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Focus 69,

You really will get all of your questions answered, and more, by reading Bruce's Guidebook.  I know you said you are tired of reading, but if he doesn't have an e-book version out (and I don't think he does), then you definitely should just read the book.  You can get the CDs or MP3 that goes with it which is recording of Bruce guiding you through the book's exercises.  I highly recommend the book and the audio.

Many years ago I too had trouble grasping the concept of a Helper.  It took me a long time to get past my confusion and questions.  Maybe this will help give you some perspective on the concept and idea of what a Helper means and how it actually helps you.

Think of a Helper as an actual person who has all the answers that you need.  He's there to answer your questions, guide you, assist you etc.  Think of the idea of such a possibility as being real and true and that you fully accept this idea.  If you can get that far, then the rest is pretty easy. 

Now that you've accepted the idea that "A Helper" is simply there to help you, then it really doesn't matter "what" the helper is or how it works, or if it's real or not real.  We're only going with the idea that help is there if you need it. 

A good way to get acquainted with the idea of a helper is to create one in your mind.  Right now while awake and aware, close your eyes and imagine this "helper".  You can make up what it looks like, sounds like, etc.  Or you can just say to yourself, "I want to have a helper come."  If anything pops into your mind, you can use it as a helper.  It can be a color, an animal, an object, or just a feeling or thought.  The reason why it doesn't matter is because what you're doing is opening yourself up to the idea that you can receive help, guidance, and assistance.  It doesn't matter how you get it, just as long as you receive it. 

An example is, I use what I call my "Guidance" in everyday waking life.  I have had to practice and perfect my use of this "idea" that I have this thing I call Guidance.  You can call it my spirit guide, or an angel, but I tend to think of it as my Higher Self.  But it really doesn't matter to me.  I know what it feels like to me, so I recognize it by it's feeling.  You could say that this feeling to me is a state of consciousness that I recognize as being a true and valid connection with my Higher Self Awareness.  So, when I want to connect with that higher awareness and get comfort, or get questions answered, or get advice, etc., then I am setting my intention to bridge that connection and tune in to receiving what I'm looking for.  Because I've already established that I believe this is so, I can bypass all the needless worry about "Is this real?  Who is helping me?"  The point is, I'm wishing to access information, so therefore I'm going to allow myself to access it. 

Does that help you understand how you can utilize the role of a Helper?  If you want to think of a Helper as an angel, then do so.  If you want to think of a helper as a spirit guide, then do so.  But it really doesn't actually matter. 

While doing a retrieval, let's say you were in a very good, relaxed, deep state of awareness.  Focus 10 or beyond.  Body asleep, mind awake.  Nonphysically exploring and experiencing and doing a retrieval.  Ok, let's say you needed help or got stuck and didn't know what to do next.  Maybe you had a click-out and didn't really know what should happen next.  If you had set the intention of having a Helper come to aid you during this retrieval, then a helper is/was there whether you experienced or remembered it or not.  Even if you had a click-out, a helper was there finishing the retrieval. 

I think you had asked on this thread why Helpers don't just do the retrievals themselves.  This is a great question, and if you read Bruce's books you'll understand.  People who are stuck are not able to see or hear helpers, which is why we are able to help those people who are stuck.  We're better able to get their attention.  Then once you are with them, the helper is able to come into their awareness and be seen and heard. 

I hope that I've explained this in a way that makes sense.  I completely understand all of your questions and why you're asking them, because I was asking the same questions back when I began reading Bruce's books and learning about retrievals. 

You will really enjoy all of his books.  He has a great way of writing and explaining things.  I have also applied the tools and techniques that Bruce teaches to many other things than just retrievals.

Focus 69 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 7:15pm:


I'm also a musician, so as not to give any misunderstanding. This is my bass. There are many like it but this one is mine.

What I play, how I play it is mine, same as the mission work I do. It's mine and it's for everyone. So is it mine? How does the music come through me? Through my body .... Does the music play me or do I play the music? Helpers? I play a helping of JS Bach and top  it off with a rockin' 15 minutes of (Turn On Your) Lovelight.

The instrument doesn't play itself.

^ ginormous clue

HTH (Hope That Helps)

    Re: nonphysical Helpers and how they often have a hard time getting the attention of folks stuck: A lot of it has to do with vibratory levels and the Universal Law of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like. 

     True nonphysical Helpers are very fast vibratory in nature. Folks that are stuck, are temporarily pretty slow vibratory in nature and in are much more "in phase" with the physical Earth and physical energies that are themselves slow vibratory and stuck. 

  Humanity in general is quite stuck.  Just as many physically focused humans have a hard time clearly and directly perceiving nonphysically focused Helpers, so to are those stuck in the "etheric" level, which is only slightly faster vibratory than the physical.

  This is also where classic OBE's take place.  It is a slow vibratory level that is strongly in phase with/similar in vibration to the physical .  Be wary of so called teachers who primarily work in/at this level, for they oft are slow vibratory in nature and oft aren't true teachers/helpers--more so the "guise" of.

  Anyways, back to retrieval:  This is where an aware, mature, service oriented Soul connected to a human body suit comes along and can be of some assistance to the nonphysically focused Helpers.  Because of our connection to a physical body, a slow vibratory level, it is much easier for one of us to be perceived by folks stuck in the etheric level. You can be the most spiritually mature, fast vibratory consciousness around, but if you're directly connected to a human body--well it has a definite "grounding" affect. 

   That which is a similar vibration/wavelength according to the Universal Law of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like, easily and more directly perceives that which is in similar resonation.  This is metaphysics 101. 

    It doesn't just apply to this situation, but many, many situations.  Folks in "Hollow Heavens", which are in the emotional level/range of vibration do not normally perceive those individuals and levels that are faster vibratory and that are phased into the mental or spiritual levels.  The latter can temporarily slow down their vibratory levels some to phase into the emotional level and be more directly perceived, but even then, it's hard for them to be perceived. 

    The above Law and reactions are also why true, real spiritual teachers/Helpers incarnate in human form, are often ignored or outright disliked.  Others can perceive them, at least their physical aspect, because all humans have these slow vibratory bodies in common, and bodies can easily perceive other bodies. 

   But most humans have a hard time perceiveing the inner nature of true spiritual Helpers/Teachers incarnate.  This is why, most of the real ones, don't have any kind of following.  It is primiarlly the moderately fast vibratory and slow vibratory false teachers, that have the biggest crowds.  A more similar resonation with the average human. 

  The most evolved/mature of incarnate Helpers/Retrievers, unless they perform constant miracles like Yeshua, often are ignored, marginalized, minimized, etc by the majority around them.  Even the ones who do get some attention because of the constant perfomring of miracles, like Yeshua, they tend to powerfuly stir up the shadow of others and become extremely and irrationally disliked or even hated by many around them. 

  People see "red" in relation to them and are always trying to get rid of them.  Why?  Vibrational/Consciousness dissonance.  And slow vibratory does not "like" fast vibratory.  Fast vibratory loves all, is all inclusive, but stuck, slow vibratory doesn't tend to react well to very fast vibratory. 

  Plato's allegory of the cave is very apropos here.  Hence why Yeshua was falsely tried, tortured, and murdered. Why?  Simply for speaking truth and being powerfully attuned to PUL.  His powerful and pure channeling of PUL polarized the fear/ego/selfishness levels of humanity, and powerfully stirred up those dark rivers. 

     This is why he cautioned his then and future disciples, and said be sure you really want to follow me, because if you do truly follow in my footsteps, the world and most humans in same, will come to hate and despise you too.  And indeed, most of his disciples who tried hard to follow in his footsteps and attune a lot to PUL, ended up being imprisoned, tortured, and/or murdered themselves. 

Why?  Vibrational dissonance and slow vibratory does not like or abide well fast vibratory.  Same reason why Albert and I have been banned from a number of forums. People cannot abide us, or rather, our unusual attunement to PUL. 

  This is a situation and dream guidance message related to this: Quote:


   The above is why there are some on this board who despise and irrationally dislike Albert and I.  Because we speak truth and are unusually attuned to PUL.  Vibrational dissonance and stirring up of shadows. 

1796 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:30am:


1796,

Ok, obviously I didn't explain it in depth and precisely in a way that anyone can understand all the facets.  I was pointing my reply to someone else, not you with all of your questions as I certainly don't know your level of understanding of the subject matter.

Have you read any of Bruce Moen's books, and/or have you taken any of his workshops?  If you have then you would already have the answers to your questions.  I highly recommend reading all the books in order, including The Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook.  Then if you still have questions we can go more in depth if you're still not understanding certain facets.

I'll try again to go into a little more detail.  It's not that all helpers can't help.  They do.  But some people who are stuck are not able to be aware that the helpers are there. 

You are misguided in your assumption that that means that helpers are helpless and therefore unable to do what should be their job. 

There are many reasons why a person who is stuck in the afterlife is unable to realize and be aware that there are helpers.  Their being stuck is not just happenstance, the luck of the draw, or plain old bad luck.  They are stuck because of their own beliefs.  Beliefs can often distort and block perception, making it even more difficult for them.   

We as physically living people are much closer to their vibration and can more easily get their attention. 

These are indeed great questions, 1796, and like I suggested to Focus 69 and to anyone, please do read Bruce's work so that you can fully understand the topics and terminology and concepts rather than just coming up with question after question.  You may find that the material is something that you are very interested in doing further exploration with on your own, so that you can have your own direct experiences.

And as I've always said too, once you get that far then you will find that the questions you're asking are different than now.  You'll have a much broader perception and understanding of the afterlife.

Vicky

Thanks for responding Vicky.

I did not assume or say the helpers are helpless, though, nor do I think they are helpless. I just posed the question to draw forth the answer. I asked the question for other’s sake, so that you could clarify the matter for them. It is an obvious question for inquirers to ask.

To say the answer is in Bruce’s books is a good idea, but you giving the answer too would be an even better idea, for then forum readers would see the answer and be more likely to want to read more of Bruce’s books.

cb

Morrighan wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:


Then you happily throw them haha ^^