Hi Steve  btw, I've never forgotten your name and your posts of seems long ago that caused me to not forget you. for what its worth. I have this idea we should remember each other and it helps us not go into hell    well, good for you! I too live by the "see it not there."  after all, what other course of action could there be?

If we focused our attention on hellish concerns we would only perceive more and more hell realms and we cannot save the world of our own small self from whatever they need to be saved from, thats surely up for question...

you are young! already you think death thoughts...you are ahead then. my mother and so many older folks do not think about death until it is nearly on top of them; then they go kicking and screaming into it, when it is only like a rebirth into where we came from.
thank you for your post, they are always so different to me and an element of an honest person comes through.

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 12^th, 2007 at 9:30am:


 Hi there Alysia, always nice to see your smiling face.  I believe we and our total selves are the "harvesters".  

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 Yeah, i think i see what you mean, and i do agree in some respects.  Yet, what is all this "retreival" stuff that Bob, Bruce, and others talk about, about?   Isn't it about finding stuck parts and aspects of the Whole, helping to release them so that the Whole can be wholly healthy and fully One again?  

  "Stuckness" may be only a temporal experience, but as long as there are still stuck parts of us, then it is a reality.  Their suffering and pain is a reality, and not something i would like to or even try to "see not there".  I can feel their pain, and it affects me because we are a part of each other.  

 I do believe that its not something we should concentrate on, and maybe that's what you were trying to say?  If we concentrate on it, then this unconsciously strengthens this reality, keeps it alive...  Yet, beyond belief systems and thought form patterns, what really will help this situation?   Trying to unstick em, thought in action.  If we perceived them as nonstuck to begin with, and ignore or repress this not so attractive part of reality, we would never try to help them in the first place, because we would think that there is nothing to ultimately help.  A contradiction is then created.

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 I see what you are saying, and i can very much relate too.  I can only authentically speak about my own experience and understandings on this.  For much of my childhood and so for a pretty big part of my life, i wanted to leave the physical.  I wanted to leave, because i was in so much emotional pain.  

 Looking back, and i believe this relates to what you talk about in the above, and from a more holistic perspective.  I have asked myself, why was i in so much pain?   I realized that it was because while i was not addicted to outer physical Earth stuff, like sex, food, money, etc. i was very much over attached to and in a very real sense addicted to inner Earth stuff which is based on the illusion of physical Earth, that of separation.   I mean, aren't physical bodies the ultimate facade in convincing a person that we are separate?  

  I was addicted to negative Earth emotions, i was addicted to self pity, to self centeredness,  selfishness, to feeling separate from others, and the over indulgence and addiction to these negative inner Earth energies, led to much emotional pain and despair, so much that at one point, all i was wanted was to leave the physical.      

 So perhaps there are different levels and different kinds of Earth addiction and over attachment?  In my previous article, i only mentioned the overt, outer, and obvious types of addiction that many here seem to have.

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  I very much agree, and while you may have perceived some of the above from my post, its not what i was trying to convey.  I was speaking "matter of factly" when talking about retreiver souls and lost souls.   Ultimately i do not place one above the other since i believe we are all One and part of each other, yet i can not but as a human to feel much love and respect to all and any retreiver souls who have tried to help my stuck brothers and sisters.  Its the deep love and respect i have for Yeshua, Buddha, Krishna and others like them.    I don't think they are any more worthwhile than any other souls, but i just feel so much gratitude towards them for taking on what can be a difficult job (incarating in the Earth from the desire to help and not from over-attachment and self stuckness).    Perhaps these human feelings i have, is why i capitilaized "Retrievers"?    Yet i fully believe we are all One, and are all potential Co-Creators with Source energy.

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 Dunno ultimately.  I wouldn't say so much a "penal" planet in the sense of some higher being or beings punishing humans or what not..but rather that some of the original lost sparks became naturally attracted to physical Earth (and helped to manifest physical bodies) because of like attracts and begets like law.   You could say that collective error both manifested physical bodies for souls here, and also the necessity for physical bodies.  So bodies both become the manifestation of collective and temporal error, but also the means to salvation from same.   What more than anything, urges a stuck human to go within, to try to reach out to Source again?

   Suffering, pain, all the things we created for ourselves, and which the physical human condition is a collective manifestation of.   Many spiritual teachers, including Buddha and Yeshua have taught that physical life is suffering in its essence (Buddha said so directly and plainly, and the Bible's shortest verse is "And Jesus wept"), and this relates back to the whole nature of physical bodies and their very convincing facade of the painful but ultimately illusionary condition of separation.   Separation is what causes suffering of any kind.  It's the indulgence of the non reality of separation which led to souls manifesting and becoming addicted to physical bodies.  This was first a Spirit thing/issue, which led to a physical issue as well, as physical is simply just a distorted reflection of Soul, and Soul in turn is a reflection of Spirit (which is Oneness in its essense).

  I believe we have to fully understand the problem or condition from all perspectives, before we can learn to transcend it.  

  As far as the pyramids and such, if you're talking about the Great Pyramid of Gizeh, neither i nor my sources find it as such.   I was there in another life, and took part in the G.P. construction.   Contrary to very narrow and dogmatic mainstream paradigms, the Great Pyramid did not involve ANY slave labour whatsoever, but was a collective positive/spiritual effort on part of many, many, including some (and led by) very spiritually evolved humans and some very spiritually evolved E.T. groups.  

  The Great Pyramid is a testament to Humanity, it is a symbol of its potential material transcendance, its is prophecy and wisdom encoded mathematically in stone and in such a dramatic and repeated way that all generations coming after same, there would be some would seek the deeper mysteries and wisdom in same.    

  Edgar Cayce's source(s) hint that the Creator Soul of this Universe and the first returned to Source Spark, was the actual Architect of the Great Pyramid.   This same Soul, as another physical personality much later on, went into Egypt and was tested within the halls of this great symbol.  He was the only Initiate to that date, who had successfully completed all of the tests, and this indicated to the High Priests of Egypt that he was the prophesized Messiah, the Christ, the one who had actually designed this great monument, the Creator Soul of this Universe (all this was in their records, and they kept faithful and clear records from the building of the G.P.).

 Edgar Cayce's source indicates that E.C. was also there at the building of the Great Pyramid, as kind of an overall general manager and prophet type and who was just the mouthpiece for the Gods (highly spiritually advanced E.T.s) and for the incarnated Creator Soul who actually designed the G.P., Cayce's name then was Ra Tah.  The C.S. was called different things, by different peoples and generations.  Most well known as Thoth, Hermes, and Enoch.  According to E.C.'s source this personality known as Thoth, Hermes, Enoch, etc., the actual architect of the G.P., also incarnated as Yeshua Ben Joseph.  Cayce incarnated with him again as a co-worker as Lucius of Cyrene (one of the 70 gentile disciples), apparently according to the Cayce readings, they had incarnated quite a few times in close capacity as co-workers though of course Cayce's being the student and follower, and C.S. being the teacher, guide and leader (except when Cayce was his father in ancient Persia).  This karmic history probably explains why Edgar was so obsessed with this Soul.  Lol, E.C. was kind of like, "Jesus this, Jesus that."  another person, "Oy Vey, what's with all the Jesus this and that?  Jesus Christ!"

 
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 Kool image, thanks for sharing.   Wow, i have pretty nice legs and what's that thing on top of my head?  

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 12^th, 2007 at 8:49am:


That fever told me that being unprepared for dying will complicate my mental state in horrific ways that would drive me into a primative fear of dying.  It has been a long day for me dealing with this fever but it does create some interenting experiences.  For example, I was staring at a TV screen (OFF) and got this strange feeling looking at my reflection.  It was like I was staring at somebody that was not me and I had a feeling of "hovering".   

spooky2 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2006 at 6:44pm:


Please forgive the seeming negative tone of this reply, but I simply must put this out there - my spiritual intel has it that the INSPECS ARE HARVESTING DARK LOOSH, negative emotions, dark ch'i, because they are Lucifer entities who survive and feed on negativity.  Read Far Journeys (page 101, paragraph 1 and page 122, page 177 '...such participation serves a vital need for us.'

A VITAL NEED? What vital need, and why did they not reveal to Robert what that need was? To distort and reduce the frequencies of joy, passion, loving, and more so that they can feed on the negativity?

Lucifer is a liar and the father of lies...

If anyone has read Far Journeys, they really should also read Dear God, What's Happening to Us? by Lynn Grabhorn - she got the intel Robert missed and they microwaved her to death for it - slowly.  They did not want her to reveal what was in that book.

So apologies if anyone is offended by this, that is not my intention - my intention is to awaken people to the truth and I could not care less about getting approval or my reputation - there are bigger issues at stake here called - The Gathering...also know as the worldwide Birth of Human-Plus.

recoverer wrote on Nov 29^th, 2006 at 5:49pm:


Lester Levinson attained total spiritual liberation in his lifetime & founded the Sedona Method (which saved my life, I might add).  He said that he thinks the mind/being that is in charge of Earth is Krishna.  So I bitched at Krishna about the Lucifer hijacking of Earth, the NWO, Illuminati, all that jazz.  K told me - "how else are we going to cure the separated egos of their selfishness if they don't suffer?" 

My Arrogant Stubbornness is the problem, and the problem of everyone who is suffering on this rock, in my opinion.

Suffering teaches us humility and the ability to give PUL.

This put the issue to bed for me, and as far as the Loosh Farm goes, when you wake up you will realize that you created it and the entire universe, according to Lester.

Dear God, What's Happening to Us? by Lynn Grabhorn has the intel Robert missed as far as the ongoing war - Far Journeys readers would be well advised to read Lynn's book too.

That is my take on it, as an Avatar of Someone Somewhere.

Thanks for reading this,

God Bless and Protect You This Day.

I AM

O wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 10:25am:

Or colored by beliefs, or colored by lost-in-translation concepts, or just
colored by colored glasses, like I wrote in this PE -> here. :)

Maybe his misunderstanding also was created on purpose by guides,
to make the concept of Love stand out as even more important?

Google "Ricky Dearman polygraph test"