Hello:

Even though I've had spirit contact in many ways-dreams, visions, statements made by voices, being touched, flashing stars, experiences, intuitions, understandings, mental messages and dialogues-I have yet to have a prolonged dialogue that I can hear, nor have I seen a guide (except perhaps the first time I astral projected years ago).

Part of the reason for this might be that I still feel a little spooked about having a lenghty conversation with a voice I hear, or seeing a spirit.

Some people say that you can determine the authenticity of guide by what they communicate to you,  and by whether they try to force something on you.

Some people say that guides radiate love in a manner than enable you to trust them right away. Sometimes a guide will seem familiar.

For anybody who reads this post, what kind of initial experience did you have with a guide? Thank you for your help.

Hi Recoverer-
The guide you get seems to be the guide who is like you, or who fulfils your desires.

In regressions into the spirit state I often ask people to call out for a guide to find the resources in spirit, such as "the place of all knowledge". Only once was there a guide who seemed peculiar, dark hood, red eyes, led the woman through an iron gate into a castle where the "owner" tried to get her to join with him and stay forever. It took a change of her attitude to get her out of there.

The manner of communication seems to be pretty much any way you want. My Dad died in California, came to my office in Washington and told me a joke telepathically. No visible image, but I could see the network of connections that he was part of. (Rather than "disks" that Bruce saw, I saw "roots" because I'm tuned in on connective relationships, as opposed to substantive objectivations) Then he faded back into the tangle of interconnections.

Many people "hear" spirits talking, others see symbols, often people get their "book of life" and jump into the pictures to see what they're about, or they "read" the writing (most refer to it as some kind of symbolic representation that carries a dynamic quality) by putting their hand over the writing and "osmosing" the meaning. In spirit, many people I worked with have hired new guides who communicate in whatever mode their employer desires.

In my own everyday world I personally simply sense messages as "hunches", as if the message is telepathic. The "guide" I prefer is my image of God-Mind, so that makes sense. When I sense others, I generally "hear" them telepathically, which to me makes sense, since our primary awareness is affective, not rational. (For example, your stomach comunicates hunger by sensation, an affect, not as a symbol.) Otherwise, what I have chosen as a communication mode is a sort of symbolic logic and math that my "hunches" seem to produce readily, and that I can write down. This seems to arise from a large number of externally discrete individuals with radically different handwriting.

As far as I can tell, there's no danger in using a guide so long as you know it's a guide, and retain personal self-direction, instead of allowing the "guide" to become a dominant force. It's the cart versus horse idea. If you don't want to "hear voices", then select a guide, or mode of guidance, that gives you insights, feelings, a display of external symbolic messages ("Umm, two crows flying South. Must be time to phone my friend about that trip to Cancun.") or whatever you prefer.

dave

Thanks Kardec. All those books, and there's a lot of them, are free in PDF form. That's great. 

Love, Mairlyn

thats funny you brought up this question recoverer, as I was posting this thought on Linn's forum, which is sort of a branch off of this one.

I love this story: back in the 80's I was a reader of books as I am now. I had read about when the student was ready the teacher would appear. life at the time did not seem to be worth much. I thought to myself, well, I have heard of master teachers on the other side. I would surely like one of those for myself but I have also heard that the master will not come unless you are ready. and besides, I thought further, I am sure my vibrations are much too gnarly to attract a good teacher, that the master did not come to those who could not hear the truth. then I forgot I thought those things and kept reading, hoping to get enlightened or a tip here and there. then one day in my kitchen, I was rushing around doing stuff, multi tasking and juggling this n that sort of and I heard clearly in my head a thought inserted "I am with you now." a male vibration sound, but not audible to the physical ear. I stopped in my tracks and wondered if there would be more. there was not more. just that. I got a happy feeling then because the master had arrived and that meant I was not as gnarly as I thought in my vibrations or he would not say I am with you now. it's so good that we can be accepted just as we are, to enter like this, is like being loved, well, it is being loved. this a good thread, maybe we have some stories to tell? love, alysia

Hey,

Talking about guides I don't know what this is but quite interesting to me. On my first retrival witht the flooding i can't remember whether i met this person before or afterwards or during....And i forgot to mention in the post but remembered afterwards but then just kept for another time, which is now! lol

Well anyway what happened was in front of me suddenly was a man, and i can remember how he looked, shaven head, seemed quite small, glasses and wore a red/yellowy type robe, he also seemed japanese i think. If i can say one person who i instanty think of when i think of him is the dali lama (sorry if name spelt wrong). That charisma, wisdom and just look this person had about them. Well i felt like i was above the scene, like in the clouds if you like, the scene was below me and this person was giving me guidence, I cannot remember the word spoken but it was seirous, but in a calm way. The man was also in front of a temple but as he was more in my view, like in my face view lol i didn't get to see much else around him. Maybe this was so i would remember the conversation....didn't work! lol wish i could. Would this be a contact with my guide or a guide??

Ryan

Ryan,

Yes I think this was a guide for you.  It is nice when we can remember the conversation but it doesn't always happen that way.  Perhaps his presence was his guidance for you and he was allowing you to move about on your own.  It will be interested to find out if you see or feel him again next time. 

When I met a Chinese man in a dream I knew he was a teacher and a guide.  He whispered something in my ear that made so much sense but he wasn't speaking in English, and I am not even sure what he was speaking.  But the words didn't matter because I knew what he was saying by the feeling I got from them.   
I'm sure if you think about it you will be able to remember the feelings that you got from him.

Vicky:

What you say makes a lot of sense, and I'm thinking along the same lines. For instance, I pay attention to my dreams closely, and what I see and experience in them say more than words can.

Regarding guidance, even since yesterday I received quite a bit. My guidance is really helping me out. It's teaching me how to rely on my heart. It's a good thing that I don't have to rely on my little bio computer.

As I implied, I haven't met mine face to face so I can have a long conversation with them. Nevertheless, I'm getting a lot of support from them in different ways.

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