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The great divide
Jun 10^th, 2017 at 1:42pm

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Tucker Carlsson on Kathy Griffin & victimhood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr8Ei-QUkOg

Tucker Carlsson on Black Lives Matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khCtSPO6KCE

Tucker Carlsson on Muslim safe spaces
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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #1 - Jun 10^th, 2017 at 2:16pm The Rubin Report - The left is no longer liberal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq86Beh3T70 The Rubin Report - Don't let free speech be held hostage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDEgCEZDkTI The Rubin Report - Female Genital Mutilation and “Islamophobia” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehgOCJzwZw
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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #2 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 2:49pm Why you love capitalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQS1m8pT1Wk Laura Loomer asks anti-Trump witch to cast spell against ISIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yVYnfR10KM
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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #4 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 8:34pm http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/why-ban-a-film-just-because-we-dont-...
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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:45am The left-right political spectrum explained https://youtu.be/Vs1qOBy8GzY The difference between your right and left brain https://youtu.be/vIAqErC-m_Q Males and females explained https://youtu.be/nRvb0VGS3RM
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Reply #6 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 4:53am

What is dualism? (1 comment)
https://youtu.be/VZY9F2EPtnU

What is duality?
https://youtu.be/7I_Q9bOc7o0

Hunting high and low (Norwegian pop anno 1985)
https://youtu.be/s6VaeFCxta8

Christian scientists on science and faith
https://youtu.be/W8XmXSMxXHQ

The atheist experience
https://youtu.be/0Lkhfjxk4vE

Is the Christian faith reasonable?
https://youtu.be/QCkZOzJkeTo

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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #7 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:24pm The cover of female innocence and victimhood might soon be blown. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/why-arent-we-talking-about-abusi...
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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:45pm Funny American can't understand English. http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/robert-irwin-leaves-host-stev...
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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #9 - Jun 19^th, 2017 at 11:05am Where does hatred come from? https://youtu.be/b71NgkRdN1k A simple act https://youtu.be/a7nFz44bIGg Everything is amazing and nobody is happy https://youtu.be/q8LaT5Iiwo4 Joy https://youtu.be/rp03AorAWLY Simple living https://youtu.be/3ODu2RZIuXk
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Reply #10 - Jun 20^th, 2017 at 4:29am

Yes, we live in a golden age with a greater proportion of the world's people having all their needs met than ever before, and in the west even the poor live better than the nobility of the past. This is the time of the discontented.

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Karen Berg is pretty right in essence. But plenty of people have the ability to give but instead they keep and continue to hate.
Jealousy precedes nearly all hatred. I realise that does not make immediate sense because some people seem to have it all and still hate. But jealousy comes in many kinds. Irrespective of who is wealthier or poorer, there exists by their natures the contented and the discontented, and the discontented are jealous of the contented and hate them. Contented people, be them rich or poor, don't hate. Living standard has little to do with whether one is contented or discontented. It is a heart thing.

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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #11 - Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:45am Those two on the Atheist Experience don't seem very bright. They would fail basic logic. My three best male friends are Christian atheists.
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Reply #12 - Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:42pm

Thanks for the comments and food for thought 1796.

"My three best male friends are Christian atheists."

Believes in God but doesn't act like he exists, had not thought about the term Christian atheist before. I've grown a faith in God gradually, and have started to realize that creation is awesome, in the true sense of the word. I used to consider Jesus as an astral creation due to people giving energy to an image of what they believe in, but have become open to at least the possibility that there is more to it, quite opposite of the past. I simply cannot deny the teaching you have presented about love and forgiveness, it makes too much sense and there is so much heart to it. I'm contented to be around Christians now and I'm glad there are unconventional Christians too.

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Reply #13 - Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:43pm

Israelis: How much do you hate Palestinians?
https://youtu.be/r5168ysQ2rU

Born to Hate Jews
https://youtu.be/xCQEmeGfFmY

Is It OK to Hate Someone?
https://youtu.be/OZVvPZCVbM4

The Thinkquisition is Here
https://youtu.be/UkNqrl5GEc0

Do We Have Free Will?
https://youtu.be/bDkLUBdvOkw

God and Suffering
https://youtu.be/cNtz5wgnopQ

Forgiveness
https://youtu.be/6xsVM_gd0Tc

Just say no
https://youtu.be/hCRDskZrUMU

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Reply #14 - Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:37pm

Uno wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Thanks for the comments and food for thought 1796.

"My three best male friends are Christian atheists."

Believes in God but doesn't act like he exists, had not thought about the term Christian atheist before. I've grown a faith in God gradually, and have started to realize that creation is awesome, in the true sense of the word. I used to consider Jesus as an astral creation due to people giving energy to an image of what they believe in, but have become open to at least the possibility that there is more to it, quite opposite of the past. I simply cannot deny the teaching you have presented about love and forgiveness, it makes too much sense and there is so much heart to it. I'm contented to be around Christians now and I'm glad there are unconventional Christians too.

I used to have very similar thoughts regarding Jesus. This was before I did honest research into the matter and learned that there is more evidence for his existence than for most other historical figures of that time. In fact, questioning Jesus' historical existence is laughed at even by most secular historians. Further research and contemplation made it clear that the biblical accounts of Jesus' life and deity were likewise true. My personal doubts mainly stemmed from a strong anti-Christian bias and trust in deceptive sources spreading disinformation.

Since surrendering myself to God and putting my faith in Christ, I've seen more tangible spiritual growth and had more profound spiritual experiences in a matter of months than I experienced in over a decade of meditation, out of body travel, occult/metaphysical studies and other "spiritual" practices. I say this not to brag or even talk about myself, but to witness to you that He is the truth and the way so that you may one day be with Him too.

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Reply #15 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:15am

Uno wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Thanks for the comments and food for thought 1796.

"My three best male friends are Christian atheists."

Believes in God but doesn't act like he exists, had not thought about the term Christian atheist before. I've grown a faith in God gradually, and have started to realize that creation is awesome, in the true sense of the word. I used to consider Jesus as an astral creation due to people giving energy to an image of what they believe in, but have become open to at least the possibility that there is more to it, quite opposite of the past. I simply cannot deny the teaching you have presented about love and forgiveness, it makes too much sense and there is so much heart to it. I'm contented to be around Christians now and I'm glad there are unconventional Christians too.

Actually, I mean those friends are atheists who consider themselves Christians because they believe in the moral teachings of the new testament.

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The Virgin Mary is largely a thought form like that, but she has become a living force with a life of her own. Her occult history is fascinating. I might write about it one day.

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Regarding my teachings. Mostly I just define terms, then let the definitions teach by themselves.
Nearly all of teaching any subject well is definitions, because everything there is to know about something is contained within its definition.

Liars and those who shy from truth dislike definitions, and avoid defining their terms. They prefer flexible language so they can be vague and slippery. If we speak the truth and define our terms as we go, then the opposition gets annoyed indeed.

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Reply #16 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:15am

1796 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:15am:

Actually, I mean those friends are atheists who consider themselves Christians because they believe in the moral teachings of the new testament.

Have you informed them what it means to be a Christian? An atheist who follows the moral principles of Christ is still just an atheist and is no more saved than any other atheist. Faith in Christ is not optional!

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Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:37am

I Am Dude wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:15am:

1796 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:15am:

Actually, I mean those friends are atheists who consider themselves Christians because they believe in the moral teachings of the new testament.

Have you informed them what it means to be a Christian? An atheist who follows the moral principles of Christ is still just an atheist and is no more saved than any other atheist. Faith in Christ is not optional!

Let me play the devil's advocate. Tell me:

What does it mean to be Christian?

Saved? Saved from what?

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Reply #18 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:05am

I believe that being a Christian means that you truly desire to live like Christ because you have compete faith in his deity and sacrifice for your sins. When we put our trust in Christ as our God and savior we are saved from God's just punishment for a life of debauchery and sin by the endowment of His grace, being made righteous not of our own acts but by the love and glory of God. These are perhaps the most fundamental of Christian concepts. I thought you were a Christian?

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Reply #19 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:34am

Dude,

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Since surrendering myself to God and putting my faith in Christ, I've seen more tangible spiritual growth and had more profound spiritual experiences in a matter of months than I experienced in over a decade of meditation, out of body travel, occult/metaphysical studies and other "spiritual" practices. I say this not to brag or even talk about myself, but to witness to you that He is the truth and the way so that you may one day be with Him too.

I'm glad to be a witness of your good news and I wish you well as you continue to grow.

Slow but determined, that's me in a nutshell, and I trust that I'll be able to discern the good and proper way forward.

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I thought you were a Christian?

Devils advocate - arguing a position you do support genuinely, even if just a little bit. It's not necessarily arguing 'for' or 'against' - it could be either, or none. 1796 is first and foremost an Aussie, and/or a lover of bacon.

Kidding of course, but on a more serious note I've thought about a starting a thread with atheist/non-Christian questions directed at any Christians who would like to answer.

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Reply #20 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:59pm

I have not viewed everything on this thread. Just a few. Seems like an interesting assortment.

Just a quick aside to Dude.

Dude, if you were born in some part of this world in which you would not have been exposed to Christianity, or any religion, how would you progress?

My thought: most likely, by trial and error, and by moments of inspiration, wherever they might be.

Life has a number of peak moments. If this is one for you, then I can respect that. It doesn't mean I will choose your way, and that's okay too.

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I Am Dude Super Member Offline Posts: 1462 Gender:	Re: The great divide Reply #21 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:40pm If one fails to consider the possible ramifications of ignoring God's word and rejecting Christ's sacrifice for our sins, then I can see why one would think such a path is acceptable. However, if the Bible is true, then this person will eventually run into trouble.
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seagullresting Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 137 USA	Re: The great divide Reply #22 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:54pm Yes, a person might run into trouble. In any case, people do run into trouble, in general. I have been in big trouble lots of times. Most of the time, it would be through my own choices made out of lack of experience or understanding. I am okay with that.
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Reply #23 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 5:41pm

I do not believe it is possible to fully love someone, not even God, if one feels as if one better do so or else.

When someone has something absolutely wonderful to offer, such as God's love, there is no need of bringing fear into the equation in order for another to accept what someone has to offer.

When a Soul reaches the point where it is able to clearly see what is available, it will be too joyous to be thinking in terms of fear.

When I experience divine love and peace, and the very sensible wisdom it includes, it doesn't seem as if fear has a place.

Or in other words, when one clearly understands what God has to offer, fear doesn't play a role in accepting what is offered.

What God has to offer is so wonderful, he doesn't need to contrast it to something such as hell in order to get people to choose it.

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Reply #24 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:14pm

seagullresting wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:54pm:

Yes, a person might run into trouble. In any case, people do run into trouble, in general. I have been in big trouble lots of times. Most of the time, it would be through my own choices made out of lack of experience or understanding. I am okay with that.

Indeed. This is why the promise of Christ is so incredible. It's a promise of eternal liberation from this trouble, and from our own troublesome nature. I'm not so sure you'd be okay with the alternative that He gives us.

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seagullresting Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 137 USA	Re: The great divide Reply #25 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:32pm That's really okay too. There are lots of times in this life when I didn't like the alternative. It turned out to be an interesting road anyway. No real regrets. If I'm too late for the party then I'll just go hang out where I can be happy and not bother anyone. Surely he won't have a problem with that.
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Lights of Love Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 881	Re: The great divide Reply #26 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:32pm Quote: I've thought about a starting a thread with atheist/non-Christian questions directed at any Christians who would like to answer. Uno, I think it would be great for you to start a thread in the Religions discussion forum. You ask good questions.
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Reply #27 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm

seagullresting wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:32pm:

That's really okay too. There are lots of times in this life when I didn't like the alternative. It turned out to be an interesting road anyway. No real regrets. If I'm too late for the party then I'll just go hang out where I can be happy and not bother anyone. Surely he won't have a problem with that.

God loves you enough to not force you to be with Him. However, considering that all love comes from God, choosing complete separation from Him probably wouldn't be the wisest choice if happiness is what you seek. I don't believe there can be any real happiness without love.

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seagullresting Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 137 USA	Re: The great divide Reply #28 - Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm I believe that is a beautiful sentiment. I was about to launch into an explanation that a woman can always seek out the Buddha for sanctuary. The Buddha is always her refuge. However, I am open to other beliefs and great noble causes.
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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #29 - Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:16am Yes Dude, I am Christian. I asked those questions to better understand you. Did you become Christian recently? I would like to know how it occurred.
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I Am Dude Super Member Offline Posts: 1462 Gender:	Re: The great divide Reply #30 - Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 12:19pm Yes, I became Christian earlier this year. I believe I was led by God to discover that my previous notions regarding Him, His son and his word were false and as I learned the truth, I underwent an spiritual experience of transformation which solidified my conviction that Christ is the truth and the way.
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Reply #31 - Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 7:09pm

Lights of Love wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:32pm:

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I've thought about a starting a thread with atheist/non-Christian questions directed at any Christians who would like to answer.

Uno, I think it would be great for you to start a thread in the Religions discussion forum. You ask good questions.

Uno, I agree with Kathy. That would be of interest to quite a few of us.

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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #32 - Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 11:22pm Lights & Rondele, got some ideas just now in the early morning light and sure more will come later. Will do.
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Reply #33 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 12:08pm

Glad to hear. Like Dude I also want to develop a relationship with Jesus although he is further along. I tend to get interested and then get involved with other things and lose interest. Fyi I recently bought The True Jesus by David Limbaugh.

For me reading something from a person who originally was not religious and who discovered Jesus on his own carries more weight than from a life long adherent.

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Reply #34 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 12:30pm

Thanks for the tip R.

100 bible verses about love
https://www.openbible.info/topics/love

Is evil rational?
https://youtu.be/ryA8PafooQ4

Graduates spreading joy
https://youtu.be/1z0pQa1TYtQ

Norwegian Black Metal
https://youtu.be/KKIoJOwxDwI

Safe joy
https://youtu.be/Ao-WxL6O7Ro

Doing what you never thought about doing
https://youtu.be/28rJqj-7pEY

Medicine
https://youtu.be/V43x4zt6Oc4

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1796 Senior Member Offline Posts: 440	Re: The great divide Reply #35 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 11:49pm Some interesting links there, Uno.
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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #36 - Jun 24^th, 2017 at 3:12pm Lightly stepped a yellow star To its lofty place – Loosed the Moon her silver hat From her lustral Face – All of Evening softly lit As an Astral Hall – Father, I observed to Heaven, You are punctual. - Emily Dickinson
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Reply #38 - Jun 25^th, 2017 at 4:05am

1796, Tate seems to favour people with a sense of humour, how inconsiderate of her.

Greek comedy, tragedy and abrupt endings
https://youtu.be/HlvfvygyjgE

Philosophy - Socrates
https://youtu.be/9J_wl_uCgww

Philosophy - Epicurus
https://youtu.be/TrCSmMJvoig

Philosophy - Montaigne
https://youtu.be/gXo70px_tNo

Philosophy - Seneca
https://youtu.be/UA7cgIg4Lfs

Philosophy - Nietzsche
https://youtu.be/lWUYOol1YV8

Philosophy - Schopenhauer
https://youtu.be/UtW3cLWAC3I

Famous last words
https://youtu.be/b9Ud53Wb-3k

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Uno Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 115	Re: The great divide Reply #39 - Jun 25^th, 2017 at 10:25am 100 bible verses about light https://www.openbible.info/topics/light Jeff Allen - dark humour https://youtu.be/zFQAV4QA7yk Mayor's race - Light humor https://youtu.be/TznCn-MDkis?t=1m1s The earth seen from above https://youtu.be/FG0fTKAqZ5g Golden sunrise https://youtu.be/A2_yg19Pu7Y
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