Oh, also from Rondelle's last 40 posts.

"First, a general statement: I don't drink the kool-aid that so many of you do.  I was taught to use critical thinking."

If somebody such as Doc, Bruce, Vicky, Justin, Don (despite his rudeness and contempt for new agers) wrote that they saw an airplane fly into the White House I'd be inclined to believe he or she.

But Rondelle, he often comes off as a wise guy (smart aleck), and a wise guy, just for the fun of it, might claim that he saw an airplane fly into the Pentagon so he can see how the discussion continues.

Well, I'm glad you guys are having fun with my thread.  But really, I just wanted to know where Bin Ladin might be now, and if anyone has seen him. 

Goes to show (from the past days comments) how hard it is to be non-judgemental, doesn't it?  That's what everybody here says we should be, but it's harder to walk the walk than talk the talk.

PauliEffect:

It sounds like you received symbolic informaton about Bin Laden. The key is to figure out what the symbology means.

A couple of nights ago I had a dream with Bin Laden. I won't go into all of the details, but at the end we looked at each other and I looked at him in a way that showed love and no judgment. Despite what some might think, I'd look at George W. Bush the same way.

One impression I got from my dream is that there are beings of love and light who even though they don't approve of some of the things Bin Laden did, they have no judgment towards him. The feelings of unconditional love I experienced during the dream seemed pretty authentic.

I have received thousands of messages from spirits,  and going by what my experience has shown me, it is definitely possible that Pauli Effect received messages from spirits with good intent. They probably sent him information they considered to be most appropriate.

recoverer wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:22pm:


  The highlighted part of your post reminds me of many accounts in various "spiritual" and nonphysical literature about the whole "life process review" which is over seen by what different people describe as "Elders", completed Beings, androgynous super wise/aware/loving Beings, etc. etc.

   It's interesting to note that they help less mature Souls to become aware of their errors, by gently pointing these out during the review process and asking things like, "do you think you could have done better?"

  One might think that is "judgmental" of these Beings, and who are they to judge what is error or what is not or even more to point it out.  If PUL is unconditional, then can a PUL attuned consciousness even see or perceive error in others, or in general?

   But i have come to realized that there is a difference between what we know of as common judgment and being judgmental, and of pointing out lack or errors from an impersonal and PUL attuned state and an intent to be helpful to the greater good.

Using these Elder Beings as an example, it's also common to hear that these Beings feel love and concern for the Souls during the whole time of their life review, both when they are highlighting the wise and spiritual parts of a person's life and the things they could work on. 

  I'm sure Bin Laden will get a mix of the above, like most.  Hopefully it will inspire him to positive change and work on self. 

   Somewhat related, but different, are the accounts of Yeshua life and changing teaching style.  Most often he seems like a pretty gentle, laid back kind of guy, very accepting and often ignores people's criticisms of him and negativity shown his way. 

  But there are other accounts wherein he either shows anger (pretty rarely though), or criticizes strongly some of his fellow humans.  He said some pretty strong things to some of the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes.

  In some cases, this was in obvious defense of another person or group of people.  For example, the woman about to be stoned for adultery.  He turns their typical, personal, and selfishly sourced judgment back on them, and makes everyone aware of their own errors.

  Was he being typically judgmental as we so often find in human interactions, or was it something else?  We are told by various sources, both non religious and religious that he was an extremely PUL attuned person.

  Maybe there is more to PUL than always being nicey nicey, pleasant, and totally accepting of certain ways, expressions, and activities?  For me, the difference lays primarily in one's intent, how you view and feel about the person as a whole, and whether in defense of others, principles or truth is involved in an impersonal and non selfish or self reactive way. 

  It does seem like the latter kind of judgment is very rare when speaking of physical Earth and human interaction though.

Berserk2,

"Thanks for being the voice of reason in a sea of New Age quackdoodle, the same sea in which callers repeatedly show themselves immersed in George Noory's New Age show, "Coast to Coast," a program on which analogous mindless conspiracies regularly fester the airwaves."

They fester the airwaves of free speech, and you choose to row your boat on that sea.

"Strange, that your detractors are too blind to see the obvious hatespeech implicit in the ant-Bush screed. As if the gullible charge of mass murder is not hate speech!"

Dissent, the same way you reserve your right to speak up about the new age ghetto. Another facet of gullible is when very obvious dark pathers are hailed as heroes.

"This thread illustrates why New Age crowing about PUL is so ironic.  True love allows the benefit of the doubt in the absence of evidence that engages the public attention of rivals who would want to know, but are too rational to concoct fables."

Turning the other cheek is basically about being unconditional. You may turn the cheek to someone others might not do, but the new age spook seems to haunt the living daylight out of you.

The number of how many believe they are bodies when viewing the world as a whole is a poll I won't be doing, so the assumption is the overwhelming majority. For me it's the greatest "conspiracy" in the history of the earth, yet for others it's a concocted fable and are content with the idea of pushing daisies.