<<I suppose they are like anybody who has false beliefs. They'll let go of them after they find out that they aren't beneficial to have.>>

Oh.  And what, pray tell, do you suggest we do in the meantime, before they see the error of their ways and continue on their killing rampage? How exactly will they find out their beliefs are false and not beneficial?  Platitudes are comforting but reality has a way of intervening in rather unhappy ways.

R

Here is what Jurgen Ziewe experienced on the subject. If accurate, its a far cry from voluptuous virgins.

http://www.unariuswisdom.com/what-happens-to-a-suicide-bomber-on-the-other-side/

I once watched an episode of 60 minutes where two boys were indoctrinated by their father to someday become suicide bombers. These boys spent a lot of time fantasizing about and talking about how beautiful the virgins they will be rewarded with will be. This talk troubled their mother, but their father had the upper hand.

It is a shame that boys who naively trust their ignorant father, might someday experience a fate as Jurgen describes.

Also consider how Souls who incarnate into ignorant racist families often end up being racists.

Sure, some people overcome such brainwashing, but why do some do so while others don't? Perhaps some people have a more advanced Soul history and therefore are more equipped to overcome such adversity. There are probably a combination of factors that tilt a person in one direction rather than the other.


doodad wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:11pm:

I figure that before a Soul incarnates into this World, it has some idea of how things work out. I mean, if a Soul is deciding whether it should incarnate into a racist lifetime, and it finds that many such people end up being racists, why would it get involved with such difficulty just so it ends up in a lower realm some day?

I speak of the racist possibility because one time I had a nonphysical experience where I was in the country (as where farms can be found). This land was occupied by people who were racists while in this World. Black people walked through their farms, the farmers looked at these black people in an angry hateful way, but they couldn't do anything to harm the black people. These racist farmers lost the ability to harm the people they used to harm, and this made them angry.

Going by my experience with retrievals, there seems to be a lot of work that needs to be done. It seems as if lost Souls can be helped easier than Jurgen indicated with his article.

Regarding "it seems" I don't have enough information to say what the details are in a precise way.

On the other hand, what about this experience I shared a while back?

I was out of body and accompanied by a guide. I was flying north above the San Francisco bay and was located East of SF.

I was located a little North of the SF/Oakland Bay Bridge, and I heard that shrieking music that you hear during some horror movies. I went through like a barrier that was within the sky, and it seemed as if I was going to enter lower realms. The only thing I witnessed was this problematic World. I heard a voice say, "There are a lot of rumors." This voice was referring to the afterlife and lower realms.

To be continued, I have to leave now.





seagull wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 7:38pm:

I suppose a person could say something such as "I experienced this during an OBE, so this is truth." But consideringn that different experiencers, whether NDE or OBE don't always find out the same thing, perhaps it is okay to do some supposing.

When I try to figure out how things work after death, I consider what different sources and my differing experiences say. This requires me to consider the possibilities. I do not believe this is a negative thing.


1796 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

Hi, all.
According to Bruce's teachings, I think that the hellish outlook described by the linked article, is only a second stage of terrorists' experience. In a first stage, theyr beliefs should be accomplished and only after a life's review they should  find themselves cast into the hell they deserve to.
What's your thoughts?

1796- what sort of afterlife awaits the hard core athiest?  The person who is convinced that after physical death there is extinction....a state of nothingness.

R

rondele wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am:


It depends on the individual's personality, being his priorities/values, beliefs and mental-emotional-behavioural habits. For many, life goes on as usual. Here is an example. It was my first venture into the afterlife worlds.

https://lacecurtain.wordpress.com/2014/01/10/life-after-death/