Quote:Uhhh, Truseeker...
The late Pope was a fine man, no doubt...
But I'm a bit skeptical over whether he REALLY
looked upon suffering as a "gift."
John Paul II was a very compassionate man, and
I believe he sincerely wanted to make a difference
in the world.
But we must accept the fact that he had to operate
within the strict confines of an extremely dogmatic
religion (Roman Catholic.) This church has used the
"suffering as a gift" line now for two millennia. But
note it is always the POOR who are allowed this
"gift" in the most generous portions.
Please note that the Church high-ups seldom volunteer for the "gift" of suffering... when was the
last time you saw a starving priest, or even one in
a hair shirt?
So, I doubt that the Pope viewed suffering as a "gift"... more likely a necessary (for whatever reason) evil.
That being said, I hope he found his heaven (and I hope the Catholic Church is WRONG about the nature of the universal afterlife, for what it's worth...)
I wasn't referring to "the church" but to the man and the spritual force obviously present IMO within him. Yes the poor suffer and yes the rich suffer too. Everyone suffers.
No one can seem to get past that rich or poor thing. That whole money thing. Very sad.
I have known poor people who are much happier than those who are rich. For those who are willing it can be an opportunity for spiritual enlightenment. Otherwise, what is all the fasting for? The point of leaving everything behind and making a pilgrimage to serve others? Seems contradictory to what this "afterlife" stuff is about.
I came here searching for like minded people and to learn about spiritual enlightenment. But I don't feel that here so I will be moving on now.
Good luck your in quests.