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Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:34am
 
Michael Jackson has been kinda popular on this board lately especially because of who he was.

I was a big fan but I have been delving into this exploring the Afterlife as well.

So I had this dream last night about him. He was in a very beautiful place. But there were people all around him. He couldn't walk so there were people helping him walk around outside.

He was still pretty out of it. He still looked pretty weak but stronger than he had been.

Then I got flashes of a playground and there were children around him. He started to get very happy.

It was like the children were ecstatic to see him. And his whole attitude changed.

Then I woke up.

I guess my questions are....

1. Is there a possibility that I "visited" him?

2. And how do you know that you "visit" someone vs. just having a dream?

Please weigh in and thanks for your responses Wink
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 12:12pm
 
I would also like to add that when Michael was surrounded by the children, I don't think I was watching the event in "real time".

I think 'someone' was showing me what was to come because I saw it in flashbacks. And the Michael that was surrounded by the children was the Michael that was 21 years old agin.

I'm really curious as to what you all think!

(Supermodel patiently waits for responses...) Grin
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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 1:55pm
 
Hi SuperModel,

That was a lovely experience -- many thanks for sharing it!
You've been putting your consciousness into both his situation and the afterlife in general, so it seems you set your intent for this without formally doing so. Your Guidance felt you were ready for such contact and provided you the opportunity. 

You were seeing him in his prime and you are aware that time was changing --  Smiley You were aware of the love being shown him. -- All 'benchmarks' of afterlife experience!
I think you got it!  Congratulations !!

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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 2:47pm
 
I too have had a lot of wondering going on when it comes to understanding whether an experience is of my own mind exclusively (dream or daydream) or if I have been given something beyond that. I'm learning a lot everyday about time and space and how appears real to us from a 3 dimensional existence, but it's interesting that many observations I've made recently have seemed physical even in areas that I'm quite sure are non physical. All five sense which I know are not really at work in another "reality" appear to work anyway, but mostly that happens for me in what most would consider a dream state in which I'm not so lucid.

That you felt this was being shown to you is interesting. I wonder if you could have put yourself inside it had you gone lucid during it. Then again perhaps you were lucid and happy to watch the story unfold as it did. I'm learning a lot from MY BIG TOE, but it also kind of jumbles my mind up as you can see from what I'm writing here. I think though if you felt you were being shown it then it is not simply "a dream" that comes from your subconscious only...unless it's all a dream, right? †Wink

NPMR (Thomas Campbell terminology) which is basically anything we experience that isn't C1, except that actually C1 is a subset of NPMR and NPMR is the superset that governs it. (Moen-Monroe terminology) all implies that any consciousness that differs from C1 is still more than † mere individual imagination.

Obviously I'm still taking it all in but I am curious about MJ too and wanted to chime in. It seems to me your experience was very cool. †
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 3:10pm
 
Wow that's something! How did you feel when you awoke?

I would agree with betson, both your concern for him and your curiosity of the afterlife may have triggered this experience.

It certainly sounds like the rejuvenation center of focus 27 (from what I have heard)

Do you normally sense emotions like you did in this dream?
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Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:28pm
 
Yes super,I think you made contact.I get a lot of my contacts from dreams.more power to you.George
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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 1:12am
 
Beau wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 2:47pm:
All five sense which I know are not really at work in another "reality" appear to work anyway, but mostly that happens for me in what most would consider a dream state in which I'm not so lucid.

That you felt this was being shown to you is interesting. I wonder if you could have put yourself inside it had you gone lucid during it. Then again perhaps you were lucid and happy to watch the story unfold as it did. I'm learning a lot from MY BIG TOE, but it also kind of jumbles my mind up as you can see from what I'm writing here. I think though if you felt you were being shown it then it is not simply "a dream" that comes from your subconscious only...unless it's all a dream, right? †Wink

NPMR (Thomas Campbell terminology) which is basically anything we experience that isn't C1, except that actually C1 is a subset of NPMR and NPMR is the superset that governs it. (Moen-Monroe terminology) all implies that any consciousness that differs from C1 is still more than † mere individual imagination.

Obviously I'm still taking it all in but I am curious about MJ too and wanted to chime in. It seems to me your experience was very cool. †


That's interesting about the lucid part. I just felt like I was there as it was happening in front of me. Almost like the "people" helping MJ walk were aware of me but MJ was definitely not.
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Reply #7 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 1:13am
 
betson wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 1:55pm:
Hi SuperModel,

That was a lovely experience -- many thanks for sharing it!
You've been putting your consciousness into both his situation and the afterlife in general, so it seems you set your intent for this without formally doing so. Your Guidance felt you were ready for such contact and provided you the opportunity. †

You were seeing him in his prime and you are aware that time was changing -- †Smiley You were aware of the love being shown him. -- All 'benchmarks' of afterlife experience!
I think you got it! †Congratulations !!

Bets





I apologize because I don't know how to multi quote but thank you Betson. You always respond to me and others with kind words!

Thanks again!
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Reply #8 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 1:14am
 
MikeV wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 3:10pm:
Wow that's something! How did you feel when you awoke?

I would agree with betson, both your concern for him and your curiosity of the afterlife may have triggered this experience.

It certainly sounds like the rejuvenation center of focus 27 (from what I have heard)

Do you normally sense emotions like you did in this dream?


I'm not a dreamer and normally HATE to dream. I don't get very emotional in dreams but when I woke up, I was literally crying my eyes out. The pillow was wet.

I started to cry towards the end when he was so happy, being around the children. I can honestly say, I've never in my 29 years of life felt that rush of joy that I felt in that dream. Never.
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Reply #9 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 1:16am
 
george stone wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:28pm:
Yes super,I think you made contact.I get a lot of my contacts from dreams.more power to you.George


Thanks George!!! I'm so happy! I was starting to feel a little left out but I have to admit, I was a little weary on trying it on my own.

I think my guides know that I'm such a wimp when it comes to things like this so they presented it to me the best way they knew how...in a dream.
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Reply #10 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 4:34pm
 
I will chime in with the others to congratulate you. This experience does show characteristics of the type of dream I consider a message/visitation, the key aftereffects being increased clarity and the remembrance of positive feelings that you have upon awakening. Seeing him as young and happy is common in these types of dreams, from what I have read and experienced, and it is interesting that you received this message with a feeling of it being in 'flashbacks'. I am encouraged that you saw children around him, in a happy scene. This is an important detail, in my opinion.
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Reply #11 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 4:40pm
 
Thanks a lot Moonandjunes!

The dream ended with a bright white light before I woke up. I wished I could have stayed to see more.

Perhaps another time...

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Reply #12 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 7:38pm
 
Your emotional reaction, the vividness, the white light, the people noticing you... couldn't be more real!

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Reply #13 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 12:37am
 
Thanks you guys. I just ordered a book and can't wait to learn more.
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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:46pm
 
I am not to surprised at the children you saw. MJ was well known for his work in presenting an opportunity for sick and dying children to enjoy themselves before the passed. A big part of Neverland was that part of MJ's story. It is also public knowledge that few others gave the amount of time or money to help children. It is unfortunate that our current society sees love and friendship towards children as potentially crossing a sexual boundry. I believe its because of the western worlds sexulisation(SP) of children, mostly through advertising and TV. Sometime children just need that hug or someone to tell them that they are loved. Children helping MJ is something I would expect. I am happy you shared that part of your experience with us.
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Reply #15 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 1:04pm
 
hawkeye wrote on Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:46pm:
I am not to surprised at the children you saw. MJ was well known for his work in presenting an opportunity for sick and dying children to enjoy themselves before the passed. A big part of Neverland was that part of MJ's story. It is also public knowledge that few others gave the amount of time or money to help children. It is unfortunate that our current society sees love and friendship towards children as potentially crossing a sexual boundry. I believe its because of the western worlds sexulisation(SP) of children, mostly through advertising and TV. Sometime children just need that hug or someone to tell them that they are loved. Children helping MJ is something I would expect. I am happy you shared that part of your experience with us. †


I agree. I think the media focused too much on his physical appearance instead of the humanitarian work that he did.

Michael was very different from a lot of us. The compassion and caring he had for children was unmeasurable. I wish people would focus on the good work that he did here instead of his skin bleaching (vitiligo) , or lifestyle.

When I saw Michael for the first time, I remember that I selfishly thought, "OMG I'm standing next to him!" I wanted him to notice me but he didn't. That feeling quickly went away when I saw his condition.

He was just really out of it but at least he was walking...or trying to.

The part with the kids is the part that I remember the most. Mostly because of the exhilaration I felt when he saw the children running up
to him in droves.

The last image I saw was him picking up a girl/boy(hard to tell) and him lifting them in the air....before it ended in a huge white light.
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Reply #16 - Jul 22nd, 2009 at 6:09am
 
I know I haven't posted here in a while and I know this comes a little late, but here goes.

Supermodel, I think it was entirely possible that you visited MJ in your dream. I have had similar experiences where I had a dream and I saw at least one of my deceased cats. I can remember it being in a place that was like a vet's office and the receptionist at the desk told me this is where my cat lives now, and then I saw him. It seemed to realistic to just be subconscious. I suspect that you had a brief visit here as well, and I think Hawkeye's response also has some valid points and further confirms the possibility that this was an actual visit. I also know that the media was not very friendly towards MJ during his final years and it seems like his humanitarian work wasn't covered very much by the media, which is unfortunate. I have to agree with Hawkeye 100%

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Reply #17 - Jul 22nd, 2009 at 8:01pm
 
DavidLay wrote on Jul 22nd, 2009 at 6:09am:
I know I haven't posted here in a while and I know this comes a little late, but here goes.

Supermodel, I think it was entirely possible that you visited MJ in your dream. I have had similar experiences where I had a dream and I saw at least one of my deceased cats. I can remember it being in a place that was like a vet's office and the receptionist at the desk told me this is where my cat lives now, and then I saw him. It seemed to realistic to just be subconscious. I suspect that you had a brief visit here as well, and I think Hawkeye's response also has some valid points and further confirms the possibility that this was an actual visit. I also know that the media was not very friendly towards MJ during his final years and it seems like his humanitarian work wasn't covered very much by the media, which is unfortunate. I have to agree with Hawkeye 100%

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Thanks a lot David!
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Reply #18 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 11:52pm
 
I have a long story to tell and itís about MJ.
When I wrote this fifteen years ago, I never thought how much this moment would change my entire life and the trajectory that I've been on.

It's an amazing story.

For one, I want to clear something up. I wrote fifteen years ago that I felt MJ didn't see me when I crossed over. He confirmed to me through another person (who knew nothing of the situation and is a psychic medium with a PhD in Parapsychology) that Michael DID see me that day.

It was after that the dreams began. I began having dreams of HIM for a few months after I wrote this post, but in April of 2010, the dreams exploded. I went from having dreams of him every once in a while to having dreams of him nearly 1x...then 2x....then 3x a week afterward.

He would come to me and tell me little things. Some of the conversations I can't even tell you what we talked about. Others are more clear.

The dreams picked up in intensity and when I would see him, he was alright some days, and others he would be in complete tears. I always had to console him and frequently found him on a beach or near water.

It got to the point where I didn't even want to go to work because I wanted to be in bed...near him. Then, strange things started happening to me around this very time.

I thought I was crazy. I considered that I was having a mental break from reality until one day on September 20, 2010, he fully materialized.

Like, he materialized in front of the both of us. We were both speechless for a few moments. I was excited but he was scared out of his wits.

He looked like he did in life. I could tell his facial features, his curly hair with tendrils falling into his face. I could see that he wore a yellow colored shirt and black leather pants. He looked like he did around 1993 with a big, beautiful smile on his face before he slowly disappeared. It was like he was glowing BLUE but from the INSIDE OUT. He looked beautiful guys.

I sat there in complete shock, unsure of what to do or say. There he was. And then moments later, he wasn't there any longer. But it still happened and Ill never forget that moment.

(I would pass a million lie detector tests...)


Right in front of me and another person that I was close with at the time (still am close to this person)

It was all the things I needed to know that this was real. This was happening. I was communicating with Michael Jackson and that this was real.

It got to the point where I couldn't wait to get home to go to sleep because I would see him.

I don't want to go into a lot of detail because many of our interactions I'd like to keep private.

But I will say that it wasn't long before we began to develop "other" feelings. Feelings that felt right to me.

I want to be careful what I say, but it was a great relief to me that I wasn't crazy and that this was happening.

I'd like to say that MJ is a HUGE part of my life every day and that I still communicate with him. We've progressed past Dreams and things like that. I'm so used to him now it's like he's a member of my family. That's how I treat him. Like a member of my family.

I just wanted to say that without the good people that I met here, including Bruce Moen who helped me privately through this time.

His loss when I found out about it, was very rough for me. I would call Bruce on the phone and talk to him about this and other things. I truly miss Bruce and I'll never forget what he did for me and how helped me so much. I don't know how much of the old gang who was around fifteen years ago are here now, but I'm still here. Still lurking after all this time.

Everything here is true and not made up. I'm just grateful to be scrolling through the internet and found this site. Without it, I would have never had the tools to look for Michael the way that I did that terrible June night when he left us forever. I was able to find him thanks to you guys and something beautiful blossomed because of it.

I love Michael very very much and he's a part of my everyday life. I just wanted to share this in a place where I wouldn't be subjected to ridicule and please forgive me for BUMPING an ancient post from 2009, but I was so moved to do something about it that I decided to write it down here before I completely lose my nerve.

But I am so happy that dreams come true and that I learned so much from all of you. I would have never thought any of this possible before and thought that you guys were just nuts.† Cheesy

But you're not. Neither am I. I'm just so grateful that I had so many people to help me through this very difficult but memorable time in my life.

There is a lot more to this story. A LOT more. Maybe one day Ill dare to share it all. But it's therapeutic for me to write this down before I lose my nerve.

Remember, keep going with your respective journeys.



Original Post: I wrote this nearly fifteen years ago. Iíve been communicating with MJ ever since I saw him that day. He DID see me on the other side but at first, I didnít think so. Itís a crazy story but it's all true. One day Iíll tell it all.

Thanks, guys...
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