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May 9th, 2017 at 11:38am
 
I am in contact with Bruce, via Face book and saw a post about him "or someone else" booking themselves into a hospice care unit.

Do you know if this was Bruce or one of his Facebook friends?

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Reply #1 - May 9th, 2017 at 1:03pm
 
Alan, it's Bruce, and he will have hospice care at home.
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Reply #2 - May 9th, 2017 at 3:25pm
 
Vicky, I'm so sorry to hear this. Bruce did say that his days were numbered but I was hoping it was still a ways off.

Please keep us posted. And be sure Bruce knows that he and Pharon are in our thoughts.

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Reply #3 - May 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm
 
I wish Bruce (and his loved ones) comfort and peace. All will be well, and all is well. Our difficulties are only for a time.
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Reply #4 - May 9th, 2017 at 5:39pm
 
  Would echo what Seagull said and add that I'll pray for an aware, peaceful, and as painless as possible transition. 

   Bruce, if you happen to read this, thank you for all your help and service, both in a personal sense and in an impersonal sense. 

  Also, when you get fully clear and phase to the level you most strongly vibrate to, please check on some of the issues that we've talked about, and any help or assistance you can lend from over there to here, would be appreciated.
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Reply #5 - May 9th, 2017 at 7:04pm
 
I don't mean to rush things, thank you Bruce, for writing your books and providing this site. It has meant a lot to me. You'll probably find out about this and other things during your life review (again, I don't mean to rush things).

When it is your time, my guess is that you'll have a lot of fun exploring things while you are free of a body. You'll enjoy the PUL big time.
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Reply #6 - May 9th, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
Vicky wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Alan, it's Bruce, and he will have hospice care at home.


Dear Vicky,

I see dear Vicky that you have taken over global moderator of which I know you are going to make a huge success of. And I promise no more negativity from me in the future

Do you know what illness our beloved Bruce is suffering from so that we can hold hands and pray for him
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Reply #7 - May 9th, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
I too want to thank you, Bruce, for sharing your spiritual adventures and for creating and maintaining this site.  I believe God has an exit strategy for each of us.  What haunts me are those few unforgettable experiences in which prayer brings dear souls back from certain death.  Such miracles haunt me because of the ultimately unanswerable question of why some are healed and others are not.  This apparent inconsistency raises the painful and elusive issue of "the right circumstances" for a healing miracle.  I am certain of one thing: those are not healed are not allowed to die because they failed to meet faith conditions met by those who are healed. 

I became pastor of my Colville church on July 1, 2007.  Since that time, it seems we have lost about half of our aging congregation.  Several of those who died received a great deal of prayer, but died anyway, despite the fact that they were among the most vibrant loving Christians I have ever met. 

Still, I can't bring myself to give up on anyone, especially a kind and unique fellow traveler like you, Bruce.  So at this said news, I will pray for your recovery and bring your need before my Monday prayer group that has been privileged to witness many answers to prayer.

God bless you, Bruce,
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Reply #8 - May 9th, 2017 at 8:47pm
 
TheDonald wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
I too want to thank you, Bruce, for sharing your spiritual adventures and for creating and maintaining this site.  I believe God has an exit strategy for each of us.  What haunts me are those few unforgettable experiences in which prayer brings dear souls back from certain death.  Such miracles haunt me because of the ultimately unanswerable question of why some are healed and others are not.  This apparent inconsistency raises the painful and elusive issue of "the right circumstances" for a healing miracle.  I am certain of one thing: those are not healed are not allowed to die because they failed to meet faith conditions met by those who are healed. 

I became pastor of my Colville church on July 1, 2007.  Since that time, it seems we have lost about half of our aging congregation.  Several of those who died received a great deal of prayer, but died anyway, despite the fact that they were among the most vibrant loving Christians I have ever met. 

Still, I can't bring myself to give up on anyone, especially a kind and unique fellow traveler like you, Bruce.  So at this said news, I will pray for your recovery and bring your need before my Monday prayer group that has been privileged to witness many answers to prayer.

God bless you, Bruce,
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Don the Bible says it rains on both the good and bad
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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2017 at 8:54pm
 
  It would be more wise to pray not my will, but the Will of the Creative Forces be done, whatever we pray for Bruce or others. 

   Consider the possibility that perhaps Bruce wants to leave the physical.   

  I certainly won't be praying for him to stay in physical, as I get the strong sense that he's ready to go.

Years ago, we did a group prayer healing session for Romain here. At first I pictured Romain's body healing, but then I realized that might not be what his Soul and/or Spirit wanted for him and so I prayed for the Will of the Creative Forces be done, whatever that was (to use my energy however "they", including his own Spirit, saw fit). 

   I was told, and quite clearly so, during this healing session that "he will die."  I got the sense that this was part of the plan.  I didn't tell him or the people involved, because I figured there was a possibility that I heard/translated wrong, or it came from a limited/hindering source, and I didn't want to introduce any doubt in case he was meant to be healed. 

  In other words, don't play God when self lacks the knowledge and wisdom of same.  Let God play God, and instead ask to be shown what the Creative Force's will is. Considering Yeshua's constant example and prayers, you would think that Christians would understand this better than most.
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Reply #10 - May 9th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
rondele wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 3:25pm:
Vicky, I'm so sorry to hear this. Bruce did say that his days were numbered but I was hoping it was still a ways off.

Please keep us posted. And be sure Bruce knows that he and Pharon are in our thoughts.

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I'll do my best to keep you posted.  I'll let Bruce know to check here to see what everyone is sharing and all the love and prayers everyone sends.

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Reply #11 - May 9th, 2017 at 9:24pm
 
Alan McDougall wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
Vicky wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Alan, it's Bruce, and he will have hospice care at home.


Dear Vicky,

I see dear Vicky that you have taken over global moderator of which I know you are going to make a huge success of. And I promise no more negativity from me in the future

Do you know what illness our beloved Bruce is suffering from so that we can hold hands and pray for him


Thank you.  He has liver failure and it's been progressing more rapidly since I last saw him, which was last September, although he's been dealing with it's slow progression over at the last few years. 

When I found out he was applying for hospice care I was very relieved to hear that it will be at home.  I'd hate for him to be away from home especially at the time of his passing.  I want his wife to be by his side too of course, to give both of them the most peace and comfort. 

Bruce knows how grateful I am for having had him in my life, and how much I love him.  It's been extremely painful for me to know he's been getting sicker and is facing his transition.  The depression and stress it's caused me has been unbelievable. 

But, I'm incredibly lucky and grateful to have learned what I know about death and the afterlife!  I know Bruce will be perfectly fine at the moment he crosses over.  I know the joy, love, and amazement he will be feeling.  I know he will be surrounded by loved ones, that he'll feel and know all the love and good thoughts people here have for him, and I know he will be visiting me and anyone else who wants a visit from him.  I'm sure of those things, so that gives me relief and keeps me from falling apart.  I can't imagine not having the knowledge and beliefs I have.  It's why it's so important for us to carry on and pass on what we know, and I've learned SO much from Bruce and his work.  I'm so honored to have the friendship with him that I have. 

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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2017 at 10:30pm
 
  These bittersweet human lives of ours, which are more bitter while here, become more sweet when we reflect on them later, where Like attracts and begets Like takes us to. 

   From having done your charts, having met both of you in person, and general intuition, it's very clear to me Vicky that you and Bruce have a strong Soul and Spirit connection. And as you know, that doesn't ever end, but only grows stronger and more true. Both you are and Bruce are true Helpers in the flesh. 

  Will be sending loving thoughts and energy to you as well. Your Spirit/Disk has certainly put you through the ringer this life, but I know it's because you and your Spirit desired to grow a lot in this life, and while that growth might not be clear to you, it's clear to me.  You will grow and attune to PUL even more, and Bruce will continue to help you in that process from the nonphysical.   

  Thank you also for being here at this difficult, challenging cycle and for your service--you're a lovely lady and beautiful, old Soul.   Kiss
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  These bittersweet human lives of ours, which are more bitter while here, become more sweet when we reflect on them later, where Like attracts and begets Like takes us to. 

   From having done your charts, having met both of you in person, and general intuition, it's very clear to me Vicky that you and Bruce have a strong Soul and Spirit connection. And as you know, that doesn't ever end, but only grows stronger and more true. Both you are and Bruce are true Helpers in the flesh. 

  Will be sending loving thoughts and energy to you as well. Your Spirit/Disk has certainly put you through the ringer this life, but I know it's because you and your Spirit desired to grow a lot in this life, and while that growth might not be clear to you, it's clear to me.  You will grow and attune to PUL even more, and Bruce will continue to help you in that process from the nonphysical.   

  Thank you also for being here at this difficult, challenging cycle and for your service--you're a lovely lady and beautiful, old Soul.   Kiss 


Wow Justin, that was really sweet of you, thank you so much.  I do feel like I have been put through the ringer in this life, emotionally.  And I do believe it's for a reason of soul growth, and yes it's not clear to me at all.  Thanks for your kind words and understanding and PUL.
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Reply #14 - May 10th, 2017 at 2:08am
 
Vicky wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Alan, it's Bruce, and he will have hospice care at home.


At home care among his family and close friends that love him is the best way to pass over

My beloved late Dad was in hospital in his last days, but insisted in being taken home at the end of his life and his passing was was peaceful.My late Dads greatest fear was becoming senile which never happened thank God
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Reply #15 - May 10th, 2017 at 10:18am
 
Hope this doesn't change the subject too much, Don said "I believe God has an exit strategy for each of us."

I once had an experience that basically made the same point.

On a video Howard Storm said that everybody experiences what they need to experience after they die in order to advance. (This doesn't mean that they don't sometimes get stuck someplace for a while.)

PMH Atwater said that NDERs experience what they need to experience, even when they have a negative experience. (she researched over 4,000 NDEs).

So perhaps someone is looking out for us. Smiley
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2017 at 11:02am
 
I too want to thank Bruce for all he did in writing his books and starting this site to help folks like me on a new path of loving and giving PUL.  I will be forever grateful, and for now am sending prayers and loving energy his way.  I am sure the adventure coming his way will be full of many surprises and great joy.   

T'ressa   
PS.  I want to thank you as well, Vicky.  Your wisdom is needed and appreciated.
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Baroness wrote on May 10th, 2017 at 11:02am:
I too want to thank Bruce for all he did in writing his books and starting this site to help folks like me on a new path of loving and giving PUL.  I will be forever grateful, and for now am sending prayers and loving energy his way.  I am sure the adventure coming his way will be full of many surprises and great joy.   

T'ressa   
PS.  I want to thank you as well, Vicky.  Your wisdom is needed and appreciated.
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Reply #18 - May 10th, 2017 at 8:37pm
 
I also want to thank you Bruce for all you are doing and have done.  I echo Don's sentiment and will pray for your healing too.

All the best,

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I have encountered a few Christians who have the gift of healing.  I  am not one of them, though my prayer groups have seen astounding miracles over the years.  Jesus praises faith when he finds it, especially among unrespected Gentiles such as Roman soldiers, but He laments doubt when His disciples' prayers have proven ineffective. 

The truth is that "faith" is just a word and we know very little about the precise state of mind that is ideal for miraculous healings.  I have had troubling experiences when I was asked to pray for a desperate situation and, when I did, I realized that I was either in a skeptical mindset at the time or was immersed in what seemed like "a low state of consciousness."  In such circumstances, I realized I needed a prayer support group; and when I sought it out, our combined prayers proved very effective.  I shudder at that thought that anyone has died or suffered loss because I either didn't pray for them or didn't pray properly. 

I have given 6-hour workshops on the various types of prayer and what makes them effective.  At best I can offer "necessary" but not "sufficient" conditions for the power of prayer, but I realize that, to bridge the gap between these types of conditions involves deeper self-awareness and unrecognized faith principles of which I'm incompetent to speak right now.  So the best I can do is avoid the cop-out of simply placing the needy in God's hand and putting their need out of my mind to avoid the strain of posing the toughest questions to myself.

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Reply #20 - May 11th, 2017 at 12:27am
 
I want to thank each and every one of you for expressing your love and appreciation for Bruce and his work.  It makes me so happy to see all of your posts.

I let Bruce know he needs to check here, see all of this, so I hope he does when he's feeling up to it.   

He let me know that he will be having minor surgery on Thursday May 11, a procedure to insert an abdominal catheter to drain the ascites continually.  For those of you who pray or want to send good vibes and energy, this is a good thing to do that for. 

Bruce, I pray that the procedure goes smoothly, gives you more quality of life for the time you have left here, and that you're as pain-free as possible and have found peace.  I'm sending a big wallop of PUL your way  Kiss

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   I'm not speaking of close, loved ones (and grief etc), but of a person themselves passing: what is wrong with the death of a body?  Why do so many humans not understand or accept that it's more than ok, and what is true healing for a person sometimes?

  This common, persistent belief and attitude in our society of, "we have to keep everyone alive no matter what" is a reflection not of spiritual wisdom and attunement, but of other, limiting things. 

  There is NO death--it's a word without meaning or substance. Only a phasing from one focus/level to another. That's the point. This is one of the things that Bruce came to this world to help bring awareness to. And has done a good job of.
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Reply #22 - May 11th, 2017 at 4:22pm
 
Vicky, do you know or can you find out when the ak website first went online? I'm thinking it was around 1997, but not sure.

Also what happened to Rosalie? Didn't she have a role in creating the website?

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Reply #23 - May 13th, 2017 at 1:36am
 
rondele wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
Vicky, do you know or can you find out when the ak website first went online? I'm thinking it was around 1997, but not sure.

Also what happened to Rosalie? Didn't she have a role in creating the website?

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I asked Bruce and he thinks the site went up in 1995, and yes Rosalie did help create it.  I don't know what happened to her. 

Maybe Bruce will chime in on this thread.

Bruce?   Smiley
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Reply #24 - May 13th, 2017 at 11:51am
 
Thanks Vicky-

I'm pretty sure I joined in 96...doesn't seem possible! The site is a great legacy for Bruce. I hope it continues. I know it takes money.

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Thanks for the site Bruce. I hope your vacation from eternity turned out to be a good one and wish you well wherever you go next.
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Vicky wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Alan McDougall wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
Vicky wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Alan, it's Bruce, and he will have hospice care at home.


Dear Vicky,

I see dear Vicky that you have taken over global moderator of which I know you are going to make a huge success of. And I promise no more negativity from me in the future

Do you know what illness our beloved Bruce is suffering from so that we can hold hands and pray for him


Thank you.  He has liver failure and it's been progressing more rapidly since I last saw him, which was last September, although he's been dealing with it's slow progression over at the last few years. 

When I found out he was applying for hospice care I was very relieved to hear that it will be at home.  I'd hate for him to be away from home especially at the time of his passing.  I want his wife to be by his side too of course, to give both of them the most peace and comfort. 

Bruce knows how grateful I am for having had him in my life, and how much I love him.  It's been extremely painful for me to know he's been getting sicker and is facing his transition.  The depression and stress it's caused me has been unbelievable. 

But, I'm incredibly lucky and grateful to have learned what I know about death and the afterlife!  I know Bruce will be perfectly fine at the moment he crosses over.  I know the joy, love, and amazement he will be feeling.  I know he will be surrounded by loved ones, that he'll feel and know all the love and good thoughts people here have for him, and I know he will be visiting me and anyone else who wants a visit from him.  I'm sure of those things, so that gives me relief and keeps me from falling apart.  I can't imagine not having the knowledge and beliefs I have.  It's why it's so important for us to carry on and pass on what we know, and I've learned SO much from Bruce and his work.  I'm so honored to have the friendship with him that I have. 



Due to my bipolar illness I have insulted Bruce unfairly trying to make him believe what I believe, when in fact I was not positive that I was correct and he was wrong.

Bruce has always forgiven me for my sometimes very harsh attitude in which I dismissed what he said as wrong.

Pass on my blessings to Bruce. I joined this site over 16 years ago but cancelled my account after almost 3,000 posts. So I am a long time member which my present renewed membership does not reflect

God bless

Alan McDougall (Which is my real name)
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Reply #27 - May 21st, 2017 at 8:17pm
 
That's nice of you to say, Alan.  I'm sure Bruce knows how you feel.

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