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Kranada Junior Member Offline Posts: 78 Pennsylvania USA Gender:	falling asleep Nov 6^th, 2006 at 5:13am The desire is there, the knowledge is there, I've done it before, but for some reason my attempts at getting out a 2nd time are failing. I seem to be falling asleep very quickly. Perhaps tonight will be different we shall see
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Reply #1 - Nov 6^th, 2006 at 9:20pm

last night was draining.. I was anticipating to much and couldnt get out. I tried progressive relaxation techniques over and over and although I felt as though i could slip out at any time something was holding me back I eventually gave up and turned over on my belly and fell asleep. Today I felt very mentally drained. I hope tonight will be the night. I just bought this excellent book called Magical use of thought forms by Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki and J.H. Brennan some very intresting stuff in this book people! I'll let you know more about it after I read it. Anyway any help getting out would be greatly appreciated thanks

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Reply #2 - Nov 7^th, 2006 at 11:56am

Greetings kroan,

Lots of us share your experience in wanting to get out, then no go.
One thing that frequently helps is to do some deep breathing. Bruce's method suggests 3 deep breaths right before setting your intent, but I found that I had to also do the 3 breaths periodically throughout the day and not wait until right before going out. When we're busy/stressed, the extra breathing helps calm and restore our systems.
Your Guidance will protect you from doing practices that might not be good for you. How's your general health? (Rhetorical question, just fr you to consider.)

Another thing that might help is stating clearly in your own mind that you do want to go OoB, that you do want to remember the experience, and that you do want protection while you're doing so. That may remove some unrecognized blocks; it has for others.

Much success and keep us posted, kroan!

bets
I hate to add this last note, bt if you post this above in the general topic "Afterlife Knowledge", you may get more response. Unfortunately many readers start at the top of the index, then run out of time before they get to the book section.

Check out JamesBond's similar question up there called "Weird stuff happened."

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Reply #3 - Nov 7^th, 2006 at 9:46pm

try this Kroan: think about going obe with all details; where u go, what u do once there, maybe some flying, etc. imagine, imagine, imagine

do this for 2 minutes minimum. next day do 2 more minutes same thing. then this next step very important. completely forget about the whole thing and relax into your life.
if you did your imagination detailed enough with feeling, something bound to happen if u don't give up and take it easy, don't struggle with this. you're right, you can drain yourself if not careful. love, alysia

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Kranada Junior Member Offline Posts: 78 Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: falling asleep Reply #4 - Nov 8^th, 2006 at 4:43am Great advise from both of you thanks a ton. Is it possiable to become so proficient at astral travel that you virtually never fail to have an obe when you want to?
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LaffingRain Super Member Offline Choose this Day Posts: 5249 Arizona Gender:	Re: falling asleep Reply #5 - Nov 8^th, 2006 at 11:11pm haha! you'd have to ask our man Monroe that question. I hear he's available for consultation and he did leave us a great book; a slice of himself. love, alysia
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Reply #6 - Nov 8^th, 2006 at 11:58pm

all i hear about is robert monroe in books, on this site, everywhere yet I've never read anything that he wrote... some of the stuff i've read is

astral travel for beginners by richard webster
magical use of thought forms by ashcroft and brennan (just bought this it looks great havent read it yet)
angels companions in magick by ravenwolf
yan xin qigong and the contempory sciences by wozniak wu and wang
traditional acupuncture the law of the five elements by dianne m connelly phd
transform stress into vitality by mantak chia
bone marrow nei kung mantak chia and maneewan chia
fusion of the five elements by mantak chia and maneewan chia
a witches guide to ghosts and the supernatural by dunwich
akahic records by chaney
etheric anatomy by anderson
aura reading for beginners by webster
ALL of Konstantinos's books (6 of them)
Spells ceremonies and magic by Wippler

>> I read alot more but these books were my favorite

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EternalEssence Full Member Offline Posts: 127	Re: falling asleep Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2007 at 5:17am Kroan, An important point to remember: not all your experiences will be matched by those that write about them. If you feel something important is happening, follow it. It may be that you are resisting guidances because it didn't "occur" for those with whom you are familiar.
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EternalEssence Full Member Offline Posts: 127	Re: falling asleep: addendum Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2007 at 5:19am Forigve....slight correction: If your experiences do not match the experiences of another (i.e., in the books you've read) do not discount the experience. Follow your feeling. You are your best judge on what works and what doesn't. Trust yourself.
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Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2007 at 5:27am

The assistance of some "Pure Unconditional Love" would certainly be valuable. If you are having trouble remembering a time of "Love" then ask for assistance from any higher being you desire whether it be a loved one, Robert Monroe or a Guardian Angel. As a matter of fact, I will experiment: I have sent you a cube filled with "PUL" just now; do what you want with it.

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Kranada Junior Member Offline Posts: 78 Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: falling asleep Reply #10 - Mar 2^nd, 2007 at 6:11pm what did you mean about sending me a cube filled with pul I assume pul is pure unconditional love but what do you mean you sent me a cube of it?
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Reply #11 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 10:31pm

That was an experiment I attempted with remote assistance that assumed that Pure Uncon. Love can be packaged as an object of sorts. The concept is like me mailing you a battery for your flashlight so that it shines brighter; a way of assisting without imposing a wish upon you in any way. Also, I am intrigued by the idea that love extends further beyond hugs and kisses and is in fact a force unto iteself.

With Respect,
Steve Ed.

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Kranada Junior Member Offline Posts: 78 Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: falling asleep Reply #12 - Mar 5^th, 2007 at 7:30am Well I sure do need a little pul right now. Withought going into much detail i've been having alot of problems at work which could greatly effect my income. I sure could use some positive vibes on this one
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Reply #13 - Mar 5^th, 2007 at 11:40pm

dear Kroan: I don't know what happened at your workplace but probably has something to do with your relationship with a boss or coworkers..as well self image.

what Steve is doing is to remind us that good intentions, or PUL, is what works best for any sort of nonphysicial explorations such as obes included that you are interested in.

so heres my suggestion since u asked Wink

figure out the question in words, write the question down. just one question at a time reduces the confusion.
write it on paper, very important.
put it under your pillow so you will remember you have the question and the intention to solve somthing.
think about it each night until you may get a dream message or have a very vivid dream or even obe because you yourself have set the whole thing in motion.
if you want money ask how you can serve another first and your money will come.
if you want to go obe ask your higher self if you can, or should. wait and see what happens.
love, alysia

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Reply #14 - Mar 8^th, 2007 at 12:31pm

thanks, although none of this has anything to do with self image. A man who has always disliked me got into a position of power a month ago and he has started messing with me and a few other people by moving us into horriable departments where basically bran new people go not experienced people like myself who have been doing this job for 15 years. Anyway no one in the company can believe what has happened to me and other people have tried to get me back into a more favorable department but this guy just wont allow it Sad

aww well its just one of lifes little crosses.. thanks anyway Alyssa

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