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Reply #375 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
  I have to laugh a bit, because while "Justine" was meant as an insult, i don't consider it as such.  In fact, a friend of mine who was gay while he was in-physical (he died somewhat recently in a motorcycle crash), occasionally called me Justine in both a joking and somewhat affectionate way.  While we didn't always see eye to eye on things (he was much more materialistic than i), he knew that i was unusually in touch with my inner Feminine/Yin side for a man in general, but especially so for a straight man. Deep down, he admired that in me, and that i have (usually, not always) a lot of empathy, receptivity, and gentleness.

    I see much strength and positivity in women and the Feminine side of reality.  Most of the people i have been closest to in this life, have been women, starting with my Mother whom i was very close with. 

But above all, i see true strength in balance and integration.  The closer we come in attunement to PUL and our own inner Sourceness, the more we start to merge and blend between these, which is why when Bob Monroe asked to meet the most mature human living in his time/space reference, he came upon a person he at first could only think of as He/She. At first, he could not tell whether this person was male or female--It felt like both simultaneously (because he was perceiving this being in seeming human form more nonphysically than purely physically).

   
   Often, when we have friction with others, dislike them, etc, if we get involved in debates with these people, and that person uses mostly impersonal, holistic logic to cut through our limited or distorted beliefs, we become irrationally angry with these folks and feel the need to tear them down and make it personal.  It's a combo of insecurity and a sense of powerlessness, because our self defensive, selfish side as been affronted and can't respond in a holistically logical and impersonal way. 

  We see this with the debates between Yeshua and the Pharisees, Sadduccees, and Scribes. Time and time again, he used their own sources and holistic logic against their false, limiting and distorted beliefs, and all they could do was see red and call him the ancient Hebrew equivalent of "you stupid poo poo head".  Well actually, these self proclaimed religious/spiritual authorities said much worse and said things like he was insane, possessed, evil, etc.   All because he was attuned to Love and truth, and channeled and spoke a higher truth than they could perceive, let alone understand or agree with. 

   Occasionally he used strong words towards them, "You brood of Vipers" etc, because he very much disliked how they were misusing their influence and authority to mislead and/or take advantage of people.

   In academic debate, you stick to the data and logic, and you use established, credible sources combined with your own original thought and holistic, well outlined logic to propose concepts or find the weaknesses in current or prevailing beliefs or theories. 

   Consistently we do not see 1796 use these methods. His only source and credentials ever in these "debates" is his own opinions, interpretations, and self propped up authority.  No wonder why he must resort to name calling, personal pot shots, and low blows. 

  This says some about him, and especially his own insecurity and lack of attunement to PUL. 
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Reply #376 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 6:55pm
 
Alan-

The more people feel alienated from society, the more they are tempted to indulge in fantasies such as reptilians or that 9/11 was a plot engineered by the government.  Or that no plane crashed into the Pentagon that terrible day.  They are like children who hear a bump in the night and imagine all kinds of monsters lurking in the closet.  But unlike children, who grow up and put such fantasies behind them, they remain unable to see over the horizon. 

Arguing with them is pointless.  It's best for all folks to just let it go.  Silence carries a powerful message.

R
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Reply #377 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm
 
The following often applies to Rondele as well, Quote:
His only source and credentials ever in these "debates" is his own opinions, interpretations, and self propped up authority.  No wonder why he must resort to name calling, personal pot shots, and low blows. 


  We once had quite a discussion on here about 9/11 and all the various holes and issues with the authorities official explanation.  Those that care more about truth, holistic logic, etc would easily see through those various holes.  The side arguing for the official explanation, primarily Hawkeye and Rondele, seemed to have a very hard time sticking to the facts, but consistently engaged in what i call the "Fox News" method--try to assassinate the character of the one you're debating with, rather than sticking to facts, evidence, logic, etc. 

  It really wasn't much of an intellectual debate--it was very one sided, with one side posting various facts, evidence, which is quite damning to the official explanation and the other side ignoring all those, and using derogatory names and labels in return.  Repeating the same things over and over like, *only crazy people believe in these conspiracies*.   

   Btw, Rondele, what do you do or use to do for work, if you don't mind me asking? 

  And would you be willing to actually debate impersonally and logically point for point, universally accepted evidence that relates to 9-11, because i'm game if you are, course in in the off topic section?  You'll have a lot of questions and "coincidences" to answer for though. 

rondele wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
Alan-

The more people feel alienated from society, the more they are tempted to indulge in fantasies such as reptilians or that 9/11 was a plot engineered by the government.  Or that no plane crashed into the Pentagon that terrible day.  They are like children who hear a bump in the night and imagine all kinds of monsters lurking in the closet.  But unlike children, who grow up and put such fantasies behind them, they remain unable to see over the horizon. 

Arguing with them is pointless.  It's best for all folks to just let it go.  Silence carries a powerful message.

R
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Reply #378 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:52pm
 
I'd like to add to Doc's post with what I shared with Rondelle on another post.

"You have heard the law that says, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you  will be acting as true children of your father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as you Father in heaven is perfect."

Matthew 6:43-48.

1796, I find it sad that you speak as you do and then at other times speak of Jesus. You can justify and rationalize your ways all you want, but don't expect too many people to be fooled with such attempts. If you do in fact believe that Justin is deluded in some way, why don't you respond to him with compassion, rather than with meaness. Just for the fun of it, would you go to a mental hospital and start poking fun at people? I believe it is quite sick that a person takes pleasure in poking fun at others.

I do not believe Justin is deluded, but if he were, I'd rather be deluded than mean-hearted.


DocM wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:38am:
Justine?  "Prick?"  Yes 1796. It is all very clear now why you agree with some of the more negative posts on the board.  Birds of a feather flock together. A person alive with the love of Christ and God does not talk this way.  I wonder if you know how often you are coming off as mean and arrogant?  On second thought I don't think you care. 

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Reply #379 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:40pm
 
rondele wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
Alan-

The more people feel alienated from society, the more they are tempted to indulge in fantasies such as reptilians or that 9/11 was a plot engineered by the government.  Or that no plane crashed into the Pentagon that terrible day.  They are like children who hear a bump in the night and imagine all kinds of monsters lurking in the closet.  But unlike children, who grow up and put such fantasies behind them, they remain unable to see over the horizon. 

Arguing with them is pointless.  It's best for all folks to just let it go.  Silence carries a powerful message.

R


Agreed, another myth that really, really angers me is that the beautiful and very fit Michelle Obama is a man or a transvestite.

Or that President Obama is gay and has slept with thousands of men contracting aids on the way.


I could throttle idiots like that if I could get my hands over their skinny necks.

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Reply #380 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:46pm
 
recoverer wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:52pm:
I'd like to add to Doc's post with what I shared with Rondelle on another post.

"You have heard the law that says, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you  will be acting as true children of your father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as you Father in heaven is perfect."

Matthew 6:43-48.

1796, I find it sad that you speak as you do and then at other times speak of Jesus. You can justify and rationalize your ways all you want, but don't expect too many people to be fooled with such attempts. If you do in fact believe that Justin is deluded in some way, why don't you respond to him with compassion, rather than with meaness. Just for the fun of it, would you go to a mental hospital and start poking fun at people? I believe it is quite sick that a person takes pleasure in poking fun at others.

I do not believe Justin is deluded, but if he were, I'd rather be deluded than mean-hearted.


DocM wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:38am:
Justine?  "Prick?"  Yes 1796. It is all very clear now why you agree with some of the more negative posts on the board.  Birds of a feather flock together. A person alive with the love of Christ and God does not talk this way.  I wonder if you know how often you are coming off as mean and arrogant?  On second thought I don't think you care. 



Has this forum become a Christian fundamentalist site where it is OK to convert one to your beliefs?

There are members of the Jewish faith and those that favor Buddhism etc maybe even pagans.

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Reply #381 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:54pm
 
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  Alan, i did not mean that i thought you should completely leave this place, but rather that putting some of that energy that you're putting into posting, might do more good if you re-direct into other activities like deep prayer/meditation. 

That's all i was trying to say.  I hope that you stay subscribed and still post.

   I've gone through periods where i was not that centered or balanced and posted on here, and ended up regretting it, because i occasionally said things that were hurtful to others.  The best thing for me then, was taking a break, and recentering myself through prayer, meditation, walking in the woods, etc.  I'm in no position to judge you Alan, and wasn't trying to put you down in any way, but trying to nudge you in a different direction, as i could have used some nudging at those points in my life.   

   


You are actually telling me to do, something I know with absolute certainty you never do yourself , go to God/Jesus in prayer and meditation. In fact, I really doubt if there are any woods near your home to walk around in

Hypocrisy does not fit well with me at all.

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Reply #382 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 9:52pm
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
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  Alan, i did not mean that i thought you should completely leave this place, but rather that putting some of that energy that you're putting into posting, might do more good if you re-direct into other activities like deep prayer/meditation. 

That's all i was trying to say.  I hope that you stay subscribed and still post.

   I've gone through periods where i was not that centered or balanced and posted on here, and ended up regretting it, because i occasionally said things that were hurtful to others.  The best thing for me then, was taking a break, and recentering myself through prayer, meditation, walking in the woods, etc.  I'm in no position to judge you Alan, and wasn't trying to put you down in any way, but trying to nudge you in a different direction, as i could have used some nudging at those points in my life.   

   


You are actually telling me to do, something I know with absolute certainty you never do yourself , go to God/Jesus in prayer and meditation. In fact, I really doubt if there are any woods near your home to walk around in

Hypocrisy does not fit well with me at all.



  Alan, i prayed to God, Jesus, and those at one with these, and meditated today with you in mind, sending you Love, healing energy, and asking these to help me with this.  I started approximately around 4:10 pm EST and in between my full time and part time jobs.

   Btw, i happen to live close to two parks, live on a private, dirt road and have a lot of trees in my yard and around me.  I also somewhat frequently go backpacking for a couple to few days in or near a National Forest (much more during the cooler seasons though). 

  It seems your remote viewing abilities aren't very accurate when it comes to me.  That's ok though, remote viewing is not really all that important in the grand scheme of things.  Neither is image or impressing people.

 
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Reply #383 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 10:14pm
 
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Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
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  Alan, i did not mean that i thought you should completely leave this place, but rather that putting some of that energy that you're putting into posting, might do more good if you re-direct into other activities like deep prayer/meditation. 

That's all i was trying to say.  I hope that you stay subscribed and still post.

   I've gone through periods where i was not that centered or balanced and posted on here, and ended up regretting it, because i occasionally said things that were hurtful to others.  The best thing for me then, was taking a break, and recentering myself through prayer, meditation, walking in the woods, etc.  I'm in no position to judge you Alan, and wasn't trying to put you down in any way, but trying to nudge you in a different direction, as i could have used some nudging at those points in my life.   

   


You are actually telling me to do, something I know with absolute certainty you never do yourself , go to God/Jesus in prayer and meditation. In fact, I really doubt if there are any woods near your home to walk around in

Hypocrisy does not fit well with me at all.



  Alan, i prayed to God, Jesus, and those at one with these, and meditated today with you in mind, sending you Love, healing energy, and asking these to help me with this.  I started approximately around 4:10 pm EST and in between my full time and part time jobs.

   Btw, i happen to live close to two parks, live on a private, dirt road and have a lot of trees in my yard and around me.  I also somewhat frequently go backpacking for a couple to few days in or near a National Forest (much more during the cooler seasons though). 

  It seems your remote viewing abilities aren't very accurate when it comes to me.  That's ok though, remote viewing is not really all that important in the grand scheme of things.  Neither is image or impressing people.

 


You know what Justin I have been going through a long spell or profound irritation/anger, for no apparent reason and by calculating the time differences, between us at that very moment noticed a release/relief from the inner tension and  suddenly felt it lift off me and feel much more at peace with myself

I am sure you kind altruistic act had more that just something, it was the source f goodness emanating from your soul to my troubled soul and for his I am profoundly grateful to you Justin!!

Keep up the good work

God Bless

Alan
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Reply #384 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 10:53pm
 
  Thank you Alan for the kind words.  I believe the majority of us are here to serve and help each other in this process of life and spiritual growth.

  This world, and these human bodies are quite a challenge to our sensitive Souls and Spirits that are used to much  more harmony, and because of these outer storms and this challenge, i don't tend to take too much too personally nowadays, and i know you didn't really mean some of the other stuff.  I consider you a brother and in an universal sense, a friend Alan.
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Reply #385 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 11:29pm
 
  I should add that the Sun in the last week or so, has been waking up out of it's slumber and inactivity. 

  Whenever the Sun starts to experience large Sunspots, earth directed CME's, strong solar wind, etc, i tend to feel off, tired, and become more easily frustrated than i normally would.
 
  I've noticed a lot of people around me (at home, at work) have been feeling and seeming more irritated and tired than norm in the last week, and especially last couple of days. 

  I've been following these patterns for many years now, and it never fails to amaze how often there is a correlation with strong Solar activity and greater degree of frazzledness, irritability, unexplained tiredness, etc.

  Because the Earth's magnetic field has been steadily weakening in recent times, even more minor Solar activity has greater effects than it would when Earth has a strong magnetic field.   

   And very cool, there is a giant, Earth facing Sunspot right now that is in the shape of a heart! 

http://www.spaceweather.com/

  Another good source for Solar stuff and understanding, is the Youtube channel Suspicious Observer.
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Reply #386 - Apr 15th, 2016 at 12:37am
 
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Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
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  Alan, i did not mean that i thought you should completely leave this place, but rather that putting some of that energy that you're putting into posting, might do more good if you re-direct into other activities like deep prayer/meditation. 

That's all i was trying to say.  I hope that you stay subscribed and still post.

   I've gone through periods where i was not that centered or balanced and posted on here, and ended up regretting it, because i occasionally said things that were hurtful to others.  The best thing for me then, was taking a break, and recentering myself through prayer, meditation, walking in the woods, etc.  I'm in no position to judge you Alan, and wasn't trying to put you down in any way, but trying to nudge you in a different direction, as i could have used some nudging at those points in my life.   

   


You are actually telling me to do, something I know with absolute certainty you never do yourself , go to God/Jesus in prayer and meditation. In fact, I really doubt if there are any woods near your home to walk around in

Hypocrisy does not fit well with me at all.



  Alan, i prayed to God, Jesus, and those at one with these, and meditated today with you in mind, sending you Love, healing energy, and asking these to help me with this.  I started approximately around 4:10 pm EST and in between my full time and part time jobs.

   Btw, i happen to live close to two parks, live on a private, dirt road and have a lot of trees in my yard and around me.  I also somewhat frequently go backpacking for a couple to few days in or near a National Forest (much more during the cooler seasons though). 

  It seems your remote viewing abilities aren't very accurate when it comes to me.  That's ok though, remote viewing is not really all that important in the grand scheme of things.  Neither is image or impressing people.

 


What, Justin! And you called him Jesus in your above post. "Alan, i prayed to God, Jesus,"... Instead of the name Yeshua!?, no doubt retrieved from Mel Gibsons movie "Passion of The Christ", which you have watched(maybe multiple times). Have a good Day. Gman   
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