carl wrote on Jan 16^th, 2013 at 12:42am:


  Hi Carl, I will go out somewhat on a limb.  I see it as very probable that a very large and intense Solar event is going to happen sometime between latter 2013 to mid 2014.  I have not been given an exact date, and perhaps can't because of fluidic nature of the future and time.  That and perhaps people aren't supposed to know the exact timing, because frankly some are meant to be caught off guard. 

Anyways, what i have seen is that this Solar event will knock out electricity around much of the world, and will cause severe climate, geological and health issues.  But, it's the downing of electricity which is going to be the biggest issue since in so called developed countries so much of our life and living is based on electricity and so many of us don't know how to survive in direct connection with the land anymore.  We have become so dependent on technology, and that technology is much more fragile than we realize or would like to think.   A large solar flare knocked out electricity for a bit in Quebec a couple of decades or so ago.  Well the flares we may see (very probable so i've been told) will be much more intense and direct. 

  When this event first starts to happen, it will be very noticeable because the skies will appear as quite Red pretty much everywhere.  I recommend finding and hanging out for awhile in a cave if you see that. 

  I see a lot of people dying, and a lot of challenge for at least a few years, but after that i see a probable, and quite a positive transformation process.  Some of the people you disparage on this site, for example, will be part of this positive transformation process.  They will help to co-create healthy--spiritually and ecologically based communities where the emphasis is on helping one another and the Earth.  Real farming, meditation and prayer, music, healing, psychism, and above all Love will become the greater emphasis.   I see a collectively joyous, peaceful, and truly healthy humanity being born.   

I've gotten this info from a combination of dreams, meditation, and synchronicity with others who likewise have received similar info. 

  It's possible it won't happen the harder way, but it's very probable that it will, and i think America is going to have it rougher than most of the rest of the world. 

Don:

Put it this way.  Jesus said things such as "As you sow so you reap" because if he said things about energetic levels people from his time period, for the most part, would not have understood what he was talking about.

It could be that the people who lived when Swedenborg lived would not had been able to understand something such as the disk concept. Therefore, Swedenborg was instead told that Souls share information with each other and end up mistaking this information for past life information.

In a way this is true, because if information comes from other disk members, soul group members, and beyond, a case of past life misidentification might take place. There is an identity connection in the sense that "all disk members are one," "all Soul Group members are one," and "all Souls are one."

It doesn't make sense to me that a Soul is going to limit itself to just one incarnation. Once it acquires a lot of experience it isn't possible for it to incarnate all of itself into an incarnation. Therefore, it extends a small part of itself, and in the end, going by what I understand, allows this small part to continue as a unique entity/Soul. I believe it is possible that such an extension will incarnate a limited number of times.

Some people have had NDEs and such where they found out about disk-like reincarnation in a way that is beyond the confusion and deception Swedenborg wrote about.

When I experienced about 12 incarnations at once I felt like I was this large spacious being that is capable of much more than what can be stuffed into one little body. Yet, I was still me. When I make contact with such a higher level of being it seems like too much for my body.

Regarding the Ian Stevenson reincarnation case/possession possibility, I brought it up because you've brought it up before. There may be cases where a child has memories that seem to be past life memories but instead they come from an earthbound spirit that has attached to a child. The parallel incarnation examples Stevenson provided suggest otherwise, because what is the likelihood of the spirit of a still alive person possessing a child?

Regarding the time factor, a disk can send out more than one incarnation during the same time period.




Berserk2 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2013 at 3:01pm:

  Sort of along the lines that Albert earlier wrote.  Say you were exploring the nonphysical, say you were Swedenborg.  You come upon a particular "Disk" or Total Essence, and out of that Disk comes several very distinct individuals with their own unique characters, traits, tendencies, etc. 

   You might say, oh, these are separate "Souls" as i perceive them as individuals.  In a very real sense, they all each lived their own physical lifetimes and survive as distinct personalities in the nonphysical.  It wasn't that one personality and self was born, lived, died, experienced the nonphysical and then was born again. 

   If one saw such a thing, one might surmise, "reincarnation is bunk".  But if you understand the Disk concept, you can understand that these selves are very much individual, freewilled, and unique beings, but are also so very connected to each other and really are part of one larger self. 

  This is a microcosm process and reflection of what Source/The Creator did in the beginning.  It projected unique, individual, freewilled parts of itself out.  These parts are different, unique, etc. but they are not separate from the Source they came from. 

  What the Creator did with creating our Disks, is what our Disks did with creating "probes". 

  But again, i've found that direct, literal, traditional reincarnation can and does happen, but it seems much more rare than the other kind. 

  Also, it's true that sometimes we may think we were a certain person because of either an inphysical or nonphysical association with another.  There is a interesting case of this in the Cayce work.  A man was convinced he had been Judas Iscariot in another life--some visions of his had seemed to confirm it.  A friend of his, asked for this man about this issue.  They were told that in another life, that he was very closely associated with Judas Iscariot and that was part of the reason of why they believed they WERE J.I., but that they weren't actually. 

  While this can and sometimes does happen, it may not be very common unless in cases of more well known people.  A  person who had been a close confidante and friend of say Cleopatra, might in another life think that she was Cleopatra because of related memories.

Berserk2 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Are they?

A. He believed in the Last Judgement Day. Smacks of religious stupidity.
B. He thought The Last Judgement had already passed (in the year 1757). Cartoonish, isn't it?


Berserk2 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

He really ground his axe with the idea of Trinity, as he cut it down and rejected Trinity. Praise the Lord! Hallelujha!
More unsubstantiated religion and sort of ES first denial of the existence of the Disk concept. :)

Perhaps an indication why his view on incarnations was different than Monroe's?


Berserk2 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Your assumption is wrong when you paint all non-Catholics the same.

Don, if you believe so, why are you here? On a Moen/Monroe site, when
you think Monroe and Moen are wrong? Why aren't you on one of the
many Swedenborg forums or in his New Church?

Berserker, get your quotes right.

Go see Swedenborg flaws.

O wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:


   That is a very good point, the fruits matter the most.  But, i would also say the information itself does matter.  Everything is information, Consciousness is vibrating information in it's essence.  Since all information is interconnected, information of any kind can and often does have an influence on us in some way.  No information is truly "neutral"--it's either relatively expanding, or contracting in nature.  Expanding is "good" or rather freeing, and contracting is limiting in nature.

   To what extent we are influenced by information seemingly outside of ourselves, varies depending on different factors, our awareness, experience bank, strength of will, level of spiritual maturity, balance between our physical, mental and Consciousness levels, etc.   However, outside information often has more influence us than we may consciously realize or give credit too.  Hence, information itself can and should be discriminated, along with the sources of same if we are serious about our consciousness growth (the very reason why all of us our here, both for ours and others).   Sometimes it's helpful to be mislead for awhile and may even be prechosen as part of our life path, but ultimately, we are going to more helped or facilitated by more accurate, helpful, balanced, and expanding information.  Naturally, sources which are themselves more intune, balanced, constructive are going to have the tendency to give such information. 

   It's far, far, far from a black and white process. The fruits of a source definitely are very important, but so isn't the source itself and the "vibratory field" it radiates, aka the information it communicates with others.  It all has potential influence depending.