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New practice target, June 10-17
Jun 11th, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Hi all.

Owing to positive reception of the practice target in a recent thread, here is a new practice target.

This individual is recently deceased. The target is for only observation. Please not to interfere with his field or his journey. Again, there are no right or wrong answers, there is no grade.

And away we go! I will post infos about this individual in seven days.

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Disclaimer: this is not a true double-blind target. As I am the one who selected the target, that means I hold awareness of the identity of the recently deceased. While my field is closed to you (general you), it may yet be possible for you to pick up some of my field as you observe the target. Please to keep this in mind as you place your intent. In other words, stay on target. Thank you.
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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 3:08pm:
bump.


Okay thanks a lot again Morrighan for this !!

(Here you say "While my field is closed to you (general you), it may yet be possible for you to pick up some of my field as you observe the target"
I think i understand the global meaning of what you say but could you excuse me and reformulate please ?)
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Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
In a true double-blind project, a third party would select the target and I (as moderator) would be unaware of the target when I post the start of project. This ensures those who participate do not pick up on my field. Another way to say that is my awareness of the target can be removed as a factor in target acquisition if I do not know the target.

There is no need for such rigor within this framework. No scientific experiment is underway. It's just practice. It's about strengthening those muscles of perceptional awareness. The emphasis is on play. Everyone does better when the project is fun. No pressure. No right or rong answers. None to see but you.

As to contamination ... there are no leaks in my field. That does not mean you won't get a ping in return if you ping my field. You just won't get any infos, and I take rigorous care of my field. No unauthorized entry is permitted.
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Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
In a true double-blind project, a third party would select the target and I (as moderator) would be unaware of the target when I post the start of project. This ensures those who participate do not pick up on my field. Another way to say that is my awareness of the target can be removed as a factor in target acquisition if I do not know the target.

There is no need for such rigor within this framework. No scientific experiment is underway. It's just practice. It's about strengthening those muscles of perceptional awareness. The emphasis is on play. Everyone does better when the project is fun. No pressure. No right or rong answers. None to see but you.

As to contamination ... there are no leaks in my field. That does not mean you won't get a ping in return if you ping my field. You just won't get any infos, and I take rigorous care of my field. No unauthorized entry is permitted.


I'm glad you brought that up.  But I agree that it's more fun and relaxed this way.  And I am always practicing psychic ability anyway. 

I also meant to add to my response on the other thread that I trust myself not to cheat because it wouldn't be good practice if I did.

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Reply #4 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 9:45am
 
A small point of clarification: any/all are free to PM me. I won't answer questions about a live project. If you want to share your project notes after the week's project closes, I'm good with that.
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Reply #5 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 4:17pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
and I take rigorous care of my field. No unauthorized entry is permitted.


Questions (so sorry but i need some clarifications);

1/ Would you translate this sentence in profane and stupid oriented language please to be sure i understand ?
2/ Is this act of receiving information about a deceased target has a name please ?
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Reply #6 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 6:39pm
 
Hi Focus69,

I speak briefly of personal fields in this thread:
http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1497281940

and the conversation is probably best conducted there as it does not strictly concern afterlife knowledge. We are field beings being a field.

Do you mean to ask if there is a name for receiving infos about the recently deceased, or if it is necessary to retrieve the individual's name in life? If it is the latter, no.
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 6:59am
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 12th, 2017 at 6:39pm:
Hi Focus69,

I speak briefly of personal fields in this thread:
http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1497281940

and the conversation is probably best conducted there as it does not strictly concern afterlife knowledge. We are field beings being a field.

Do you mean to ask if there is a name for receiving infos about the recently deceased, or if it is necessary to retrieve the individual's name in life? If it is the latter, no.


No i was meaning if there was "a name for receiving infos about the recently deceased" ?

Thanks for your explanation on your field integrity concept but where did you first find this concept ? Did you create yourself ? Is there a beginning of a small consensus about it ? What is the difference between the concept of "field integrity" and the concept of  (our) energy ?
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Reply #8 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 11:00am
 
Probably the name for "receiving infos about the recently deceased" sounds a great deal like "receiving infos about the recently deceased."

My (new) reply as to personal fields is in this thread:

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1497281940/0#7
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Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 12:05pm
 
I just talk to someone i know who made all main Monroe programs and ask him if he was okay to try to do the exercise Morrighan proposes here.

He was very surprised to learn he was not supposed to interact with the target and wonder how one could know more about him without asking him directly ?...

I answered him, one were supposed just to look at the picture, place and intent and receive informations without any real interactions intents.

He answered that this exercise should then be very imagination oriented which i answered him was not wrong at all as imagination is the medium.

Question; The "no interaction rule" means one are supposed not to talk with the target right ?
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Reply #10 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 7:55am
 
Focus 69 wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
I just talk to someone i know who made all main Monroe programs and ask him if he was okay to try to do the exercise Morrighan proposes here.

He was very surprised to learn he was not supposed to interact with the target and wonder how one could know more about him without asking him directly ?...

I answered him, one were supposed just to look at the picture, place and intent and receive informations without any real interactions intents.

He answered that this exercise should then be very imagination oriented which i answered him was not wrong at all as imagination is the medium.

Question; The "no interaction rule" means one are supposed not to talk with the target right ?


I trust you (personal you, Focus 69) do not feel it necessary to ask all manner of people if it is okay to participate in a volunteer project.  Be that as it may ....

As I also trust is abundantly clear, I hold no current association with TMI, its members, its programs and its goals. This is an energetic move on my part and in no way dismisses TMI.

Certainly it is possible to gather infos about a person without personal contact. In the course of the mission work our teams undertake, contact is often highly undesirable. It's likely best to leave it at that.

How one navigates these waters, by "imagination" or otherwise is not up to me. We all have our own methods. Many come to this space at ALK because Bruce's methods are effective. They are not the only ones.

And to the question: "... the no interaction rule means one are not supposed to talk with the target, right?"

My reply is: this is correct. These are information-only missions. That means no interaction with the target. No talking to the target. Take care not to be observed as you observe. I (as moderator of these voluntary projects) have been very clear: do not interact with the target. Leave his field alone. Do not enter his field. Do not tamper with his field. Do not touch or in any other way engage his field beyond the requested observation.

There are reasons for this that I trust will become clear.

Thankee sai.
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Reply #11 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 11:17am
 
Not interfering with the target's energy field seems similar to how I use my Guidance at certain times.  For example, in some circumstances let's say there's something I need/want to know or to have happen in order for me to figure something out, or to understand, or to decide something, etc.  It involves another person, and maybe I'm not able to speak directly with that person for some reason because maybe they are dead, or maybe we don't have a good relationship and can't speak to each other, or some other circumstance, etc. 

So in those kinds of circumstances, I want information but I don't want to interfere.  So it's a perfect opportunity for me to do what I call using my Guidance to help facilitate what I need.  Of course the caveat is "if it's ok with that other person's spirit". 

In this way I'm using my Guidance as the go-between.  It's basically delivering my message or asking my question for me, while I wait here patiently for the reply, if any.  I feel that that's the most respectable way for me to try and get what I want and need without interfering or being intrusive or taking more than what I'm allowed to have.  I feel that whatever I receive, it is because that person gave permission.

I use this method a lot with living people and the results are always pretty amazing.  For one, I get information in the form of seeing something from that person's perspective which I may not have been able to think of before or getting answers to things I didn't know, and for another I usually always see some kind of change in that person.  They may come to me and bring up a conversation which they never would have done before, making us able to work out the very issues that prompted me to do the seeking through my Guidance in the first place. 

The bottom line is, I always feel satisfied that I didn't intrude on that person's energy field in any way.
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Reply #12 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 12:05pm
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 7:55am:
Focus 69 wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
I just talk to someone i know who made all main Monroe programs and ask him if he was okay to try to do the exercise Morrighan proposes here.

He was very surprised to learn he was not supposed to interact with the target and wonder how one could know more about him without asking him directly ?...

I answered him, one were supposed just to look at the picture, place and intent and receive informations without any real interactions intents.

He answered that this exercise should then be very imagination oriented which i answered him was not wrong at all as imagination is the medium.

Question; The "no interaction rule" means one are supposed not to talk with the target right ?


I trust you (personal you, Focus 69) do not feel it necessary to ask all manner of people if it is okay to participate in a volunteer project.  Be that as it may ....

As I also trust is abundantly clear, I hold no current association with TMI, its members, its programs and its goals. This is an energetic move on my part and in no way dismisses TMI.

Certainly it is possible to gather infos about a person without personal contact. In the course of the mission work our teams undertake, contact is often highly undesirable. It's likely best to leave it at that.

How one navigates these waters, by "imagination" or otherwise is not up to me. We all have our own methods. Many come to this space at ALK because Bruce's methods are effective. They are not the only ones.

And to the question: "... the no interaction rule means one are not supposed to talk with the target, right?"

My reply is: this is correct. These are information-only missions. That means no interaction with the target. No talking to the target. Take care not to be observed as you observe. I (as moderator of these voluntary projects) have been very clear: do not interact with the target. Leave his field alone. Do not enter his field. Do not tamper with his field. Do not touch or in any other way engage his field beyond the requested observation.

There are reasons for this that I trust will become clear.

Thankee sai.



Thanks for your answer Morrighan.
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Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
A small but significant part of the no interaction guidelines I ask:

The individuals who we have thusfar targeted are public figures, whether by choice or by chance. So there was some greater degree of attention from the human collective when they exited their life. Which is to say many people's  awareness was on them already.

In most cases for most people, attention diffuses over time. This means the individual's ties to Our World (trademark) weaken. A ship can't set sail until the mooring lines are loosed. Each mind's awareness focused on the departed is like a mooring line that keeps the individual "at dock" in Our World.

Pertinent to this forum are those individuals who for some reason have not completed their journey into the "afterlife". Some of us are called to this work. To me, it's not a destination.

In these practice missions there is no imperative to retrieve the recently deceased target. It's not called for. The first target left his material aspect six weeks ago. It's done. These are not retrievals. Attempting contact with the individual in question is like attaching a line (however thin) to a departing ship.
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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:21pm
 
Regarding the first target: I have been absent from the forum for a while but on a brief return while viewing the forum content noted the new exercise Morrighan offered.

It is not, of course, necessary for me to post my experience here, but I thought I would do so anyway. I approached the idea of this target with an open mind, and decided not to use a typical meditative process. I decided to allow the time to simply pass and to let the "moment" choose me. I simply viewed the person's picture as instructed and then let time pass. After a few days I received the following images during a few minutes of relaxation. What struck me was the dream-like nature of the experience, with no preparation. My notes regarding the closed eye vision which occurred:

"I looked down and saw “my” right hand. It did not look like my hand.  It was pale and was holding a round object with a few small round protrusions on the surface. The object did not look organic but was a cream color. It was about the size of a very small apple. The protrusions were rounded and very small, just a couple/few of them. I looked over to my left and seemed to see a few more of the objects floating in dark space. No one was holding them. I had no sense of tactile touch or sound. The image was purely visual."

This was all. There was no interaction or further pursuit of any contact. After viewing the source of the image and the information provided I have no real conclusions. However, the exercise and the simplified process was a new one for me. I would not have thought I would experience clear images and that particular accompanying feeling without setting a more specific time period aside for the process. It was interesting to notice how quickly the moment passed, and how it was generated spontaneously.


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Vicky wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 11:17am:
Not interfering with the target's energy field seems similar to how I use my Guidance at certain times.  For example, in some circumstances let's say there's something I need/want to know or to have happen in order for me to figure something out, or to understand, or to decide something, etc.  It involves another person, and maybe I'm not able to speak directly with that person for some reason because maybe they are dead, or maybe we don't have a good relationship and can't speak to each other, or some other circumstance, etc. 

So in those kinds of circumstances, I want information but I don't want to interfere.  So it's a perfect opportunity for me to do what I call using my Guidance to help facilitate what I need.  Of course the caveat is "if it's ok with that other person's spirit". 

In this way I'm using my Guidance as the go-between.  It's basically delivering my message or asking my question for me, while I wait here patiently for the reply, if any.  I feel that that's the most respectable way for me to try and get what I want and need without interfering or being intrusive or taking more than what I'm allowed to have.  I feel that whatever I receive, it is because that person gave permission.

I use this method a lot with living people and the results are always pretty amazing.  For one, I get information in the form of seeing something from that person's perspective which I may not have been able to think of before or getting answers to things I didn't know, and for another I usually always see some kind of change in that person.  They may come to me and bring up a conversation which they never would have done before, making us able to work out the very issues that prompted me to do the seeking through my Guidance in the first place. 

The bottom line is, I always feel satisfied that I didn't intrude on that person's energy field in any way.


@ Vicky; To sum up you dont make contact yourself but use the intermediary of your "helper" right ?

(I still dont know what to do with the helper topic as Albert told me the imagination priming method of the helper advised by Moen could lead to a confusion between true NPR (non-physical realm) events and imagination...And as i already made contact with an helper with the help of imagination i am a bit circumspect... ^^)

@ Morrighan; i would like to say that i realize my misunderstanding about your "field integrity" is confirmed once again here with Vicky and is all my fault due to my bad english, again sorry for this my dear !
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seagullresting wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Regarding the first target: I have been absent from the forum for a while but on a brief return while viewing the forum content noted the new exercise Morrighan offered.

It is not, of course, necessary for me to post my experience here, but I thought I would do so anyway. I approached the idea of this target with an open mind, and decided not to use a typical meditative process. I decided to allow the time to simply pass and to let the "moment" choose me. I simply viewed the person's picture as instructed and then let time pass. After a few days I received the following images during a few minutes of relaxation. What struck me was the dream-like nature of the experience, with no preparation. My notes regarding the closed eye vision which occurred:

"I looked down and saw “my” right hand. It did not look like my hand.  It was pale and was holding a round object with a few small round protrusions on the surface. The object did not look organic but was a cream color. It was about the size of a very small apple. The protrusions were rounded and very small, just a couple/few of them. I looked over to my left and seemed to see a few more of the objects floating in dark space. No one was holding them. I had no sense of tactile touch or sound. The image was purely visual."

This was all. There was no interaction or further pursuit of any contact. After viewing the source of the image and the information provided I have no real conclusions. However, the exercise and the simplified process was a new one for me. I would not have thought I would experience clear images and that particular accompanying feeling without setting a more specific time period aside for the process. It was interesting to notice how quickly the moment passed, and how it was generated spontaneously.




Yeah this is interesting because im actually wondering what could be the best method to do this exercise as i am not very fan of opening my eyes in the middle of a deep meditation to look at the picture hehe
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Reply #17 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
Why would you need to open your eyes? My perception of the process was to simply look at the image once, taking it in. That was all. Then proceed, in your own way.

Regarding your questions about helpers. It is not necessary, in my opinion, to be able to distinguish your 'helpers' at all. Being centered and fully present with myself is most important, for me personally. I consider all these types of activities experiments only. Simply try some different activities, and keep notes, and pay attention to your accompanying sensations, no matter how subtle. Learn to record these, and value your own process. That is my own two cents.
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Reply #18 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:33pm
 
Seagullresting, first may I ask are you "Seagull" from before? 

Also--I did not read what you've posted on this thread because I am under the impression that we are NOT sharing our results on the forum.  Isn't that everyone's understanding?

If I read your results, then it will taint my perception since I haven't done the experiment yet.  We have a week's time for each target.

What's everyone's thought about this?  We definitely need consistency and agreement between all of us!!

If you guys are sharing your results right now then I can't participate.  I need to have absolutely no preloaded info that could get in my way.

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Reply #19 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
Yes, I am.

What I posted was in relation to the first target. We have moved on to the second target this week.

If I have revealed what was inappropriate, please know I did not mean to cause any confusion. It was my understanding that the first exercise was complete.

If results are not welcome I will no longer share them.
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Focus 69 wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
@ Vicky; To sum up you dont make contact yourself but use the intermediary of your "helper" right ?

(I still dont know what to do with the helper topic as Albert told me the imagination priming method of the helper advised by Moen could lead to a confusion between true NPR (non-physical realm) events and imagination...And as i already made contact with an helper with the help of imagination i am a bit circumspect... ^^)

@ Morrighan; i would like to say that i realize my misunderstanding about your "field integrity" is confirmed once again here with Vicky and is all my fault due to my bad english, again sorry for this my dear !


Focus 69,

Depending on what I'm trying to do, I will use different methods and means of communication.  Think of ANY method as being a "means of communication". 

If I want to do some work on an energy level and be noninvasive, then I use my method I described above.  In essence it's me communicating with someone else via my spirit and their spirit.  The use of that "channel" only means to me that I myself as a human being (with needs, wants, emotions, limited perception, etc). is not infringing unfairly on someone else.  I view my Guidance as having a much greater line of sight than me.  For instance, my Guidance knows the future, I don't.  My Guidance knows what the outcome of my actions will be, I don't. 

If I do want to try and make direct contact with someone, I still may not "have the power" to do that without the aid of my Guidance (higher-self, helpers, etc), or without the allowance of the other person's spirit.  This to me is just being polite.  It's never my intention to cause harm or take advantage or impose my will on another person.

I think you're really overthinking the "helper" concept, and that's ok.  It's best just to practice and see what your experience is like using a helper.  It doesn't need to work for everyone, it's just a mechanism. 

It's like this:  I've been psychic all my life.  Growing up and for many years I wondered who was responsible for giving me psychic information?  Where did it come from?  Who decided what things I get psychic information about?

Then I came to realize, understand, and accept that it doesn't matter to me "who" if anyone is responsible.  I didn't like to chalk it up to being God, angels, special spiritual beings, supreme beings, etc.  That didn't make sense to me anyway.  What made sense to me was that in the bigger picture of the totality of my consciousness, there are parts of me where that information comes from.  I don't know all those other parts of my consciousness.  For now, I am only aware of the part of my consciousness that is Vicky living this physical life right now.  But I believe that I have a greater existence that is more than this physical part of me.  I use the visual of taking a slice out of a pizza.  That one slice is me in this physical lifetime, but I am the whole entire pizza.  What those other parts are doing or what they know, I'm not sure right now.  But I trust in Me.  I trust in my higher self.  That's my belief.  That's what I use when I say "my Guidance". 

I'm also open to believing that there are other beings from other consciousnesses, who may be helping me.  Maybe dead relatives.  We can call them angels or whatever else you want to call them.  So when I use the concept of a "helper", it's not important to me "who" or "where" it comes from...other than the fact that I ALWAYS do any work in the name of being for my highest good, for the other person's highest good, and with the love, guidance, and protection that I've always known my entire life.  I've had some pretty darn amazing experiences that defy logic and physics...and I can't explain nor prove them.  But at least I know that some amazing stuff is possible in this world, in my life, and I trust that.  It's what works for me. 

Simply put, you could use the concept of a Helper in a similar way.  Think of it as You allowing yourself to receive the aid, help, and guidance of something greater than you are aware of in your present perception, and in doing so you are opening up your belief that such help and guidance is possible, helpful, from a good source, and for the best intentions.  In this way you are creating the ability to allow yourself to push past the blockage of the unknown and allowing yourself to experience things that are beyond the limits of your normal current perception.  It may really help propel you in your abilities.  Or it might not be what works for you.  All you can do is experiment.  There's no right or wrong about it. 

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Reply #21 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
seagullresting wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Yes, I am.

What I posted was in relation to the first target. We have moved on to the second target this week.

If I have revealed what was inappropriate, please know I did not mean to cause any confusion. It was my understanding that the first exercise was complete.

If results are not welcome I will no longer share them.


Whew!  No, we're good.  When I started to read your post up above that said you wanted to share results, I immediately just skipped it.  So I have no idea what you said.

Thanks for explaining!  I'm all for sharing past experiments on line, that doesn't bother me.

Thanks Seagull.  Nice to see you are back!
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seagullresting wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
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I approached the idea of this target with an open mind, and decided not to use a typical meditative process. I decided to allow the time to simply pass and to let the "moment" choose me. I simply viewed the person's picture as instructed and then let time pass. After a few days I received the following images during a few minutes of relaxation. What struck me was the dream-like nature of the experience, with no preparation. My notes regarding the closed eye vision which occurred:

"I looked down and saw “my” right hand. It did not look like my hand.  It was pale and was holding a round object with a few small round protrusions on the surface. The object did not look organic but was a cream color. It was about the size of a very small apple. The protrusions were rounded and very small, just a couple/few of them. I looked over to my left and seemed to see a few more of the objects floating in dark space. No one was holding them. I had no sense of tactile touch or sound. The image was purely visual."
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Interesting.

Your description of the items with the protrusions is most apt to something that I will write and post about in a while, and that I hope will be of benefit to others.

I had recently decided not to write a post about the matter here, but then I saw your name and read your post and you prompted me to reconsider.

So now I have decided that I will write and post about it here on this forum. Later though.

I expected you to return any day but I did not expect you to bring that description with you.

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Vicky wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
Seagullresting, first may I ask are you "Seagull" from before? 

Also--I did not read what you've posted on this thread because I am under the impression that we are NOT sharing our results on the forum.  Isn't that everyone's understanding?

If I read your results, then it will taint my perception since I haven't done the experiment yet.  We have a week's time for each target.

What's everyone's thought about this?  We definitely need consistency and agreement between all of us!!

If you guys are sharing your results right now then I can't participate.  I need to have absolutely no preloaded info that could get in my way.

Vicky




Yes i am agree NOT to share result here as it would spoil everything.
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Vicky wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Focus 69 wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
@ Vicky; To sum up you dont make contact yourself but use the intermediary of your "helper" right ?

(I still dont know what to do with the helper topic as Albert told me the imagination priming method of the helper advised by Moen could lead to a confusion between true NPR (non-physical realm) events and imagination...And as i already made contact with an helper with the help of imagination i am a bit circumspect... ^^)

@ Morrighan; i would like to say that i realize my misunderstanding about your "field integrity" is confirmed once again here with Vicky and is all my fault due to my bad english, again sorry for this my dear !


Focus 69,

Depending on what I'm trying to do, I will use different methods and means of communication.  Think of ANY method as being a "means of communication". 

If I want to do some work on an energy level and be noninvasive, then I use my method I described above.  In essence it's me communicating with someone else via my spirit and their spirit.  The use of that "channel" only means to me that I myself as a human being (with needs, wants, emotions, limited perception, etc). is not infringing unfairly on someone else.  I view my Guidance as having a much greater line of sight than me.  For instance, my Guidance knows the future, I don't.  My Guidance knows what the outcome of my actions will be, I don't. 

If I do want to try and make direct contact with someone, I still may not "have the power" to do that without the aid of my Guidance (higher-self, helpers, etc), or without the allowance of the other person's spirit.  This to me is just being polite.  It's never my intention to cause harm or take advantage or impose my will on another person.

I think you're really overthinking the "helper" concept, and that's ok.  It's best just to practice and see what your experience is like using a helper.  It doesn't need to work for everyone, it's just a mechanism. 

It's like this:  I've been psychic all my life.  Growing up and for many years I wondered who was responsible for giving me psychic information?  Where did it come from?  Who decided what things I get psychic information about?

Then I came to realize, understand, and accept that it doesn't matter to me "who" if anyone is responsible.  I didn't like to chalk it up to being God, angels, special spiritual beings, supreme beings, etc.  That didn't make sense to me anyway.  What made sense to me was that in the bigger picture of the totality of my consciousness, there are parts of me where that information comes from.  I don't know all those other parts of my consciousness.  For now, I am only aware of the part of my consciousness that is Vicky living this physical life right now.  But I believe that I have a greater existence that is more than this physical part of me.  I use the visual of taking a slice out of a pizza.  That one slice is me in this physical lifetime, but I am the whole entire pizza.  What those other parts are doing or what they know, I'm not sure right now.  But I trust in Me.  I trust in my higher self.  That's my belief.  That's what I use when I say "my Guidance". 

I'm also open to believing that there are other beings from other consciousnesses, who may be helping me.  Maybe dead relatives.  We can call them angels or whatever else you want to call them.  So when I use the concept of a "helper", it's not important to me "who" or "where" it comes from...other than the fact that I ALWAYS do any work in the name of being for my highest good, for the other person's highest good, and with the love, guidance, and protection that I've always known my entire life.  I've had some pretty darn amazing experiences that defy logic and physics...and I can't explain nor prove them.  But at least I know that some amazing stuff is possible in this world, in my life, and I trust that.  It's what works for me. 

Simply put, you could use the concept of a Helper in a similar way.  Think of it as You allowing yourself to receive the aid, help, and guidance of something greater than you are aware of in your present perception, and in doing so you are opening up your belief that such help and guidance is possible, helpful, from a good source, and for the best intentions.  In this way you are creating the ability to allow yourself to push past the blockage of the unknown and allowing yourself to experience things that are beyond the limits of your normal current perception.  It may really help propel you in your abilities.  Or it might not be what works for you.  All you can do is experiment.  There's no right or wrong about it. 




Vicky thanks a lot for this message !!

(To be honest, i would not say that i over analyse this helper thing (even if its clearly the case in a way lol), i'd prefer say i am maybe victim of a "Spiritual Community" who over-promotes the importance of that topic hehe... but dont worry my questions will have an end on this topic as well Wink
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Reply #26 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 5:51pm
 
Yes, good to see you again, Seagull, in whatever new form.

Vicky how far you've come since we first met.
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Reply #27 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:54am
 
Morrighan wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
Vicky how far you've come since we first met.


Thanks!  I didn't get here by myself so I can't take all the credit  Roll Eyes 

I love the friends and teachers and spiritual community that have helped me grow and learn. 

So nice to have you back too Morrighan.  I'm so glad you reached out to me a while back.  It's been fun!
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Reply #28 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 2:12pm
 
The positive reception to these projects feels good. More than once as I read discussions here it seems to me I'm reading lines from the People's Front of Judea in Life of Brian. hahaha.
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Reply #29 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:43am
 
Two postman times three animal control officers divided by two gas meter readers makes how many vendable integrated community workers? Decode your answer now! Good! Did you remember to carry the bum?

This individual's name in life was Theunis Botha.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/22/big-game-hunter-killed-when-shot-elephant-collapses...
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Reply #30 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:54am
 
Well shoot, I was way off. 

Oh well, there's always next time.
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Reply #31 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 10:02am
 
We're not "grading" ourselves on "hits" like with remote viewing. In RV if the target is the Eiffel Tower and the remote viewer sketches the Titanic, that' a clear miss. With these exercises all infos we receive may be pertinent on some dimension.
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Reply #32 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 10:11am
 
True, true.  But I still like, and need, to see my hits.  When they are there blatantly staring me in the face it's pretty darn cool!

But it's all good practice which is always useful and important. 

I will not give up!   Cool
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Reply #33 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 10:23am
 
The question of remote viewing came up for me via PM and I believe it best to bring it into this discussion.

As you (general you) are likely aware, remote viewing was developed as a military protocol for military use. The remote viewers were tasked with clear hits on identifiable targets such as Soviet submarines and nuclear silos.

Clear "hits" were integral to the success of the program(s). The military being the military, there is a great deal of "hurry up and wait." This is how the military remote viewers started remote viewing unverifiable targets such as the Ark of the Covenant. Understandably this did not go down well with top brass.

Here our "targets" are both verifiable and unverifiable, in a sense. And my disclaimer here: we are not doing remote viewing. Remote viewing has strict protocol. We are simply "exercising our muscles of discernment", as I put it back-channel.

While getting a "hit" on this individual's unique death circumstance might be considered a trophy hit, we may in fact pick up on information much more relevant to the soul in transition. What is truly important to an individual may have little relevance to the ways and means of their exit from these dimensions.

That said, I can add a personal dimension to this. One aspect of my Being once exited life in a hunting "accident". Was it an accident? It doesn't matter. First, as a freshly deceased Being, I knew where to go and what to do. I've done that enough LOL let's not count the times, thank you. The "vibration" to be cleared runs on much deeper levels of being, and this may account for any "non-hits" one may or may not believe received this week.
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Reply #34 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:09am
 
After Focus 69 reviewed my results and pointed something out that I had overlooked, I am recanting my previous statement of being "way off"  Wink

Despite the rest of my notes seemingly not to describe anything that the Internet can provide verification for, there was one thing in particular I wrote down that does fit the news report about this man's death.  I wrote "Heavy weight on chest", and since this man was crushed to death when an elephant fell on top of him I'd say that definitely qualifies as a hit.

It's a reminder to me what Bruce has taught me, that even though you may have lots of information that's wrong or that doesn't provide verification, it doesn't make the one thing that is valid any less important.  It's more important to find what fits instead of what doesn't, especially as you're developing your skills and learning how your own perception works for you.

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Vicky wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:09am:
I wrote "Heavy weight on chest", and since this man was crushed to death when an elephant fell on top of him I'd say that definitely qualifies as a hit.


Yup that's a "trophy hit".  Cheesy
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Reply #36 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:27am
 
Perfect miss for me as far as i am concerned, even if as you say Morrighan, maybe i collect hits on other dimensions of the personality of the target... (which is maybe the case actually as me and Vicky share one troubling identical recurrent vision on this week target)

Ingenuous question; what is or what would be the exercise which creates the most high percentage of chance to check and validate some perceptions one receive ? Maybe synchronous partnered exploration like retrievals for example or anything would produce a better "return/output" for our goal ?
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Bruce's books are the "Join the Dots" of personal verification of non-physical exploration. Recall it required years of work to satisfy his engineering personality.
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Reply #38 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:56am
 
It's the "niggle", as one friend states. It's about a certain discernment between the feeling one has when one becomes aware of "heavy weight on chest" and other infos. Yes these exercises are practice in discernment.
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Morrighan wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:52am:
it required years of work to satisfy his engineering personality.



(Sorry again but) You well talk about the engineering personality of Bruce here ?
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Focus 69 wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Morrighan wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:52am:
it required years of work to satisfy his engineering personality.



(Sorry again but) You well talk about the engineering personality of Bruce here ?



Bruce's published work is a breadcrumb trail of his personal journey from skeptical inquirer to experienced explorer.

It's just a story. Create your own story. Write your own story as your story writes you.
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Morrighan wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:56am:
It's the "niggle", as one friend states. It's about a certain discernment between the feeling one has when one becomes aware of "heavy weight on chest" and other infos. Yes these exercises are practice in discernment.


I agree about learning discernment.  The "heavy weight on chest" while not being something I physically felt, was however a feeling-sense of information rather than a thought-sense. 

Great reminder for me.  I will remember that the next time I get one of these feeling-sense bits of awareness/information it would also be a good idea to reflect in that state of being at that moment to see what else I can obtain about that.  Typically what I do is "clear everything out" and start again between bits of what I receive as a way of trying to get more, or get something else. 

Very good reminder for me, Morrighan.  I will try to slow down my process and pay more attention to how I feel while I'm perceiving and receiving.
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Morrighan wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 10:23am:
The question of remote viewing came up for me via PM and I believe it best to bring it into this discussion.

As you (general you) are likely aware, remote viewing was developed as a military protocol for military use. The remote viewers were tasked with clear hits on identifiable targets such as Soviet submarines and nuclear silos.

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Here our "targets" are both verifiable and unverifiable, in a sense. And my disclaimer here: we are not doing remote viewing. Remote viewing has strict protocol. We are simply "exercising our muscles of discernment", as I put it back-channel.

While getting a "hit" on this individual's unique death circumstance might be considered a trophy hit, we may in fact pick up on information much more relevant to the soul in transition. What is truly important to an individual may have little relevance to the ways and means of their exit from these dimensions.

That said, I can add a personal dimension to this. One aspect of my Being once exited life in a hunting "accident". Was it an accident? It doesn't matter. First, as a freshly deceased Being, I knew where to go and what to do. I've done that enough LOL let's not count the times, thank you. The "vibration" to be cleared runs on much deeper levels of being, and this may account for any "non-hits" one may or may not believe received this week.



Sorry for the delay but could you tell me what do you mean here please ?: "The "vibration" to be cleared runs on much deeper levels of being, and this may account for any "non-hits" one may or may not believe received this week."
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Sorry for the delay but could you tell me what do you mean here please ?: "The "vibration" to be cleared runs on much deeper levels of being, and this may account for any "non-hits" one may or may not believe received this week."


Put another way, the clearest reference points occur when we grow into awareness of ourselves as multidimensional. For if one wishes to communicate/participate in the dimensions beyond afterlife, it's best to be multidimensional as well. Then take a step back!
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