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What do you make of Sylvia Browne
Sep 6th, 2005 at 6:46am
 
I have read a couple of her books but I really don't know what to think about some of the things she claims.
It all started to smell a bit fishy for me when I read  her past lives book. Everything was going well until she regressed someone to a previous life in my country, Spain, a few centuries ago and gave him an italian name.
It is very common for foreigners to confuse our spaniard names and things with italian ones. We are very similar to italians anyway and I understand how those kind of mistakes can be made but that shouldn't be the case in a genuine past live regression.
I'm not saying she's a fraud or anything but I have the impression that she makes up half of the stuff she says. I listened to some radio programs where people would phone in and ask things like the name of their spirit guides and it sounds so much like she is just making them up as she goes.
Sometimes she comes up with the most bizarre names.
However, I do find sometimes her words uplifting. She can really shake me up inside so I don't know what to think.
Can anyone share their opinions with me?
Thank you .

Peace, love and light.

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Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 10:44am
 
Hi Sandra

I don't feel interested in Sylvia Browne though I've never understood exactly why. If she writes things that are meaningful to you, that's the part that matters. Maybe what you do with the information is more important than where it comes from. (Ugh! remind me that I said that the next time my mother gives me good advice!)

If I were to schedule a seesion with one of the famous ones (and there are less well-known people who might do just as well...or better) I would choose George Anderson over the others. I haven't read his recent books but the early books about him were interesting. I also heard a first-hand account of a session with him that was really incredible. Are you familiar with his work? Here is his website:

http://www.georgeanderson.com/indexa.htm

Of course, the idea for being here at Bruce's is to learn to get your/my own information!

Is it possible that Sylvia regressed someone to a person who was an immigrant? Not as likely then as now. But Spain has some interesting history. I thought I remembered reading about a time when there were Christian, Jewish and Muslim mystics all in one region (sorry I don't remember which one).

I don't like the times people phone in to a radio show and ask for advice from someone who is psychic...I always think it sounds corny...but what do I know? People seem to like that..they must get something out of it.
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Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 11:01am
 
Hi Lucy,
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with me.
I will definitely look at the website you suggested, always open to everything that can teach me something.
As for the man in Sylvia Browne's book. I do not think he was an inmmigrant because that would have been one of the first things to come up in the regression. He would have said something like I see myself in Spain but this isn't really the place where I was born.
And yes we were ruled by the arabs for 800 years That ended with the Catholic King Fernando and Queen Isabel that managed to throw them out. These very same King and Queen were the ones to finance Columbus trip to India that finally brought about the discovery of America in 1492.
Well I'll let you know how I get on with this George Anderson website.
Thank you again Lucy.

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Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 11:22am
 
For what it's worth, in my opinion she is one of the most transparent, phoniest "mediums" in the business.  She is never at loss for an answer to any question that someone asks, and gives the goofiest answers imaginable.  Sometimes she even has to suppress a grin, it gets so silly and outlandish.

I recall once she was on Larry King, and she was saying we all have guardian angels.  Larry asked if they have names.  She said of course.  He asked her what the name of his angel is.  With no hesitation she blurted out some name, totally at random, and he stared at her incredulously, and this time even she couldn't suppress her laughter. 

It's amazing that folks take this woman seriously.  She's having a great time, and must especially enjoy looking at her bank account. 

Check out her website if you have any spare cash to send her.  She'd love to take it.

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Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 11:53am
 
I don't know how all this exploring your past live regression stuff works but i do now from what i have read that sometimes in like OBE's for example words can get mixed up and we can interpret words slightly different, partly based on our perceptions.

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Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 11:56am
 
Hi Sandra

I got curious about the subject and then I went to Silvia’s web site. In my opinion about her “next 100 years predictions” something not fits once her main predictions are related to a better world. Example:

Can such statement
“…People will again find Spirituality, not so much in organized religion, but in the spiritual brotherhood of coming together and finding their Temple within…”

Came along side with the following one?

“…Execution for the death penalty will become a complete vaporization of the body…”

In my opnion it doesn’t make sense.

I don’t know her a lot once I live in Brazil.
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Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 12:21pm
 
Hi Sandra,

How funny.  Last night I was prompted to pick up a Sylvia Browne book I had languishing on my bookshelf.   Now I see this topic posted.   I have read a couple of her books with mild interest in the past.  To me she seems wholly in love with her own belief system about the afterlife.  I began reading her book "Life on the Other Side" yesterday to see what I would think of it after being on this website for a while.  I find her writing often humorous and basically "what people want to hear" but that is just my own opinion.  There must be some truth to her experience but as we always do she writes completely from her own point of view and that of her "channel" Francine.  There is little room there in her statements for an alternate perception of the afterlife experience. 

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Reply #7 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 3:23pm
 
Yes I do agree with the general opinion here. She's out to fill up her pockets, that's for sure.
She doesn't make a lot of sense when she talks the way she does but won't see anyone who isn't prepared to part with $700.
What happen to the rest of us whom can't afford that kind of money? Her gifts are not meant for the poor or what?.
I also agree that she tells what people want to hear. Probably that's how she got to me, because she gave me something to hold on too when I had nothing and I was sinking.
I think she has gone a bit far now by predicting the end of the world on 2100. She must be thinking who cares if people panic, by 2100 I will be long dead and people won't be able to get me when nothing happens. In the mean time she's having the time of her life with all the fame and money this brings her.
I do wonder if she even communicates with that guide of hers Francine.
She says she's on her last incarnation on earth but judging by the way she is living her life I think she still got loads to learn.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.
I'm just sorry for all those people that idolise her. She is playing with the feelings of good people
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Reply #8 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 5:00pm
 
Here is a sort of humorous story:

I stopped by her office for the fun of it to inquire about the fees for reading.  I found out that she had a two year waiting period and made some vague comment about her proving herself to the deck clerk:

Clerk: "She has already proved herself."  *Plus some comment of a commercial nature, perhaps*

Me:  "Well, if I were so psychic, I could do it for free!"

Clerk:  "How do you expect to make money?"

That comment about money really exposed things and I got very critical and left without any more comments.

Note that this memory is not claimed to be 100% accurate.  Lucky for me, I had been living in San Jose at the time and was within driving distance of the office.  This was even before I was aware of her scams I read about on Wikipedia.

What is annoying is how these people misrepresent legitimate Psychic and are hindering the development of legit. metaphysical studies.  This goes for any profession too.

Well, I'm kind of glad now that that 2 year period served as a kind of deterent.

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Reply #9 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 5:45pm
 
I'm rather nuetral on the subject of this author. I know I always look for the positive even when something negative is right in front of me...that's my problem, but that doesn't make me a good book reviewer lol.

I did read about half of her book but couldn't find, like, the higher spiritual thread that I like to quench my thirst with..it's more like superficial ideas that are being discussed, but not like inspirational stuff. I did get something good out of her book. where she explained that a soul can have points in the life where they can choose to exit the life, as many as 6 or 8 opportunities for this idea of "I'm out of here, enough of this!" kind of thought concept. I noticed that there are those close calls in people's lives, where they could leave, then they decide to stay. this happened to me about 5 or 6 times...close calls....so I related.
then I noticed all the close calls my own mother had, such as abortion, and she had an NDE, and chose to stay and there were guides around her as is usual the case. then later, she had all these strokes. she was pondering one day to me "I may as well die" she said. then I reminded her it's her choice, she said, "oh, that's right, it is my choice!" next day she was back to work as usual, at age 83. lol. I remember a cop telling me not to let her drive. Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 6:36pm
 
Hmm...when I would predict the end of the world in...let's say 2099, then I could make much money? Well, yes, tell the people first how they can grow old enough to reach 2099 and then how they can manage it to get the ETs to take them out in a flying saucer...
Sorry, creative but bad thoughts!
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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 8:59pm
 
I think Sylvia,brings in some truths through her work there is a goodness of intent behind what is written. But as with most channeled work, the entity has to deal with the consciousness level of the channel he/she is working with.

So what am I saying here, I believe she is genuine,but that her work is colored by her own beliefs.

Take from it what rings true to your soul and just leave the rest.

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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 9:12pm
 
I would have to agree with the last statement made,.  The fact that people are making money does not mean that the work is fraudulent  C'mon we all need to make a living and theres nothing wrong with success.   Don't tell me Bruce hasnt made some money from his books and lectures? And if hes made a lot Id be happy for him,. My point is that its ok to make money and doesnt make these spiritual authors illegitimate,.  I have read several of her books and I do agree that she is filtered by her own beliefs and many of her beliefs sound limiting to me.  However, I do think shes genuine to what she knows or channels through Francine and believes and dont believe shes trying to take everyone for a ride to make money.  I also do question sometimes how she can get an answer so quickly like a name of an angel etc,. 

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She doesn't make a lot of sense when she talks the way she does but won't see anyone who isn't prepared to part with $700...


By comparison, the Hilarion Reading is only $150, and each Reading comes packed with so much sense, that most individuals will take many listenings to digest and assimilate, and (the Reading) will be found to have powerful resonance and meaning over many years to come (with many sparks of enlightenment in between, eg. "Ahh, so this was what Hilarion was referring to in my Reading all those years ago...  wonderful, it helps me to understand my (karmic) issues much clearer now...").

Talk about value for money... then again, it's not about money, it's about something far more valuable - your life.


The Hilarion Reading :
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Reply #14 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 4:22am
 
Dear Spooky2,
When I said that she makes money after predicting the end of the world I meant indirectly.
Making a shocking claim like that would definitely get the attention of a large number of people and that would be a really inexpensive way of self-promotion. People want to hear more so she gets invited to even more shows, her book sales rate go through the roof. It doesn't matter that none of us will live to see the year 2100 still the subject is sensational enough to catch people's attention, and in my opinion that was her goal.
To those of you saying that it is OK to make some money I'll say yes but within reason.
If God gave her a gift to help others why is it that I will never be able to afford to benefit from that gift?.
How can you be helping people when you are charging $700 for a 20 minute over the telephone consultation.
I don't know if any of you are familiar with Dr. Mark Pitstick but he's fantastic. He charged me $70 for an hour long phone consultation and for a period of time he kept in touch by email before and after the consultation. I felt he genuinely cared.
He still makes a living and by charging reasonably he's giving everyone who needs help a chance.

I listened once to a Sylvia Browne program with a live audience. Someone said to her "Please Sylvia could you talk to my mother" she answers "Honey you can talk to her yourself, she can hear you". Then this person in the audience informs her she really meant talk to my mother who is here with me sitting in the audience.Grin Sylvia then tries to make a joke to fix it and says. "I know, I told you you could talk to her. She can hear you". Embarrassed
This is what happens sometimes when she starts firing back her answers, she might not hear the whole questions and then people get to see how she can answer questions so very fast. She is making it all up as she goes....
Maybe she is not a total fraud but it certainly looks like it sometimes, doesn't it?.

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Reply #15 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 5:30am
 
This is so funny.
I just got an email from Sylvia Browne's site with offers and discounts on it. They got my details from when I emailed them a while ago requesting information about readings.
It is hilarious that I should get this now that I am complaining about her charges.
Is she a secret member of this board? Hahahahahaha, is she trying to prove to me she really is a psychic? Grin Hahahahahahahaha
I know this email is just for marketing purpouses and was probably sent to every single person the had an email address for but still the timing was so perfect. It made me laugh out loud so I though I'd share it with you.

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Reply #16 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 11:22am
 
yes, I laughed right along with you..I counted the number of ha ha's Grin and chuckled because I could tell by that you really have a good sense of humor there...I am a silly one too..otherwise I would not post this! love, alysia
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I think it was about 10 years ago when I first started to hear about Sylvia Browne.....she used to give me the creeps at first......I don't know, she had a kind of satanic like ( if you will) feel about her. Sometimes I get strange feelings about people....
I was interested in her at first to feel her out....to see if she was on the level and all.....and after awhile, I started to see thru her....and from my own feeling about her, I don't think that she is as credible as she portrays.
Yes, she does seem to get close to the jackpot at times....but it seems to be mostly a hit and miss with her.....I agree, she guesses alot.
You can tell when she is dragging and can't come up with an answer.....she will pass the buck on to the person she is speaking to and more or less, have you answer your own question.
I have no interest in her anymore....I completely think she is a fraud.....and yes, she is enjoying her big fat bank account.
There is one medium that I still like to watch when I can and that is John Edwards.....he is much more sincere in his readings. In my opinion he is good, honest and I don't believe that he is out to pump out all the answers that he can, whether he has them or not. If he can't answer something, he will tell you.
The bottom line is that everyone is out to make money. Whether it is Sylvia, John Edwards or even Linn........some may have the gift of readings better than the other...and then some just don't have it at all.......and still charge you an arm and a leg.
I believe that each of us has our own ability to give ourselves the answers that we need....we don't need to pay someone else for them.
A 'real' medium is rare....there are far more who are pretending...the money is too good to pass to up!
A real medium can give you the answers to solving a crime.....not vague answers either.
We can speak to those loved ones who have passed on.....and we can get many answers to life's complexities just by tuning into ourselves and learning to 'listen' and 'hear' the anwers that we get........we don't need to pay someone big bucks to do all this for us.
And even as far as John Edwards is concerned, I am still somewhat leary with him too even tho I find him to be more sincere in what he says.
I can never get a that picture out of my head where the medium is getting directions to ask specific questions and to give specific answers with the help of a little 'aid' in his ear........while he has had people scanning the crowd and listening in on converstations.......
Geeze...just like the healing sermons that go on in some churches and people getting healed and pushed over to the ground...............come on people.
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Listen to yourself for the answers.....you can never let yourself down and you can never give yourself exaggerated answers.........
And lastly, there are some answers to things that we are just not supposed to have the answers too.
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Reply #18 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 11:45am
 
I have to disagree with the tone here a little bit.

I have enjoyed watching John Edwards on TV.  I don't know his personal methods but I have read that he subjected himself to rigorous testing, as have some other mediums, and they had very high accuracy.

There have always been mediums.  People want them.  Although everyone might not choose to get their hair done for $100 at a salon and may go home and use a box from the store, it doesn't make one right and the other wrong.  And if you don't like the results at one salon you can go to another. 

For some people seeing a medium is a valid exploration of possibility, just like any other spiritual search.

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Reply #19 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 12:21pm
 
People have always wanted to know and will always continue to want to know, the kind of information that mediums can provide. And as long as people continue wanting to know, there will always be mediums around.
I am not condeming 'all' mediums......there are some good and legitimate ones out there. In my opinion, most of them are fakes....and Sylvia Browne is right alongside that class...I think she is merely good guesswork. John Edwards, I think, is in a different league altogether. His work captures my attention. I think he is the real thing.
The difference between who is right and who is wrong, is how capable the medium is at getting the knowledge....many get bits and peices right and then fake the rest.....like, Sylvia.......others get bits and peices and then admitt they can't get anymore....like, John......
then there are those who are just plain fakes.
So there is a difference between one being wrong from the other being right.
The other difference is the exuberant amount of money that you will pay out and if you aren't getting real information, then that is wrong too.
I don't know about anyone else, but I would get a little cranky over paying $700 for guesswork.
And yes, it is true that for many people, medium work is a valid exploration of the afterlife...and that is because, the real mediums can provide that type of accuracy and knowledge.
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Reply #20 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 12:42pm
 
.........I also believe that there are some things that we are just no supposed to know...like the end of the world. People have been predicting the end of the world for eons. Well, we are still here today.
For Sylvia to predict the end of the world in what year she has claimed, I guess for today, she doesn't need to worry about how she will clean the egg off her face when that predicted year comes and passes like all the rest have over the world's history....she won't be alive in that day.

I will always stand firm on my belief, that we can make our own spiritual connections with the deceased, with angels, guides, etc.....we don't need to have a medium do it for us. For what we need to know, is at our nose length to find it.
Some have a stronger grasp on getting certain information, hence, a good medium comes in handy...but for the most part, we can all talk to our loved ones who have crossed over.......people just don't trust their own information that they do get...and therefore, depend on a second opinion from a medium....then they find it a reliable source of received information.
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Reply #21 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 12:42pm
 
You say we can explore ourselves, and i know this for sure now! lol but i wouldn't mind visiting a medium, purly for the experience so if anyone knows of a real decent medium in England you will have to let us know! or where i can find out.

I would like to see if something comes though, specially from my Grandad, i have only found a new way to explore which can pretty much be acieve every day as far as i understand! So i'm sure ill make contact soon, well i hope so! would still like to visit but wouldn't want to pay too much fo someone to take me for a ride....wouldn't be impressed! lol

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Reply #22 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 12:43pm
 
Yes, I see what you mean, Mystic,

and it is also about celebrity and our worship of celebrity in our culture.  A huge value is placed on celebrity of all kinds beyond common sense, and I think that is a little bit of what you are speaking to.

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Reply #23 - Sep 7th, 2005 at 2:10pm
 
My I-there tried to do a phone reading with her, but when she found out how many I's it has, she wanted to charge $700 for each I.  Forget it. Especially since only a few of us make money these days.
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I like your style, Recoverer....

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Reply #25 - Sep 8th, 2005 at 8:30am
 
Dear recoverer,
I love your sense of humor. I think your approach is the best and I for one will be taking a leaf out of your book next time.
And dear Alysia, I am most definitely a silly one. Humor is a very good philosophy. I did hear somewhere that laughter is therapeutic and who am I to disobey the doctor, eh?

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Reply #26 - Sep 8th, 2005 at 8:50am
 
Thank you blink and southern star.  I also tell dumb jokes at times. So I apologize in advance, just in case I ever tell one.
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Hi everyone,

I have always been sceptical of Sylvia Browne, but lost all respect after seeing her on Larry King once or twice. She promoted one of those New Age beliefs that everyone completely plans out their lives before birth...so victims of crime or disaster planned and desired for it to happen...and mega-rich "psychically gifted" people like her planned to be comfortable celebrities. If this were true then why should we put murderers in prison if they were just helping their victim achieve a life plan? Ok, that's another argument for another thread probably.

Another thing I didn't like about her on Larry King (which goes along with the above belief) was that she said we have *NO* free choice in physical life...only in the spirit world do beings have free choice. I suppose my personal beliefs and assumptions are just too much at odds with hers.
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Reply #28 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 2:37pm
 
Sorry esh, but all of what she said there is true, all is planed through the ethers,free will is only found in the astral as all agreements are made there,and lived out here in the physical. But to some degree you can change these agreements by not fulfilling your part, but heres the tricky thing, you will continue to repeat the agreement until it is fulfilled. So free will who's to really know.
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My only question is, how do you actually KNOW that all of what SB said is true? 

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Reply #30 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 5:40pm
 
Perhaps we always have free will, in the physical and in the astral?  Any conscious being has free will, so does it matter where you are when you decide to use it?

I believe we plan stuff for ourselves and make agreements before coming into the physical, but I still believe we have free will here.  The planning is only a guideline, a parameter, but we still have to do all the work that is involved.  If we don't accomplish what we planned to do, then we can choose to do it again in another life.  But these are just my thoughts. 


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Reply #31 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 6:00pm
 
I've stayed out of this discussion about Sylvia Browne.  I can remember about 3 years ago or so when Bruce had a chat and there was a woman psychic in the chatroom too. I'm not sure who it was, could have been Sylvia Browne. All I can remember is that Bruce never had a chance to answer anything much. The woman would jump in on ALL questions. She had a lot of her followers with her in the chat. I can't say for sure who she was.  However, I had bought 3 of her books and I never could bring myself to read them. I couldn't figure out what it was, but I felt like guidance was telling me no. I'd pick one up and try to get started and always have this feeling that it was a waste of time.  I've since sold the books. So I can't really say one way or the other. But I have seen her on TV and I didn't feel comfortable with her answers. She seemed very flippant about it. I don't like to say anything negative about someone else, so perhaps I was mirroring something in her that I don't like about myself. 

Does anyone here remember who the psychic woman was in the chat with Bruce?

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Reply #32 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 6:01pm
 
Hi, I think the concept of free will (vs. determination) is a trap. There are unsolvable logically and semantic contradictions in it, no matter if in physical or nonphysical reality. But sorry, I cannot tell you a different concept except no concept.
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Reply #33 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 6:07pm
 
Mairlyn, I've wanted to stay out of this one too, but I am bored and want to talk about SOMETHING. 

I have several of her books too but have never felt comfortable with her either.  I might like and agree with some of what I read, but then I will read stuff that I either don't agree with or I feel it sounds fake. 

I believe she does have psychic ability but some of what she does seems put on.  And all the times I've seen her on Montel, she seems like she is really bored being there.  Always short, quick answers and the audience is just loving it.  It doesn't seem personal at all to me. 
So about that chat room experience, how did Bruce react to it or handle it?  I would be annoyed by that.
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Reply #34 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 6:12pm
 
Bruce is too much of a gentlemen to say anything about it, but I was feeling what I felt he was feeling......disgust. Nothing was ever said about it at all that I ever read.

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel like that about SB and I don't like to judge. I agree totally that when I've seen her on Montel, she does seem very bored with it all.

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Reply #35 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 7:13pm
 
Rob, what can i tell you,for one I have experienced all of what was said and I know that this is how it all works. One thing to be very aware of, is the energy of return most often called cause and effect,or karma, I can assure you all energy out put will indeed be returned. You can not and I stress can not avoid this return.For good or bad.

I think thats why souls who are coming close to completion of there evolution here have such a hard time, for one they don't want to create any dept and two they are clearing there left over karma. So if your having a hard time in this incarnation give thanks ,as completion is near.
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Reply #36 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 7:19pm
 
Marilyn,

I agree with your misgivings about SB.  It is commonplace to dismiss a whole genre of ADC communication on the basis of its worst examplar.  I've been tempted to dismiss mediumship on that basis, but, upon further reflection, feel I must distinguish SB from the more validated mediumship of some of the classical mediums of the 20th century.  Paul Beard's book, "Living On", is the most compelling book on channeling I've ever read.

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Reply #37 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 8:23pm
 
I don't see why so many people get worked up over anothers path.Through our lives we all encounter truth,and we all encounter lies or some may say darkness.For each there is a purpose,you can grow through both.

One thing I have noticed is when a soul speaks there truth and it dose not resonate with what someone Else believes, there is an energy that comes forward from the believer,this energy is one of contempt and righteousness.Yet the truth speaker feels none of this energy for the differences is one knows the truth and one believes they know.
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Re: What do you make of Sylvia Browne
Reply #38 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 11:13pm
 
Thanks Don. I put the book on my wish list at amazon.com.  Have 83 books on my wish list now. LOL  I'm happy to hear that you're not dismissing ALL mediums.  There's hope for you yet Don.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 10:05am
 
Marilyn and all,

I too never really felt comfortable with SB and my experiences with two psychics, one from Great Britain and the other local, were ok but not too helpful.  I admit that I’m sort of a do it myself kind of person.  But I did sit in on one session with my husband when a psychic from Chicago came down to Florida to do readings.  I remember the part where she identified my husband and his former wife being a priest and nun in a former expression/experience together Roll Eyes.  This definitely rang true with my life with him, explained more than I care to know Tongue.  But it was helpful.  Too much to go into here and off topic.  Anyhow, I did read John Edwards most recent book and realize why someone like him would do a quality reading as opposed to Sylvia and I would trust him more, if I were looking for a psychic.  John is very aware of, using Bruce’s term, “interpreter overlay”, and readily admits to it whereas SB may not.  I think that I have enough trouble with my own perception polluting what I see and don’t really want to add to the problem by introducing even more confusion with another’s input.  Still, sometimes it would be nice to have a trusted other to tell me all about myself, how I should to live, what action to take, what to belief but then if I did have that, I would be skeptical  Roll Eyesand still have to do all the hard work of living my life and understanding my focus, purpose, etc. Tongue Grin

Meanwhile, I will say that using Bruce’s relaxation techniques coupled with Alysia’s guided steps from The Child Waited, is IMO a perfect way to for me to gain access to the type of information I need at this time that some would normally seek from a psychic Wink. Plus it’s free. Grin

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Re: What do you make of Sylvia Browne
Reply #40 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 10:57am
 
Jean, I too like John Edwards and feel he is very real. I remember first seeing him on TV, couldn't believe it was on the Sci Fi channel (what a place for non-fiction LOL). I was just learning to do retrievals then.

There are other non-famous psychics who are also right on. One is our Linn Conyers, another is Sharon McGrath, my former housemate in Oregon. I'm sure there are many now as more and more people are awakening to who they are.

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Reply #41 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 5:02pm
 
I hope I haven't given anyone the wrong I'd here. I'm not in anyway saying all that Sylvia has written is right and true, in-fact when I did try and read her work well I found it waffled on, so I skimmed over most of it. I don't believe anyone soul has all the answers.We are all just working through our set programs,each with our gifts pre designed.

I believe there is a very valid lesson to be learned,when it comes to looking outside ourselves for answers,that lesson is to evaluate what's in-front of you,using your own inner guidance.
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Reply #42 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:21am
 
I think that she is not all that confident about herself. She has been offered $1 million, by major skeptic James Randi, if she can prove she is genuine and after agreeing to be tested on national television (Larry King), he is still waiting to hear from her.
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If she is not sure of herself how can anyone else be?.

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Reply #43 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 10:23am
 
Southern_Star, I think it was Randi that called in to Larry King about this when Sylvia was on once. He asked why she wouldn't do it, and she answered that she would if he put the money in "escrow"...meaning, I suppose, he needs to first officially show he has the money for this challenge. That actually sounded sort of sensible to me  Shocked
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Reply #44 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 10:27am
 
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Interesting question. I believe it's all in how a psychic presents him/herself.

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Reply #45 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:24pm
 
Dear Esh,
You are absolutely right. James Randi contacted Larry king after the request for a escrow was made.
His intention was to deposit this money with Larry King to prove the funds were available and for Larry to pay Sylvia Browne if she past all the tests.
The problem is he is still waiting  to hear anything from Larry King, anyone of his crew, or Sylvia Browne for this matter.
Basically, Sylvia Browne agreed to everything just because she was on television but when the momment of thruth came she couldn't face the music.
Sad really, but then again she wouldn't want to see her credibility down the drain. People wouldn't pay as much to see a fraud now, would they?.

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Reply #46 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 7:12pm
 
I'm not a Sylvia fan, but I think Randi is hostile to the possibility that any of this might be real and would do all he could to tear anyone who took his challenge to shreds. Since it seems to me that part of being able to connect to those not in C1 is opennness, I can see that it might be hard to work with a Randi.

Proof for this stuff is possibly more stringent under Randi's direction than,say, anything the FDA asks from a drug manufacturer. Physicians have routinely been taught to do things that were done because it was someone's opinion that it was good, and it got passed on without any scientific evidence that it was good, without question for years. If they were held to the same level of confirmation in what they do as Randi would hold Sylvia to, how much in their arsenal of techniques would they be able to do? Why are there two levels of proof...one for medicine and one for afterlife.

There are people I would trust to be accurate much more than Sylvia and they haven't answered the challenge either. This is a real sticky issue but it is hard to have a discussion on it.

One of the problems is that in science, you have to get agreement on what different words mean or what you will accept as proof, and that agreement doesn't exist in this area.

I don't want to see Randi can Sylvia because that would be a knock against everyone else who does this work.

The important thing is, what do you believe and why. What can you do with it?
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Reply #47 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 7:28pm
 
One thing that I have always wondered about people like Sylvia is why they can't give a specific answer in a crime investigation. They can give all kinds of other answers about other things, which may be darn good guesswork, but when it comes to a specific answer, in the form of a name or address, etc, they fall short.
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Reply #48 - Sep 13th, 2005 at 5:51am
 
Dear Lucy you could be right but she is making it all worse by ignoring Randi. Probably she is giving him just what he wants.
She could put herself in the hands of Gary E. Schwartz for example. He is the Ph. D. author of The Afterlife Experiments. A very serious impartial person that would not try to make it look anything that it wasn't. That would put a stop to the nonsense but somehow she just chooses to ignore everything which doesn't look good because she claimed on national television she had no problem at all in being tested. It looks to me like she has got something to hide. I don't know.

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Reply #49 - Sep 15th, 2005 at 11:49am
 
Hmm, yes I've seen her on Larry King once. Larry inquired where Hitler was now, he if there was a Hell and that's were he'd gone. Sylvia said she was certain Hitler had reincarnated again, because she believed the earth plane was hell.
Many people who are having a rough time in this physical world might agree, but I still think that is an odd statement.
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Reply #50 - Sep 15th, 2005 at 3:35pm
 
Yes, It is her theory that all dark entities after dying go through the horse shoe effect. Meaning there is no place for them in the afterlife and they must reencarnate inmediately.
This way they have no chance of learning and evolving towards the light, so when the end of times comes they will just be reabsorved into the light of God.
The amazing thing is how she can keep a straight face throughout her explanation Smiley...

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Reply #51 - Sep 15th, 2005 at 4:23pm
 
Going off topic a little, but I remember someone on the board went out there to look for Hitler. I think this was mentioned a couple of years ago, don't recall by whom. Anyway, he or she had mentioned seeing Hitler in an unconscious state. He had shut down because he couldn't handle the vibration of love, and guides were working on him.

That one resonates with me.. maybe he also had caught a glimpse of the consequences of his actions.
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Reply #52 - Sep 15th, 2005 at 4:48pm
 
This made me laugh.

[quote author=Southern_Star The amazing thing is how she can keep a straight face throughout her explanation Smiley...

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