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Title: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 10th, 2017 at 1:42pm
If you have a left view, right view, opposing view, similar view, your view: you're are also welcome to post in the thread.
Tucker Carlsson on Kathy Griffin & victimhood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr8Ei-QUkOg Tucker Carlsson on Black Lives Matter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khCtSPO6KCE Tucker Carlsson on Muslim safe spaces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srE01NbdY3A |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 10th, 2017 at 2:16pm
The Rubin Report - The left is no longer liberal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq86Beh3T70 The Rubin Report - Don't let free speech be held hostage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDEgCEZDkTI The Rubin Report - Female Genital Mutilation and “Islamophobia” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehgOCJzwZw |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 15th, 2017 at 2:49pm
Why you love capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQS1m8pT1Wk Laura Loomer asks anti-Trump witch to cast spell against ISIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yVYnfR10KM |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Morrighan on Jun 15th, 2017 at 5:34pm |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:34pm |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 18th, 2017 at 12:45am
The left-right political spectrum explained
https://youtu.be/Vs1qOBy8GzY The difference between your right and left brain https://youtu.be/vIAqErC-m_Q Males and females explained https://youtu.be/nRvb0VGS3RM |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:53am
What is dualism? (1 comment)
https://youtu.be/VZY9F2EPtnU What is duality? https://youtu.be/7I_Q9bOc7o0 Hunting high and low (Norwegian pop anno 1985) https://youtu.be/s6VaeFCxta8 Christian scientists on science and faith https://youtu.be/W8XmXSMxXHQ The atheist experience https://youtu.be/0Lkhfjxk4vE Is the Christian faith reasonable? https://youtu.be/QCkZOzJkeTo |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:24pm
The cover of female innocence and victimhood might soon be blown.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/why-arent-we-talking-about-abusive-mums/news-story/629b48b93abd22be2b63f1344c0c5de6 |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:45pm |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 19th, 2017 at 11:05am
Where does hatred come from?
https://youtu.be/b71NgkRdN1k A simple act https://youtu.be/a7nFz44bIGg Everything is amazing and nobody is happy https://youtu.be/q8LaT5Iiwo4 Joy https://youtu.be/rp03AorAWLY Simple living https://youtu.be/3ODu2RZIuXk |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 20th, 2017 at 4:29am
Yes, we live in a golden age with a greater proportion of the world's people having all their needs met than ever before, and in the west even the poor live better than the nobility of the past. This is the time of the discontented.
*** Karen Berg is pretty right in essence. But plenty of people have the ability to give but instead they keep and continue to hate. Jealousy precedes nearly all hatred. I realise that does not make immediate sense because some people seem to have it all and still hate. But jealousy comes in many kinds. Irrespective of who is wealthier or poorer, there exists by their natures the contented and the discontented, and the discontented are jealous of the contented and hate them. Contented people, be them rich or poor, don't hate. Living standard has little to do with whether one is contented or discontented. It is a heart thing. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 20th, 2017 at 8:45am
Those two on the Atheist Experience don't seem very bright. They would fail basic logic.
My three best male friends are Christian atheists. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 20th, 2017 at 2:42pm
Thanks for the comments and food for thought 1796.
"My three best male friends are Christian atheists." Believes in God but doesn't act like he exists, had not thought about the term Christian atheist before. I've grown a faith in God gradually, and have started to realize that creation is awesome, in the true sense of the word. I used to consider Jesus as an astral creation due to people giving energy to an image of what they believe in, but have become open to at least the possibility that there is more to it, quite opposite of the past. I simply cannot deny the teaching you have presented about love and forgiveness, it makes too much sense and there is so much heart to it. I'm contented to be around Christians now and I'm glad there are unconventional Christians too. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 20th, 2017 at 2:43pm
Israelis: How much do you hate Palestinians?
https://youtu.be/r5168ysQ2rU Born to Hate Jews https://youtu.be/xCQEmeGfFmY Is It OK to Hate Someone? https://youtu.be/OZVvPZCVbM4 The Thinkquisition is Here https://youtu.be/UkNqrl5GEc0 Do We Have Free Will? https://youtu.be/bDkLUBdvOkw God and Suffering https://youtu.be/cNtz5wgnopQ Forgiveness https://youtu.be/6xsVM_gd0Tc Just say no https://youtu.be/hCRDskZrUMU |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 20th, 2017 at 9:37pm Uno wrote on Jun 20th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
I used to have very similar thoughts regarding Jesus. This was before I did honest research into the matter and learned that there is more evidence for his existence than for most other historical figures of that time. In fact, questioning Jesus' historical existence is laughed at even by most secular historians. Further research and contemplation made it clear that the biblical accounts of Jesus' life and deity were likewise true. My personal doubts mainly stemmed from a strong anti-Christian bias and trust in deceptive sources spreading disinformation. Since surrendering myself to God and putting my faith in Christ, I've seen more tangible spiritual growth and had more profound spiritual experiences in a matter of months than I experienced in over a decade of meditation, out of body travel, occult/metaphysical studies and other "spiritual" practices. I say this not to brag or even talk about myself, but to witness to you that He is the truth and the way so that you may one day be with Him too. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 21st, 2017 at 4:15am Uno wrote on Jun 20th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
Actually, I mean those friends are atheists who consider themselves Christians because they believe in the moral teachings of the new testament. *** The Virgin Mary is largely a thought form like that, but she has become a living force with a life of her own. Her occult history is fascinating. I might write about it one day. *** Regarding my teachings. Mostly I just define terms, then let the definitions teach by themselves. Nearly all of teaching any subject well is definitions, because everything there is to know about something is contained within its definition. Liars and those who shy from truth dislike definitions, and avoid defining their terms. They prefer flexible language so they can be vague and slippery. If we speak the truth and define our terms as we go, then the opposition gets annoyed indeed. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 21st, 2017 at 9:15am 1796 wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 4:15am:
Have you informed them what it means to be a Christian? An atheist who follows the moral principles of Christ is still just an atheist and is no more saved than any other atheist. Faith in Christ is not optional! |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 21st, 2017 at 9:37am I Am Dude wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 9:15am:
Let me play the devil's advocate. Tell me: What does it mean to be Christian? Saved? Saved from what? |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 21st, 2017 at 10:05am
I believe that being a Christian means that you truly desire to live like Christ because you have compete faith in his deity and sacrifice for your sins. When we put our trust in Christ as our God and savior we are saved from God's just punishment for a life of debauchery and sin by the endowment of His grace, being made righteous not of our own acts but by the love and glory of God. These are perhaps the most fundamental of Christian concepts. I thought you were a Christian?
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 21st, 2017 at 10:34am
Dude,
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I'm glad to be a witness of your good news and I wish you well as you continue to grow. Slow but determined, that's me in a nutshell, and I trust that I'll be able to discern the good and proper way forward. Quote:
Devils advocate - arguing a position you do support genuinely, even if just a little bit. It's not necessarily arguing 'for' or 'against' - it could be either, or none. 1796 is first and foremost an Aussie, and/or a lover of bacon. Kidding of course, but on a more serious note I've thought about a starting a thread with atheist/non-Christian questions directed at any Christians who would like to answer. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by seagullresting on Jun 21st, 2017 at 2:59pm
I have not viewed everything on this thread. Just a few. Seems like an interesting assortment.
Just a quick aside to Dude. Dude, if you were born in some part of this world in which you would not have been exposed to Christianity, or any religion, how would you progress? My thought: most likely, by trial and error, and by moments of inspiration, wherever they might be. Life has a number of peak moments. If this is one for you, then I can respect that. It doesn't mean I will choose your way, and that's okay too. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 21st, 2017 at 3:40pm
If one fails to consider the possible ramifications of ignoring God's word and rejecting Christ's sacrifice for our sins, then I can see why one would think such a path is acceptable. However, if the Bible is true, then this person will eventually run into trouble.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by seagullresting on Jun 21st, 2017 at 3:54pm
Yes, a person might run into trouble. In any case, people do run into trouble, in general. I have been in big trouble lots of times. Most of the time, it would be through my own choices made out of lack of experience or understanding. I am okay with that.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Recoverer 2 on Jun 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm
I do not believe it is possible to fully love someone, not even God, if one feels as if one better do so or else.
When someone has something absolutely wonderful to offer, such as God's love, there is no need of bringing fear into the equation in order for another to accept what someone has to offer. When a Soul reaches the point where it is able to clearly see what is available, it will be too joyous to be thinking in terms of fear. When I experience divine love and peace, and the very sensible wisdom it includes, it doesn't seem as if fear has a place. Or in other words, when one clearly understands what God has to offer, fear doesn't play a role in accepting what is offered. What God has to offer is so wonderful, he doesn't need to contrast it to something such as hell in order to get people to choose it. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:14pm seagullresting wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Indeed. This is why the promise of Christ is so incredible. It's a promise of eternal liberation from this trouble, and from our own troublesome nature. I'm not so sure you'd be okay with the alternative that He gives us. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by seagullresting on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:32pm
That's really okay too. There are lots of times in this life when I didn't like the alternative. It turned out to be an interesting road anyway. No real regrets. If I'm too late for the party then I'll just go hang out where I can be happy and not bother anyone. Surely he won't have a problem with that.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Lights of Love on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:32pm Quote:
Uno, I think it would be great for you to start a thread in the Religions discussion forum. You ask good questions. :) |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:46pm seagullresting wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:32pm:
God loves you enough to not force you to be with Him. However, considering that all love comes from God, choosing complete separation from Him probably wouldn't be the wisest choice if happiness is what you seek. I don't believe there can be any real happiness without love. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by seagullresting on Jun 21st, 2017 at 9:22pm
I believe that is a beautiful sentiment. I was about to launch into an explanation that a woman can always seek out the Buddha for sanctuary. The Buddha is always her refuge. However, I am open to other beliefs and great noble causes.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 6:16am
Yes Dude, I am Christian. I asked those questions to better understand you.
Did you become Christian recently? I would like to know how it occurred. |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by I Am Dude on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 12:19pm
Yes, I became Christian earlier this year. I believe I was led by God to discover that my previous notions regarding Him, His son and his word were false and as I learned the truth, I underwent an spiritual experience of transformation which solidified my conviction that Christ is the truth and the way.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by rondele on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 7:09pm Lights of Love wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 6:32pm:
Uno, I agree with Kathy. That would be of interest to quite a few of us. R |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 11:22pm
Lights & Rondele, got some ideas just now in the early morning light and sure more will come later. Will do.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by rondele on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 12:08pm
Glad to hear. Like Dude I also want to develop a relationship with Jesus although he is further along. I tend to get interested and then get involved with other things and lose interest. Fyi I recently bought The True Jesus by David Limbaugh.
For me reading something from a person who originally was not religious and who discovered Jesus on his own carries more weight than from a life long adherent. R |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 12:30pm
Thanks for the tip R.
100 bible verses about love https://www.openbible.info/topics/love Is evil rational? https://youtu.be/ryA8PafooQ4 Graduates spreading joy https://youtu.be/1z0pQa1TYtQ Norwegian Black Metal https://youtu.be/KKIoJOwxDwI Safe joy https://youtu.be/Ao-WxL6O7Ro Doing what you never thought about doing https://youtu.be/28rJqj-7pEY Medicine https://youtu.be/V43x4zt6Oc4 |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 11:49pm
Some interesting links there, Uno.
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 24th, 2017 at 3:12pm Lightly stepped a yellow star To its lofty place – Loosed the Moon her silver hat From her lustral Face – All of Evening softly lit As an Astral Hall – Father, I observed to Heaven, You are punctual. - Emily Dickinson |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by 1796 on Jun 24th, 2017 at 10:02pm |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 25th, 2017 at 4:05am
1796, Tate seems to favour people with a sense of humour, how inconsiderate of her.
Greek comedy, tragedy and abrupt endings https://youtu.be/HlvfvygyjgE Philosophy - Socrates https://youtu.be/9J_wl_uCgww Philosophy - Epicurus https://youtu.be/TrCSmMJvoig Philosophy - Montaigne https://youtu.be/gXo70px_tNo Philosophy - Seneca https://youtu.be/UA7cgIg4Lfs Philosophy - Nietzsche https://youtu.be/lWUYOol1YV8 Philosophy - Schopenhauer https://youtu.be/UtW3cLWAC3I Famous last words https://youtu.be/b9Ud53Wb-3k |
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Title: Re: The great divide Post by Uno on Jun 25th, 2017 at 10:25am
100 bible verses about light
https://www.openbible.info/topics/light Jeff Allen - dark humour https://youtu.be/zFQAV4QA7yk Mayor's race - Light humor https://youtu.be/TznCn-MDkis?t=1m1s The earth seen from above https://youtu.be/FG0fTKAqZ5g Golden sunrise https://youtu.be/A2_yg19Pu7Y |
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