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Reply #15 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:53pm
 
  Yes, many.  Some or many seemed to be guidance confirming things about deeper issues. I don't think we manifest events so much as pre agree to certain events (before this life and/or in our nonphysical awareness--especially dream state) and/or our intuition picks up on things ahead of times and so nudges us in certain directions ahead of times.

  But, i agree with Albert that sometimes coincidences are sometimes just that, coincidences. Occasional random events and similarities. 

  Probably the most powerful for me was the following:  Had a dream when 16 about being in a huge library viewing a man i knew to be part of myself in a larger sense. This self/aspect of our larger self was talking to an older, very wise seeming person, who handed this self a book. 

  When this self opened up the book, i as an outside observer and also experienced it as the other man, and we watched a "movie" unfold. As we watched, we became aware that the character in the "movie" was also a part of our larger self. As we watched, we became immersed in it and relived the experience to some extent. 

   It was early pioneer American time period. This past self was a trapper looking white guy, trudging through the forest. A bear mauled him pretty badly, but did not kill him.  A half Native American, half Caucasian healer lady found him and nursed him back to life. The woman seemed unusually psychic/tuned in and could communicate well with animals and nature in general.

   At some point, we disengaged from the scenes and the wise, old man in the "library" closed the "book" and looked at this other self within our Disk, said his last name, and then said, "don't you think you had the knowledge within you at the time?" 

   I remember distinctly the self in the library feeling a sense of almost mild, self critical chagrin (which i felt through him). 

  Fast forward about a decade later, I was new on an astrology forum.  I became friends pretty quickly with a woman on there, whom come to find out we had many coincidences and similarities with.  She was also deeply interested in Edgar Cayce's work, and though we were now living 600 miles apart, she lived about 10 mins. away from where my grandparents lived and where i spent a good chunk of my highschool years living at. 

   About a couple months or so into our online friendship, her husband died from an accident on the job (so it was very out of the blue and sudden for her). They were very close, and she became very despondent and depressed. I felt very strongly that i should try to be there for her and help her through this time. Spent much time on the phone listening to her and trying to focus her away from the intense heaviness.  Would also pray and meditate with her in mind.  I felt an unusually deep and intense sense of duty/obligation to her for some reason. 

    Awhile later, i was planning on making a visit to my home state for family and friends, and we decided to meet up in person since she would be very close to where i would be staying a portion of the time. 

   While we were sitting together in a public place conversing, that dream from a decade ago flooded into my awareness strongly, along with some extra info i didn't remember.  I knew very strongly that my friend was part of the same Soul or rather Spirit that had had the life of the half Native American, half Caucasian healer woman that had nursed my Disk's other self back to life in the dream. What was extra was that i now knew that after this, we had a romantic relationship, and that i ended up hurting her a lot emotionally in that life.

  I didn't know whether or not i should tell about all this, so i decided to just feel it out some first.  I asked her about her views and thoughts towards Native American culture, healing, early pioneer time, etc. After saying she had definite interests in a lot of those areas (and feeling nudged to), i decided to more fully open up (i did not tell her the identity of the man in the library). 

   After telling her all that, i could tell that she was visibly affected.  She took a little time to collect herself, and started telling me that years ago one of her friends and her first spiritual mentor, an older woman, decided to give her a unique birthday gift.  Her older friend was friends with a lady that use to be connected to the A.R.E and use to give past life readings. 

   The sensitive was retired from this, but she called her up and asked her if she would do a reading for our mutual friend.  She agreed and during the reading, two main lives were focused on, one was a Greek life, and the other was when she was a half Native American, half white woman who was a healer and a sensitive during early American pioneer time.  She became involved with a white, Euro man, and he hurt her a lot.  The sensitive said at the end, you two have unfinished business together and will meet again later in this life to work it out. 

    We were both pretty blown away by all of this.  Me more so than even her, because i became aware that these lifetimes were also outlined in Edgar Cayce's work. I was somewhat aware of the trapper guy's life after the dream, but i wasn't fully aware of all the other connections until after this synchronistic event, as i went back to the Readings and delved deeper.  Much of it was very similar.  The only thing that wasn't mentioned in the Cayce Readings, was the English guy getting mauled by a bear.

  It explained why i felt such a strong sense of obligation and responsibility to her, and i think was why we met when we did, not long before her trial of losing her husband. As she had nursed my other self back to life in that past life, i tried to in a sense nurse her back to life this time around.

   Interestingly, after she started to come out of the gloom and depression of that trial, we parted ways on good terms.

  I came away from the experience knowing that karma is very real, and that guidance definitely does use synchronicity at times to confirm/verify information received in other ways. 

  Often, when we first start to wake up to the larger reality at first, we need strong, in our face experiences like these to really receive and accept information we get from our Expanded self and/or Guidance level's.  As we grow and mature, we tend to trust more and become more aware, intuitive, and accepting of the process or of info received. So we tend to need less overt confirmations. 

  Interestingly, when Edgar Cayce's son, Hugh Lynn, had his first Life Reading (which he didn't seek or ask for, but was given as a present), and was told that he had been the Disciple Andrew, he became very upset with his father and also strongly bucked against the idea of reincarnation in general. 

  Over time and some strong experiences and synchronicities of his own, he came to accept reincarnation/karma as truth (as he later sought other Life Readings and also spoke about these concepts some after his father died), and presumably accepted the source(s) of the Readings statement that he had been the disciple Andrew.  Like his father, he also had a very strong attraction to Yeshua as a Teacher.  (Edgar supposedly had been one of the 70 or 72, less Hebrew/more gentile disciples sent out into the gentile world to preach/example in his name).
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Reply #16 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 1:37pm
 
Thanks to all participating -- these are terrific stories and much appreciated.

Justin said:
<Yes, many.  Some or many seemed to be guidance confirming things about deeper issues. I don't think we manifest events so much as pre agree to certain events (before this life and/or in our nonphysical awareness--especially dream state) and/or our intuition picks up on things ahead of times and so nudges us in certain directions ahead of times.>

These are interesting ideas, that we not only pre agree to certain events before this life but, also, in our nonphysical awareness states during our lives, such as dream states.
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Reply #17 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 3:38pm
 
  I should probably add that it probably depends on the individual to some extent. If say you're a less mature Soul incarnating here, you probably don't have a lot of specific goals and tasks to work on. 

   You're probably more, "anything goes" and want to experience the randomness of the physical. Kind of like a kid in a candy store or Chuck E Cheese, constantly distracted by new scents, colors, sounds etc.

  But as you grow and become more organized, coherent, your spiritual will and focus becomes stronger, you may opt for lives that are more purpose driven and oriented. You start to tune out the noise and distractions, and focus more on growth and service.

Greater planning and creating more mutual inter-contracts goes on before you incarnate.  Such a Soul will tend to experience more meaningful synchronicity both because of the greater degree of planning and organization that went on before their life, and because they also pay attention more to such developments and patterns (being more aware/perceptive in general), as sign posts along the way.

   So it's probably relative to the individual to an extent.   

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Reply #18 - Oct 13th, 2015 at 11:46am
 
1796, after a 2hr emotional meeting at work today I appreciate both having read and reading your post again about emotions/emotionalism. Managed to contain my own emotions as not to fuel the fire, but want more (self) control and remembered you have written detailed posts about this in your blog.

"By training our self to be conscious of the first stirrings of our emotions at the point of likes and dislikes, wants/not wants, desires for or against, unfounded preferences one way or another, then not only are we able to check or quell emotions as required, we also learn to appreciate emotions without them having to develop into full swing before we are aware of them, which is how most people are because most people don’t realise that emotions initially stir as likes and dislikes before they become full swing emotions. Pretty soon we can become conscious of the most subtle stirrings of our emotional nature and regulate it accordingly with objective observation and application of reason. This is another way in which we are learning to fine tune our awareness and position our conscious controlling self back in its rightful seat at the centre of our being."

Thank you, it's really helpful.
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Reply #19 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:03am
 
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1796, after a 2hr emotional meeting at work today I appreciate both having read and reading your post again about emotions/emotionalism. Managed to contain my own emotions as not to fuel the fire, but want more (self) control and remembered you have written detailed posts about this in your blog.

"By training our self to be conscious of the first stirrings of our emotions at the point of likes and dislikes, wants/not wants, desires for or against, unfounded preferences one way or another, then not only are we able to check or quell emotions as required, we also learn to appreciate emotions without them having to develop into full swing before we are aware of them, which is how most people are because most people don’t realise that emotions initially stir as likes and dislikes before they become full swing emotions. Pretty soon we can become conscious of the most subtle stirrings of our emotional nature and regulate it accordingly with objective observation and application of reason. This is another way in which we are learning to fine tune our awareness and position our conscious controlling self back in its rightful seat at the centre of our being."

Thank you, it's really helpful.


I am pleased for you that it has been helpful.

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Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:52pm
 
Actually, regarding exchanging past hardships for old ignorance, I would be okay with that, under a variety of circumstances. Some hardships are avoidable and hardship is very often not helpful at all, especially if prolonged. So, no, I'm not sure that personal exposure to hardship is always a good thing.

Victory, well, I'm all for that. Personal victory is something only you can define for yourself. I think there is a lot of fearmongering among the afterlife community regarding the afterlife review, and how we experience the hardships that we inflict on others during our individual life reviews. It is said to be very unpleasant at times, although we are to be escorted through it with a loving spirit guide. But, do they leave out the fact that we are all survivors? Even from day one, anyone who survives in this world has my respect.
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Reply #21 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:22pm
 
Like everyone I have experienced a wide variety of hardship, and through my work I have met with those who have experienced the most. I could tell hundreds of stories of horrific human sufferings, every word true, and would achieve nothing more than to get myself banned from this forum because those stories are too ugly and offensive to be believed or tolerated by "good" people. I have witnessed over and over again, without exception, that those who learn and grow the most are those who forgive, and who extract the lessons from the experience, and are thankful in their heart for those lessons. 
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Reply #22 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:48am
 
Of course. Nevertheless, I'm sure not one of them would like to participate in those hardships again, nor would they want any other person to suffer in that way if there is a better solution to a problem. That is the very definition of compassion.

I think there is a lot of merit to placing value on one's experiences, but it can be carried too far.

It may be possible to remove traumatic memories, or to adjust the level of awareness of them by various means. There is no harm in that.

Some people are more fragile than others, so it is really unfair to place a burden on them which is more than they can handle successfully. There are many circumstances in which we must make allowances for others in order to create a better outcome for all.

Just a few thoughts, although your statement was convincing.
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Reply #23 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 5:54pm
 
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  This probably is why direct, literal reincarnation of a self back to earth seems much less common than multiple Disk projections of relatively new selves.

  I suspect that those, especially those more sensitive and aware, feel after directly experiencing them, that earth-human lives tend to be rather difficult and challenging, and it's not something these will engage in lightly again.

  Unless you're one of the oblivious, earth-material power/hedonist addicts that cycle in and out constantly.
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Reply #24 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 9:49pm
 
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  Unless you're one of the oblivious, earth-material power/hedonist addicts that cycle in and out constantly. 

he he he he he pfffart, like me.

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Reply #25 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:53pm
 
Hopefully being reconnected with Source, God, however you put it, is the most fulfilling way of being there is. What's the alternative? Golf?  Smiley
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Reply #26 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 2:29pm
 
Albert, sadly I must decline your offer, too busy creating. Happy though to inform you that there are other viable options for golf and/or tennis.

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Reply #27 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:32pm
 
But what if you walk the entire race, and then you get disqualified for illegal form at the end?

I have a history as a Track and Field fan.

When Vicky mentioned a runner's name in her book, I knew who that runner is (not personally).

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Reply #28 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:40pm
 
  Ime, it can be difficult to separate and discern, at times, the difference between our Disk's other selves/projections and our own literal repeats. 

   For example, that library dream that i mentioned earlier. When i had that dream almost 20 years ago, i wasn't consciously aware of the Disk and Disk process. For awhile, i thought i was the literal reincarnation of that fellow in the library, and that he was the literal reincarnation of that fellow in the movie, the early American trapper/militia type.

  A few years later, i had a dream where that fellow in the library and myself, were sitting together in the back of a car heading to or from VA beach.  Someone or something else was driving.  He seemed really familiar and we seem very connected to each other, and i got the sense that he was a guide to me.

  It confused me, because like i said, i thought i was the literal reincarnation of him. But my dream was saying that i wasn't and that we were distinct individuals, and he was still very much "him" in the nonphysical.

  Just shortly after, i became aware of Bruce Moen and his info. And around this same time, i asked a sensitive if i was the reincarnation of the fellow in these two dreams.  She replied interestingly, "Yes, but not in the way that you have previously thought." 

     I was just starting to open up my mind to the Disk concept and process, and her answer made sense and seemed to confirm it.  What also confirmed it was a dream wherein i saw Bruce Moen's face morphing into Bob Monroe's and back again to settle on Bruce's.  The dream was telling me that they were strongly connected, but still distinct individuals.  (this was not so much to confirm Bruce's personal claims about his connection to Monroe, but to confirm his info about Disks in general).

     Even within our own Disk, we may be more energetically connected with some selves than others.  Those that we are strongly connected to energetically, or through working out related karma--it's not uncommon to feel that we were them in a past life.  While that's possible, it's also just as possible, and i would say probably more probable on average, that we are distinct individuals that are very energetically and/or karmically connected. 

  Ultimately, all selves within a Disk are One and part of each other, just as all Disks and selves are all part of Source, the Disk of Disks.



   
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Reply #29 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:44pm
 
  Also, there are always exceptions to the rule, or is it, the exceptions tend to prove the rule..?
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