Given a day's consideration of my prior post regarding Selfica, I feel ethically obliged to add some additional infos.

It is true that Selfica are used primarily by Damanhurians, and are made primarily for Damanhurians. This in no way means Selfs are in some special way reserved for only Damanhurian use.

My feeling is that without the first hand experience of Damanhur, the Seliica would be difficult to navigate properly. They are not ordinary objects (as if any object is ordinary). The Selfica are multidimensional....

Without firsthand experience in Damanhur it would be nearly impossible to understand some of ithe concepts of the uses of Selfica. For example, "personality" holds a completely different meaning for Damanhurians than is understood beyond their community.

Trust this makes sense.

Morrighan wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39am:


Morrighan,

I'll have to let all that sink in a bit 

I'm puzzled about the other dimension factor.

Say a person named Frank wants to hurt somebody, but he decides to change for the better. Does there have to be another dimension where he doesn't change for the better and he hurts someone in a very bad way, or does it matter that he used his freewill in a positive way?

Say a person named Bill lost a balloon. In another dimension he finds this balloon. Fred, because he has changed for the better, decides to call Bill so he can pay him the money he owes him. Is the Fred that calls Bill in a dimension where a balloon exists, the same Fred that calls Bill in a dimension where a balloon doesn't exist? If there are two (or many more?) versions of both Fred, Bill, and everybody else who exists in their universe--same question as before--does Fred's decision to be a good person exist in every dimension that exists?

I'm basically a good person, but I'm not perfect. I have put a lot of effort into trying to be a better person. I would hate to think that there are versions of me that haven't tried to become better people, and have become absolute jerks. A wise and loving execution of our free will has to count for something, despite what some physicists and channelers say about multiple universes.

On one occasion I wrote "freewill" above on another I wrote "free will." Perhaps in another dimension I am more consistent. 

Morrighan:

If you meant me, I wasn't talking about timelines.


Morrighan wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Morrighan wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:



Yes there's definitely something to that.  With the story of the keys, the woman who lost them was si angry she demanded to have them back.  As with my son and his guitar pick he wanted it back out of sadness.  And T'ress was angry when she said "bring my checkbook back".  So emotion definitely is key. 

I know that to any "normal" person reading these stories who's never experienced this that these stories seem silly, and they would probably think there are logical explanations that we're overlooking.  But that doesn't matter to me since I know my own experience(s) to be true, and God knows I'm a stickler for detailed observation. 

By the way, I like to mention that my story of the keys was caused because I had read a book about the paranormal, specifically a chapter about "Dematerialization" that day, about how objects have disappeared from this dimension only to return later, as well as objects have appeared from other dimensions.  It's by D. Scott Rogo called "Beyond Reality:  The Role Unseen Dimensions Play In Our Lives". 

My copy of that book is somewhere in my storage unit     Man, I sure can't wait to get my hands on it again.  If only there was a way I could make it materialize right here, right now  . 

Recoverer 2 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:


No I don't think there has to be.  I don't think that's how it works.  I don't have many theories about the whole multiuniverse idea.  Are you saying that according to that idea, there must be every single version running about every choice we make? 

Also, I think that our freewill must cross dimensions.  I mean, mustn't it??  I'm not talking about multiuniverses in this concept.  My ideas about multidimensions is that they affect each other in some way we're probably not able to understand.  But I don't believe they are separate realities working parallel to each other. 

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These questions seem to be about timelines, not dimensions, at least not in the way that I am thinking of dimensions.  Also, I think it's one thing for objects to shift between dimensions, as in the cases of disappearing and (re)appearing objects.  It's gotta be something a tad different when it's us shifting dimensions.  An example I can think of would be like to say that right now I exist in a dimension that we operate in most often that's aligned with this physical reality.  But at the same time, there are other dimensions that also affect this reality, but we are not aware of or in tune with those dimensions very often.  Choices we make here can have an effect there or be caused because of an effect from there.  I'll try to come up with something from real experience to use as an example where I think this concept applies.

Vicky

Vicky:

People have differing viewpoints on what "many worlds--parallel universes-multi-universe" means. (People with differing viewpoints, OMG!). Some people believe things such as, in this world Hitler lost the war, but in another he won. Some people believe that many versions of basically the same universe exist, and that pretty much every possibility plays out, including the negative possibilities. With this way of thinking if a lady breaks free of an abusive relationship, in many universes, perhaps an infinite number, she didn't.

I can't say with one hundred percent certainty what this many world business is about, but if I consider my inner judgement, I find it hard to believe that when souls grow in wisdom and make good choices, such growth and choices are ignored in other universes.

I also find it hard to believe that if you did something such as decide to call me a "Knucklehead", an entire universe, including everyone that is in it, just so there could be a universe where you call me a Knucklehead, is created. Since you didn't do so in this universe, I'm not going to conclude that there is a universe where you did.

If the infinite universe viewpoint were true, there would be one universe where Morrighan agrees with you and Roger doesn't, one where Morrighan doesn't but Roger does, one where they both agree with you, one where neither of them do so, another where Bruce writes, "that's the most perceptive thing I ever read on this forum," and so on.

Sorry if I sound like somewhat of a knucklehead with all this talk, but one thing that troubles me is the suffering that many people and other beings go through, and I don't like the idea that even after you improve their situation,  there are many other universes where they still suffer and have problems. It seems to me that divine will and those who work with divine will, would not set things up so they would be so problematic. I'm not going to buy into such a viewpoint because some overly intellectual physicists are stumbling for a way to explain what takes place with quantum mechanics, or because of what some channeled sources say.

Some people have had lucid dreams and such where they experienced what seemed to be parallel lives. Perhaps they shouldn't take such experiences too literally. Perhaps their higher selves just showed them what their life would've been like if they had made another choice. They shouldn't assume that an entire universe, and everyone who lives in it, was created, just so they could experience an alternate choice.

If the parallel universe viewpoint is true, then chances are that none of us is now experiencing the first version of what we now are experiencing, we are alternate selves that started from earlier selves.

I wasn't speaking about timelines.





Vicky wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:37am:

Morrighan:

Vicky said: "I personally don't think it was a "being who did it.  I think more along the lines of it being a demonstration of how our consciousness affects our reality and the fact that we live in more than one reality dimension and in subtle ways we shift between them."

When she said this, I thought that she might be speaking of an alternate physical world. I didn't think she meant shifting to a nonphysical world, because why would a lost physical object go to a nonphysical world?



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Morrighan wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:02pm: