attitude (in you) towards the experiences of others. I wanted you to be more aware of that.

Well I'll make an attempt to reply back on the original topic.

Mac, if everything were always happening, I don't know how to conceptualize that because of my human perspective of only being able to experience one moment in time, i.e. "now".   Unless...if there was a way to pick an event and only focus on that experience then that would be more akin to what I said earlier, that I wish I could relive certain moments and experiences. 

I do believe we have everything we've experienced "recorded" inside us but the problem is not being able to access it.  For instance, I remember a few specific things about very special moments in my life but of course I can't recall every single moment of them. 

But part of me is satisfied and maybe happier that I'm not reliving things, even good things.  I think there's so much value in growing from our experience of time passing.

We really are never the same person from moment to moment.  I know that's an exaggeration but what I mean is, we are always slowing changing because of our experiences, feelings, thoughts, etc.  I can remember many times in my life where it's sad that I had to grow and change from the person I once was.  For instance, I liked the person I was way back in the early days of my marriage, but because of a bad marriage and abuse, I changed.  Which wasn't a conscious decision per se, it was actually survival and adaptability and it happens subtly.  When the storm has passed one day you realize you're not the same person and you never will be.  But mostly the changes are wonderful and I'm grateful for being a stronger version of myself.  But part of me wonders what life would be like and what I would be like had my marriage been wonderful and loving and we were still together.  Not because I miss him!  But because in a way, I miss my past self.  It's only a curiosity, not something I actually want!

So I guess if I had to choose between the way things actually are and your what-if scenario, I'm very happy for the way things actually are.