Don:
It is fine that you don't trust my judgment on afterlife experiences.
But how about Howard Storm's? If you go by what he wrote, God hates war, and it is never acceptable to go to war, there is always another choice. Yet, Bush and Cheney were overly quick to do so. They allowed torture to happen during their presidency, and still express no regret about doing so. How is this an example of integrity? How is this an example of loving your neighbor as yourself?
If you can't see where Bush and Cheney are coming from, then it's no surprise that you can't see where I am coming from.
Regarding Bush's religion, thank you for clearing that up. I was uncertain about what denomination he follows.
Regarding 911 conspiracy theories, I don't get the feeling that either you or Rondelle have considered them enough to see if there is any validity to them. Instead you just sweep them under the carpet in a manner that is similar to the manner you accuse new agers of having.
Fact number 1: 911 happened during Bush's presidency.
Fact number 2: There are enough puzzling factors about the event to make it worth questioning.
Fact number 3: It is morally irresponsible (and perhaps foolish) to not try to determine what precisely happened.
But if a person isn't open to changing his world view, he probably won't do so.
Berserk2 wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 3:58pm:Rondele,
You are the voice of reason in an appalling demonstration of the antithesis of Pure Unconditional Love. I am now Democratic in my political leanings, largely because I see the desperate plight of so many homeless families who need remedial programs that churches can only provide to a limited extent. But despite my disagreements with George W. Bush, I consider him a man of the highest integrity and agree with you that his haters display their dirty linen by their obvious refusal to give him the benefit of the doubt. Such guttersniping conspiracy theories are precisely what I would expect from the New Age Ghetto and are constantly displayed on George Noory's the New Age radio program "Coast to Coast" (e. g. all the Illuminati paranoia). GW is a United Methodist, not a Fundamentalist, and United Methodists realize that the Babylon image in biblical apocalyptic is a symbol of Rome, and not of the ancient empire centered in what is now Iraq. To blame GW for the Iraq invasion on the basis of such ignorant apocalyptic nonsense is uneducated and mean-spirited nonsense. This nonsense reveals the mindset of key denizens of this site and is just one reason why I no longer trust recoverer's judgment or interpretations of his experiences of the afterlife.