Lucy wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 6:13am:

Perhaps.

Perhaps not.

If remote viewing would work, I would have expected someone to find Kennedy's murder or at least figure out how Oswald could fire with a malfunctioning rifle and get bulls-eye hits at a moving target over an impossible distance.

Or perhaps the astral hides and shields some information?

Which I think is the most likely, so the astral doesn't interfere too much with the physical. After all, we are here to experience the physical, and taking short routes through the Akashic or RVing are probably stopped.

Many OBE:ers have witnessed that they have seen and been allowed to reveal amazing things, just to hear their guides say that they will not be allowed to remember anything when going back to the physical.

Paulieffect wrote:"The Towers collapse as if nothing is in the way, nothing stops or supports the building, as all inner walls that carries weight have been blown to pieces.

Haven't it struck you that the Towers fall with free-fall speed. If there was anything supporting the collapsing Towers, the falling speed would have slowed down as some of the height energy had to be transferred into deformation energy.

But you see no such slow-down!

Fall with free fall speed.

Look at it."

Andy B responds: The problem I have is I haven't seen any other buildings that have been hit by airliners which have then collapsed afterwards, so other than the WTC there is nothing to compare to, other than controlled demolitions which from the ones that I've seen are accompanied by extremely loud explosions. The WTC was missing this which I think is very important, they wouldn't be drowned out by the collapse either it would be the other way around.

rondele wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

Maybe you don't understand me?

Hi Justin,

"We Americans must be some of the most gullible, head in the sand (or up our arses), imperceptive people on the Planet to buy into this constantly fed crap full of Lies Pie."

It seems to be common traits of citizens all over the globe, but it's very visible with amerika due to the dominant position as a country, but I've said enough about that. I've also been fortunate to communicate with lots of excellent Americans, and a reasonable guess is that there are a lot of you guys.

When it comes to the article Justin provided, the below stands out.  Regarding why they would shoot a guy that has a lot of information, perhaps he has information that is unfavorable to some of the insiders.

"The White House has also had to abandon the story that President Obama and his national security team watched tensely as events unfolded in real time (despite the White House having released photos of the team watching tensely), with the operation conveyed into the White House by cameras on the SEALs helmets. If Obama was watching the event as it happened, he would have noticed, one would hope, that there was no firefight and, thus, would not have told the public that bin Laden was killed in a firefight. Another reason the story had to be abandoned is that if the event was captured on video, every news service in the world would be asking for the video, but if the event was orchestrated theater, there would be no video."

Regarding the economy, maybe they think the oil and lithium in Iraq might help "some" out financially. When the economy is bad, I doubt the big shots get hurt. I once watched a 60 minutes episode about companies that use supercomputers to invest in the market. They basically control when specific stock prices go up and down. Despite all of the market problems during the past few years, they've never had a week or a year where their investments went down. Small time investors tend to incur losses, not the big shots.

If George W. Bush actually is an Evangelical Christian, and believes in the rapture, the attached article shows another reason he might've been interested in Iraq. It might be a matter of trying to get Biblical prophecy to become true (Or anyway, a particular interpretation of Prophecy. A lot of scholars don't believe that the book of revelations is futuristic.). Some people are very attached to the idea of the rapture happening. The question is, what era are the attached verses of the Bible speaking of. Below is one relevant verse.

"The Bible warns the prophecies against Iraq (Babylon) will be fulfilled in 3 Phases . . .


PHASE 1:  Iraq (Babylon) would be invaded and conquered by a coalition of many nations led by a nation and leader from "a far country"... "the end of heaven" (the opposite side of the Earth)  ... This Bible prophecy does not describe the Persian (and Medes) invasion of Babylon when Cyrus the Great conquered Babylon in 539 BC (the Persians diverted the Euphrates river and entered Babylon through the river bed gates on the night of October 12 without damaging the city ... many of the citizens did not even know they had been conquered for several days) ...

But, this Bible prophecy does (very accurately and remarkably) describe the Gulf War I + Gulf War II invasions of Iraq (Babylon) ... and remember, Saddam Hussein even described himself as the new Nebuchadnezzar (the famous ruler of ancient Babylon) ..."

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Nations%20Iraq.html



Andy B wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 9:19am:

<<Perhaps when you defend what Bush and Cheney have done>>

What exactly are you saying I'm defending?  Please clarify.

R

I'm defending their basic right to be innocent until proven guilty.

I'm certainly not defending what they are being charged with on this thread....i.e. murdering thousands of people.

R