Greetings bocor,

and welcome!

Yes, Moen's home study course includes access to focus 27. It doesn't  'sail' you in, as apparently hemisync does,
but it introduces you with the natural means of breathing, etc and then leaves it up to you and your Interpreter as to when you are ready for 27 and higher. That way you know your system of subtle bodies has been stretched and relaxed enough for the further (farther?) explorations.

You'll get a variety of replies on this. Mine is compromised since I never tried hemisynch.
Much success to you in your development!

Bets

bocor, you can also get focus 27  hemisync on the "going home" series avalable at the TMI bookstore. There are no prerequisites to get these exercises. Also after Gateway you can do the Lifeline course and get lots of expearence in retrieving (focus 22 to 26) and in focus 27      (the park). You also get the focus 27 hemisync to take home at the end of the week. Great course and may well change your lives.
Joe

Bocor: After I went to Gateway Voyage, I eventually went beyond Focus 21, so I think it is possible without aid of special Focus 27 HemiSync tapes.

George: I don't know how reliable my explorations are, I only can say, the place I was in, and which I consider to be Focus 27 had all that what you mentioned. There are lots of organized public places, centers, buildings as well as landscapes. Sometimes it looks very earthly (though more beautiful, peaceful, with an inner glow, but sometimes forms are weaker and thoughts, images, concepts, feelings come to the fore.

Spooky

I agree with Joe. George, when I was doing PE, I asked my partner to meet me in focus 27. we both were looking at a spacious park area in our minds.

I am attracted to the library: it looks like this: has those roman columns and a ton of cement steps leading to huge doors. large expanse of lawn, park benches, my PE partner and I would sometimes sit on to talk with each other. she saw a different style of park bench than myself, but we both saw them, and walkways through park.

I also saw my children sitting in an ancient stone school, stone walls high up, seemed European at the time. this school was like for their age group, for their soul group and there were teachers there speaking in front of the class.

the library I see as books up to the ceiling. guides stand outside to take you on tours, help u look for something.
like the others say George, it is a fluid and changable place according to what it is we would desire to build, or visit.

Bruce,
Thanks for this post. One of the things that I have noticed is that there comes a point during my awareness where there is a shift, so to speak. Suddenly, I am aware that I am not "focusing" on the external sounds around me, though I may still be aware of it. There appears to always be some part of me that stands guard on my physical in case I need to exit meditative states immediately. I have been playing with this idea of the "slipping" as I call it.

Now, I am intrigued by what you wrote: shift your focus of attention just a little bit away from physical reality. Could you elaborate on your experience with this process. It seems to be key and I am interested in how you experience shifting focus both before and after TMI. During my TMI experience, I worked through the week until I came to Focus 21 at which point, upon my return trip (), I noted the loud crash of breaking glass and the oddest music (odd in the sense that it didn't appear as part of the exercise) being played. For a brief moment, I noted that the sound did not originate from the outside, through the system. It was outside of that event. I consider the breaking glass as a "break through" and the pan flute music to have been like trumpets of a different nature sounding my arrival at that key point. That was my experience, of course, and I noted with my fellow explorers that all experiences, depending upon their belief system, varied the experiences that had with the voyage.

Also, I will be the first to add a resounding DO SOMETHING as well. Monroe's daughter asked me once, upon describing my experience in the 3D space: What did you do? That was an oh, yeah moment. I hadn't done anything. I had been trying to get to that point in the experience but had no real goal for what I would do ONCE I REACHED IT.

E.

EternalEssence wrote on Dec 4^th, 2007 at 11:29am:



EternalEssence,

The "slipping" as you call it sounds like a definite step change away from physical reality and toward some nonphysical reality.  In terms of phasing Monroe would say that shifting our awareness to one of these nonphysical realities, or focus levels, can be thought of as having some percentage of our awareness within physical reality and the remaining percentage in the nonphysical reality.  So, when you say that there appears to always be some part of your standing guard on your physical, Monroe would say some percentage of your awareness remains at the level of physical reality.  And that this percentage of our awareness is alert to physical surroundings and in a sense calls our "traveling awareness" percentage back to physical reality to investigate any potential physical world "threats."

One of the shifts that I experience that I could call a telltale sign of phasing is what I call the 3D Blackness.  With my eyes closed the flat, two-dimensional blackness before my eyes suddenly changes to a blackness with depth.  As I recall Monroe used the term Velvety Blackness to describe his similar experience.  One other telltale sign is the Flying Fuzzy Zone.  While peering into the two-dimensional blackness I am suddenly seeing many (100) tiny pinpoints of light all randomly moving in tight spirals.  The instant I realize what has happened high pop back out of that area of consciousness.  Of these two the 3D Blackness has been the most useful.  More detail is given in the Guidebook but basically by peering into the depths of this 3D blackness small, generally circular or spiral discontinuities and the blackness will be noticed.  By focusing attention upon one of these and intending to examine it more closely, or move toward it, interesting things happen.  Typically, it would seem that shortly after I focused my attention on one of these discontinuities I would have the sense of moving toward it, and popping out on the other side of it within what ever reality or situation I had originally intended to explore.

Your assessment of the experience of the sound of breaking glass and the oddest music is, I believe, right on.  Our own beliefs and expectations definitely seem to enter into our perception of these experiences.

Laurie was a great one for stimulating those "oh, yeah, moments."  

A perfect example for me that taught me how subtle the shifts of awareness are is one that only happens to those of those who do not sleep alone.  I crawl into bed, close my eyes, and if I am awake for more than 90 seconds that is by my standards insomnia.  So, I'm laying there after five minutes or so, wide-awake, wondering how long it is going to take me tonight to fall asleep.  I am wondering what's keeping me awake.  I am wishing I could just fall asleep.  And then I feel a gentle jab of my wife's elbow and she says, turnover Hon, your snoring!  In that moment I realize I had phased into Focus 10, my mind was definitely awake, and my body was sound asleep, snoring.  Yet, I had no idea I was in Focus 10 until the elbow nudge.  It felt like I was both physically and mentally awake.  If I had realized before the elbow nudge that I'd made the shift to focus 10 so completely, OBE would have been a simple matter.

I believe the same thing happens to many who use Hemi-Sync Focus 10 audiotapes.  While listening to the tape their awareness shifts fully to Focus 10 and because the shift was so subtle they don't know it has happened.  After the tape they complain that "nothing happened."  Many who use these tapes would have more interesting experiences if while they were listening they tried to do something.

Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks for the information. Slipping was the most odd experience when it first occurred -- or should I say, when I first noticed it. Since then, I have told Frank D. that someone should write a dictionary of nonphysical language, which he seemed to enjoy. It was that slipping point through which I first found myself grappling with the limits of language (physical) to describe the nonphysical aspects. Now, I have been reading the Guidebook with great interest and I found myself likening the "slipping" to the bendy exercise -- the moment in the midst of awarness when you suddenly become aware of the most intricate movement that you simply had not noticed before.

The 3D Blackness. I am so glad you posted that. Because I could not believe how difficult it was to explain to people the idea of blackness with depth. I often found myself telling people that my experience has been that I am suddenly aware that the two-dimensional darkness that I associate with closing one's eyes has suddenly changed (through "slipping") into a deep blackness, comfortable, but with definate depth. You can literally sense that there is a 360 radius around you within the area of awareness that you sit.

The Flying Fuzzy Zone is a new one for me -- at least I haven't matched it to any experience yet.

As to my assessment, Skip I also found interesting in that his questions always forced you to probe deeper for an explanation rather than seeking an association with another's experience.

Yes, she (Laurie) was. Penny, too. I haven't met the other as of yet. I am fortunate to have a part of them with me always. Rosie, Maureen, etc. My life seems very rich when I look at it.


"A perfect example for me that taught me how subtle the shifts of awareness are is one that only happens to those of those who do not sleep alone.  I crawl into bed, close my eyes, and if I am awake for more than 90 seconds that is by my standards insomnia.  So, I'm laying there after five minutes or so, wide-awake, wondering how long it is going to take me tonight to fall asleep.  I am wondering what's keeping me awake.  I am wishing I could just fall asleep.  And then I feel a gentle jab of my wife's elbow and she says, turnover Hon, your snoring!"

This is rather funny. Frank was the first person to mention this idea of hearing yourself snore. Upon my voyage at TMI, I suddenly became aware of the physical and I heard the most awful sound of breathing. I first thought that I had brought back some heavy breather, only to realize in a moment of absolute astonishment that it was ME. I had a single room and I was snoring as well. I think I told everyone about my gaping black hole of a snore because it was such an experience. Of course, I had to apoloize to Frank as well. I also experience time differentials, wherein the passing of what "feels" like a few moments becomes in "reality" the passing of hours. Your explanation matches my experience.

I have found that many people using some of the more visual exercises tend to have more tangible results. I liken this to the idea of doing something. The visual imagery, like in The Visit, for example, takes someone through the exercise step by step, telling them what to do. When you are suddenly confronted with finding your own way, people seem to just wait -- maybe waiting for someone to tell them to do something.

Out of curiosity, when you first began focusing your attention away from the physical, what did you focus on. I mean, did you have an image in mind, did you drift and allow, or did you follow a sort of path or pattern. Of course, I don't want to front load another's experience, so if you wish to reply offline, that will be fine. I look forward to any reply.

E.