Hi Spooky! cool descriptions. put my head on the pillow last nite and thought, hmm. wonder how many will do this exploration..? and wonder if I should do it as I just left the board..more pressing things you know! lol.
so I left it there and drifted off to sleep but remember being with a huge group on a grassy compound. everyone was relaxed and it was like a campsite in the outdoors and Bruce was there! he was sitting like the rest cross legged on the ground, people all around. he was the edge. I stood outside the circle looking at Bruce as he was talking. he started talking about having given up smoking. I've been thinking of giving it up myself but hadn't made a decision when. I still thought this was a PE even though Bruce and I discussed smoking. then I noticed we had about two or three large buildings on the compound and I had a post nearby I was supposed to go stand next to it. stand next to this building. so I did. from this post I could observe the whole compound and still be a part of it.

Hello all. Dont have to much to report although I mostly remember being with a group of people in a large grassy area...My impressions, as I think about them, were the  feeling of oneness with the group, joy, and a place I felt really at home. Thank you for sharing with me this amazing, loving, wonderful, enlightening, canvas of life that is only the beginning!!! Love you all!!!!!!!!!1

Well I didn't actully go to bed till around 4-5a.m. ooops...But now that I think about it I am getting the impression it was actually seemed light out with the gruop I was with????? ??? Well hoe to hear and see from you soon
love wade

Spooky,

Don't ever feel bad about describing what you rememeber about these Saturday PE's, it was wonderful to follow your travels. Sorry, I don't think that I made it there due to being held back, but that's another story.  Hope to remember if get some snippits of memory back if I did get there and if I didn't, I expect to try again next time.

So glad you posted, Love, Jean

Thanks Alysia for making a sum up. I think it's good to look at similarities even if it seems stretched, because this is the way to progress in PE. Well, and, I'm a smoker too, and thought some days ago when I read R.A. McKnights second book, where she wrote that it's important to end addictions before transition, if they have smoker's corners above there?!

One thought I have about the colored crystals I saw: It could be something personal, but maybe I saw my co-travelers as those crystals? There were four crystals (plus the white one) and I noticed four people arriving at the TMI crystal.

Allright, don't smoke too much, Spooky

Hey me again. I'm a smoker to!!!! I'd say thats a hit considering what bruce was talking about. Perhaps we are the saturday smoking club, Or better yet the saturday nonsmoking    ???thinking about quiting....Love wade

ahhh guys...this thread feels like a confessional..to my disc member catholic nun who is like mary poppins...

my guides are on me to quit. I've done it before. it's the first 3 days that suck the worst while it's leaving the body.
pretty soon I tell them. can't wait to see how I feel after I quit? maybe I'll ascend? hee hee.

here's a tip how to quit. once had a plastic cigerette with a menthol flavor inside and re-usable of course. since smoking is pretty much psychological, you only need to stick it in your mouth when u get the crave. you use it about a week then u realize you are not craving anymore. you're just focusing on other things and keeping busy.

love u guys, alysia

it is heartwarming Bruce. I got a big kick out of PE forum ever since it started.

what u say reminds me of my PE partner in Australia where it's one day in the future there..we used to try hard to coordinate the times we would do it..it was 10pm for me, and maybe 2pm the next day for her.

you're right, time didn't matter, we still got enough hits to blow us away.

we started to develop mental telepathy anyway. I could hear her thoughts in my head. not clearly and mostly her emotions, but that was freaky too and cracked me up. just sitting at the puter was a PE after awhile. love, alysia

Hi Bruce and all,
this "time-doesn't-matter" thing has really wide spreading implications. For example, everyday I talk in my mind with people, or dream strange dreams with people I know, but usually you put those things in the "just thoughts&fantasy"-basket because you can't see connections with the actual situation, and then usually you forget it. But if in the thought dimensions time is not the same like in physical matter, it would be possible that those thoughts and dreams are not only made up in your own mind, but are real meetings which can get reality for the other people involved in the future or had happened already for them in the past. If I think this over, I get a complete different approach to my everyday thinking and dreaming. There is more connection and importance then. No thought is lost as it would be if it's just made up and without effect on others. Because of the possible time-shift it is but hard to verificate that we are connected this way.
Spooky

Spooky,

I completely agree, the implications reach beyond the horizon of every reality I know, bringing the very nature conscious awareness into question.  Thinking about it can, as you say, completely change our approach.  We can begin to see more connection and importance in our everyday thoughts and dreams and . . .

Bob Monroe said it best in his simple statement that was the only belief he ever asked others to call into question as they began to learn what he taught . . .

"I am more than my physical body."

Exploring that belief began a process for me that leads to ever expanding orbits of understanding more of who and what I really am.  I see no end to that expansion.  I once worried that there wouldn't be enough time to explore it all. 

But then, at some point, I realized that while there may be no end to the possibilities in learning more about who and what I really am, I only have all of eternity to explore them.

Bruce

Jean, because you had set your Intent to go to the crystal, I'm sure an aspect of you did but you just don't remember it. Intent is awesome.

Love, Mairlyn

As I said in an earlier post, I've been out of touch lately.
However, on this night..I was in Palmetto State Park (Texas)..having a nightmare myself.

In it, two young boys stole our miniRV..and I ran to their campsite, told their father, "Give me your keys!"
I took off in his RV to catch the boys..used the RV to block them and managed to stop them.  I then asked the father if he had full coverage on his RV, because it was going to be expensive to fix ours and it was his boys fault.

I woke up with a sort of "huh?" feeling.

I think nightmares are good to write down also like you all have because then we can see them from another angle, turning them into something else through trying to understand why they occurred when our intention was something else.

as example I've worked a bit with setting intention and then drifting off to sleep.
kind of made a habit of doing it this way, yet the conscious imagination is just as good frequently to produce some hits. the reason I do it more to put myself to sleep, is I don't struggle with doubt when I'm dreaming so you could say I am a little lazy to phase.

phasing, I see as really advanced, so maybe thats my mental block there, to say I am not able to phase consistently. well the other day I got a message Rome was not built in a day. no sooner it flourished it was destructed. so liking what Lucy has to say, that you find your own path, building it as you will and tearing something down, you simply rebuild it....
speaking of setting intention then sleeping on it, I once did this with my PE partner. she made it to the crystal, I went to Louisiana.
ha ha! actually, I did make it to the back door of TMI before a guide drove me to Lousiana failing to tell me why she was driving me there when all I wanted was to meet with my partner.

the thing is I started to see failures as successes because at least I got to the back door of TMI, didn't I? that was way cool!
turns out the reason I couldn't get into the doors was I had these doubt thoughts in the day time that I wasn't "good" enough; that TMI wouldn't let any old riff raff enter in..that was funny...as I'm not riff raff, I just didn't believe in my own capabilities because I was thinking people who went to TMI were more together, or the elite, or yada yada...you know, it's easy to discount ourselves.
I could be way off track Jean with what I offered you..but I was going on my premise to use what the first thing came to my mind, not to discount the first thing. and it was that you said olive complexion which reminded me of another person in my orbit, so thats why I gave forth with that..I see facial features correctly, but only correctly for my own identification purposes, and also the height and strength were commonalities, as well maybe, the fear inside a person, drives their body around in the astral too. the main thing is how well you handled your nightmare to see beyond it with the curiosity. I think still this person is in your orbit and identity may come later if that's important. at least that's how it works with me. I've taken a whole year to identify someone from dream to reality, but we get better at it by just writing it down and pondering often what the message means.
it may just mean you see biting someone back doesn't make them release you necessarily, so you showed yourself a challenge and how you deal with it, then in your way you teach what you know by telling us about it. I don't see you as having to bite someone anyway, although we all have teeth, if you know what I mean..ramble ramble ramble..

I did discover the reason for being driven to Louisiana though, my daughters were planning a trip there for me, and they were in the car with me on my PE. still teed me off a little to not get into TMI, but just until I got an email from my partner that she had met me inside..oh really? I said, what did we do or say? ha ha! we danced she said.

well, funny thing is I had been imagining us dancing for two weeks. so there you go.
the adventure continues...

Hi Spooky,

So glad you responded to this because when I read about the sleepy person, I too wondered if it was me.  I do think that I made it there on 1/14 in spite of the earlier experience that night because there was strong conversation memory when I woke up.  In the days after, I printed out your experience and felt comforted as I kept rereading it.   My guy was defiantly separate from me but familiar and struggling to hold me back from going to the only place I intended to go that night, the crystal.  He seemed to dissipate as opposed to merging with me once I gave him the, “There’s nothing to fear, you’re safe” message much as you did with your individual.  He, indeed, was absolutely real to me but the internal confusion comes in when I wonder if he was holding my physical body back or the etheric one? Alysia introduced another possibility that I have to seriously consider and that is that it might have been another jealous individual not of me that did not want me to meet at the crystal that night.  Again, whether it was or not, the energy was dissipated with the message of assurance that everything would be ok. 

I’m finding that this is not an easy task to accomplish and just hope, as Marilyn says, that my intention is getting me there.  The following Saturday, I went to bed with the thought of wanting to go to the crystal because the picture posted by my bed looked so appealing as I started to drift into a light meditative state.  That night I had another lousy dream which was some how dealing with the beauracy of Homeland Security preventing me from enjoying a cruise with my husband on an ocean liner and the following incident where a voyeuristic security guard kept checking under my skirt for suspected counter- band.  And in my typical Jean way response to that type of annoyance, I took off my skirt as if to say ok now have a good look, I have nothing to hide.  I could feel my anger rise but at the same time I chucked when someone standing by, in reaction to my feisty response, said, “not bad, you have a good-looking body’”(t’aint necessarily so in reality but let the compliments remain).  So that was my second attempt to go to the crystal after that 1/14 Saturday and just as vivid as the previous Saturday’s dream/experience.  I don’t remember any dreams during my workweek due to my getting up for work at 4:30 am.   

So my plan is to keep practicing till the next official Saturday 2/11 comes around and maybe I’ll get it right then.

I get a warm feeling when I read your posts-so keep them coming, Love, Jean       

Alysia,

Aaah ha! they do indeed work in mysterious ways.
It went through this time because the circle of my communication is complete.

Jean

Nighmare2Spooky,

It appears that I’ve set up a pattern where I place my intention Saturday night to go to the crystal, as I did again last night, but whined up with a nightmare.  I don’t want to go into it here and it did end with me zooming a way on a motorcycle with my mother and a baby to safety but why am I into this pattern of dealing with unresolved issues when I just want to relax and get the feel of TMI grounds?  It’s probably because it’s the only night of the week that I’m either not decompressing from work or preparing for it.  I agree with you that the best way to do mind travel is fully dressed, on my back, in my bed but I’ve also found that I can do it when I very tired.  That was the setting when I did my first retrieval using Bruce’s CD.  But most of the time, I’m so tired that I try to kill two birds with one stone, by getting the sleep I need while doing the exercise. 

But I do value these so called nightmares too because they are telling me something about what might be making me hesitant to let go and just do the action, how I’m handling perceived obstacles, and also, I think, what issues are ready for me to come to terms with now that I have more insight/experience that my have caused some splitting off of within aside from the clues regarding how I’m perceiving my work situation.  I’m still undecided whether it was an aspect of myself or of another individual but either way he was familiar, he was more afraid than I, and I was able to reassure him so that he could then dissipate. Or maybe you sense something that I’m not aware of.  I have many things to ponder but trust that eventually I’ll get some insight into what these guideposts are all about. 

Thanks for the tip to become aware that I’m there even though my body is elsewhere and as a result I will remember more clearly.  It’s funny how when I did OBE exercises a number of years ago, I remember being high over the house, or more recently floating over walks or roads but never did have a realization that my actually body was still in bed.  Maybe I was afraid to look so that’s why I think you’re on to something when you suggest I realize that my body is home.  The cruise with my husband came as some sort of surprise gift but when we left our stateroom and went through the main doors, there were these security checkpoints side by side that we had to show proper ID before we could enter the main areas of the ship, to access the dining rooms, living rooms, etc. It was that feeling of disappointment that came over me because for me, Homeland Security represents a bureaucracy that is set up to inhibit free flow of individuals and deprive persons of their rights.  Although, it is true that I enjoy my home and after working a full week really don’t want to go anywhere and do have trouble taking the time to do the exercises on the tapes.  I’d rather putter, check out the board, do some cooking or shopping, sitting and think and reading, and go to bed by 8pm.  When I lie down or do the exercises, I tend to fear that my weekend will pass too quickly without me noticing it.  I wonder if that’s what this pattern of nightmares is all about before I can enjoy the crystal, PE and you guys, the library, etc.

It appears that I have to deal with unresolved issues within myself and see how I handle them.  It reminds me of training exercises.  What a bore but hey I’m game.  What ever it takes as long as I get there.  If that’s all true so far I’ve dealt with 1) my ethric/body being held back by force but let the other know that what I was doing was ok and not to be feared, 2) A larger more organized operation attempting to hold me back for getting where I desired to go and I impatiently breezed through that attempt but then it was followed by an annoying distraction which I reacted by getting annoyed enough to show I had no ulterior motives or anything to hid by exposing myself and got a unexpected outcome of admiration. 3) Became a victim of molestation (being coherence into something without my permission and feeling helpless) in a familiar house of my past…long story but actually it was my mother who was being seduced back in 1958 when I was still innocent but my reaction now was to get my mother to start the car (the car was actually in a room of the bedroom behind a curtain) and bring the baby? While I drove it through the house to escape while being pursued and then when on the road, it turned into a wonderful slim black motorcycle, which rode like the wind.  I felt exhilarated! 

It reminds me of one of Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey adventures.  So maybe these are the sorts of things I’ve had to conquer before I can get the chalice (to TMI and beyond) and maybe I’m doing what Lucy originally suggested after I reported the first in my trilogy of nightmares.

I wonder. Gotta’ go, didn’t sleep well at all last night. 

Jean