I have not heard of that specific claim.  But what does concern me is the variety of evidence for doppelganger paranormal experiences as well as so-called guardian angels that take the form of specific humans to impart a message about them.  Robert Bruce's astral visits to spirit hospitals teach him that the nursing and medical staff are not the independent souls they appear to be, but rather archetypal figures or thought forms invented to create an earthlike hospital atmosphere.  For RB, this impression is enhanced by his frustrated attempts to carry on a meaningul dialogue with them. It is also well known that negative entities, whatever they are, often impersonate other humans, both living and deceased.  The net effect of all these counterfeiting phenomena, benign or malevolent, on me is to make me question whether family reunions during NDEs really connect the percipient with whom they seem to be in contact!

I might add that all the NDE hints of a postmortem career for us seem to contradict an efforts to preempt such careers with a reincarnation process.

  Can't speak specifically to the afterlife context about the White Light, but from my experiences with perceiving the White Light, it's always been in relation to positive experiences and very positive consciousnesses. 

  The kinds of consciousnesses I communicate with when I perceive the White Light, I strongly sense/know/perceive as being of pure Love. When in communion with them, I feel/experience complete peace, contentment, very strong sense of connectedness, and basically the very essence of that we call "positive" and "Love".  I've also gotten the perception that these are fully conscious of their Oneness with the Whole and with Source. In a dream experience I was given a glimpse of that kind of degree of consciousness expansion, and it was quite something else.

   I've also read a fair amount of NDE's, and White Light consistently corresponds to experiences with Godly, Light Beings/Helpers, when it applies to specific interactions with individuals/groups/levels.

  Due to the above combo, I doubt that the "White Light" as a trap theory is correct. 

   My sense is that Bruce was mostly correct when he wrote that one of the primary reasons why many reincarnate as humans, besides curiosity, experience, etc, is those feelings of debt we feel, when we've hurt others in our lives.  That we try to balance these. I related the verified psychic experience I had with another that dealt with a much earlier dream, then meeting with an individual I know my "Disk" had had a life with and karma to balance/work out. The decade earlier dream and the psychic verification with her, explained why I felt such strong feelings of sense of responsibility to her, like I had to be there for her no matter what.   

   This very much also goes along with the Cayce work, and that karma is a real Soul issue. NDE's also indirectly support this as well, as many talk about Life reviews, and a big part of Life reviews involves realizing what we need to work on to grow more fully to Love and Source consciousness, in a conscious sense. 

   This is not to say, this is what all human lives are about.  Some individuals have come here from other, different and more expanded systems of consciousness, solely for the purpose of service, exampling, and/or retrieval.  If these keep their vibratory patterns fast, they will bypass the human connected afterlife/Solar consciousness system and return to the systems they came from or expand into a more expanded system that they came here from.  (Some going to the core of Source).

    Why not ask to connect with only the most expanded, loving, helpful, constructive etc consciousnesses, and ask them about this issue/question?  I believe this level and these individuals can help us more than any in physical humans (unless we're talking a He/She type) or even regular nonphysically focused guides.  Certainly they can help us with the most accurate and helpful info and perspectives beyond these. 

  I don't really plan to post here, but felt nudged to speak on this issue.

I believe the white light is beautiful and not to be feared. During a medical procedure many years ago I rested in it while something of a "red" nature was happening off to my front left as I perceived it. When I awoke from the procedure I had such a broad smile on my face that the doctor could not help but ask what I had experienced. I could not even describe it.

However, during meditation a person can experience such moments and they are places which one could not help but want to return.

     I've read a good many abduction experiences. Abductions seem to occur most often with "Grey" ET's, and to a lesser extent Reptilian ET's.   

   There is an interesting pattern that can be observed with Grey ET abductions and experiencers of same when the people go deeper into the experiences and memories (see for example, Dr. John E. Mack's work).

   On a human, physical level, the people involved are often terrified and often need to be subdued in some way by the Grey ET's.  Yet a number of these people whom go deeper and start to get over their human fear, they realize some core fundamentals; they love the Greys and the Greys "love"  (albeit in a more detached, much less emotional way) them, on a soul level they volunteered for the experiences, and that they came from that group themselves (aka, they were previously "Greys" themselves). 

   If the above is true for these Grey abductions, then one can understand why the Greys would use various methods to calm the human animal level of a person. In many of these abductions, when humans communicate with the Greys and vice versa, often times the Greys don't fully understand what all the fuss is about, as they don't experience the kind of fear and the forgetfulness that their human brethren do. 

    As regards Reptilian abductions, well these seem to be different. To be honest, from what I've so far have read, these tend to be less abductions in the classic sense and more contacts most of the time.  Sometimes it seems that the Reptilians are purposely trying to induce fear, rather than calm the humans involved like the Greys.  It seems that Reptilians in sense, feed off fear. (As an aside, I think the Greys and Reptilians are in a war, though not a war that the Greys wanted or desired)

      So when we talk about abductions, I think it's important to specify which group and what larger context.  Especially if we're going to compare other phenomena, draw inference or extrapolate into other areas. 

    What I've received from guidance--mostly, but not only, in the form of intuition re: the Greys, supports the growing view by those experiencers that have gone deeper into their experiences and in a spiritual way--that the Greys are essentially more spiritual and positive than not, though also very different from humans.

In some ways, Greys and humans are almost like polar opposites--especially when it comes to emotions and the experience of individuality. 

   My very strong sense is that their genetic and communication programs and contacts with humans serves two purposes--to help get them out of the hole that they have dug for themselves when they drastically altered their genetics a long time ago (as well as listened to influences not good for them), as well as try to provide help to humans--primarily in the form of expanding our awareness of the larger reality and community out there. 

  They are using human dna to recapture some of what they lost a long time ago--emotions, individuality, and a connection to their "lower" centers.  They want to be of the consciousness that the White Light represents, but they're missing the slower vibratory part of the spectrum, the red, orange, etc.  You can only become the White Light, when all the major frequencies are blended together in a balanced, synthesized manner.

    They thought if they cut out the slow vibratory ones that were giving them so much trouble earlier, that they could short cut their way to the White Light state.  At some point, they realized their mistake, and now they are blending their genetics with human genetics to recover that.

   Also communication and communion with humans is helping them with the energetic aspect of it. This is taking place on many levels, not just abductions.

  My spouse and I had an interesting experience awhile back involving Grey ET's, or rather a Grey ET.  I was out backpacking for the weekend in a wilderness area.  At nighttime, I meditated, and asked guidance to communicate with a positive ET.  I suddenly, out of the blue, got the image of a Grey type face. 

  The interesting thing is that same night (unbeknownst to myself until later), my spouse was at our home, and had a very vivid lucid dream, where she was in our bed, and a Grey ET popped out of nowhere into her perception and seemed to be checking her out. It didn't seem to have much in the way of a sense of boundaries/personal space as one point, it got very close, face to face, and she yelled at it. It was a bit frightening for her, not because of anything sinister that the Grey did or emanated, but by the surprise, suddenness, and closeness of it all. 

    So this Grey ET apparently picked up on our strong energetic connection and decided to visit both of us.

    While I'm not in the camp that views Greys as negative and completely self serving beings, at the same time, neither am I in the camp that puts them on a pedestal as some do.  They are not completed beings, not "gods", they have lessons to learn, and they can and do make mistakes or err. Generally speaking though, they are more evolved than the human group, in the sense that they exist on a faster vibratory/more expanded level of consciousness and are collectively closer to that White Light state of consciousness. (with that said, there are individual humans that are more expanded than their whole group is). 

   There is a kind of arrogance of the Greys towards humans, as they do kind of look down on us (even while realizing that they can learn/benefit from connection with us).  They are a lot more intellectually and technologically advanced, much more energetically/psychically aware and conscious, and war between themselves ended a long, long time ago.  So they tend to view humans, as a group, as barbaric and primitive. A good analogy is if the "Vulcans" from Star Trek, visited a group where the group fought and warred a lot, were destroying their planet, were generally a lot more primitive seeming, etc.

  But spiritually speaking, they are not that far beyond us at all.  And while the Reptilians are more technologically advanced than us, spiritually, they are more stuck and stunted than even we are. Or at least one faction of their larger group/species.

  (perhaps related to the reptilian issue, I just watched an NDE account where a boy was given a glimpse of probable future timeline and saw that later on, an evil alien group would attack us, and it would be very difficult and challenging for humanity.  This seems to echo what Rosalind McKnight received, and the spaced apart, different but connected dreams that my spouse had about a future human life of her's where she observed humanity being warred on/attacked by an ET group further in the future).

   

   

OOB Dude, I've heard of it.  Anymore, I've heard of everything. 

In my own NDE the beautiful white bright light that I saw was undeniably the most loving "magnetic" thing I've ever seen.  I couldn't help but want to go toward it.  The "being" on the other end of that light is the same as what I've known throughout my life as my Guidance.  You could call it a spirit guide or whatever, it doesn't matter.  But it's the same being that has been here for me and helped me throughout my life.  I don't feel I was being deceived that the light was part of my experience and bringing me Home.  It was more like it was just a natural aspect of the process.

It was when I said that I decided to stay and that I wasn't going back that the being told me "Go back to the physical".  I refused again, and he told me again "Go back to the physical" and then I was propelled back with a force I couldn't fight against. 

I was pretty mad about that. 

  Perhaps I should mention that pre this life, I was not in this energy/consciousness system that most Souls that have incarnated as humans are connected to. I was an "ET" so called (neither Grey nor Reptilian--I wasn't body based like these and humans are). I've been given clues all my life about this, starting with a repeating childhood dream where I was on a spaceship traveling from somewhere seemingly far away to Earth and for a definite reason.    

    I came here at this time partly to communicate with and raise awareness about ET's, both the positive and negative ones. One of the things I worked on pre this in physical human life, was learning all about the negative group, what their motives, intentions, etc were, their habits, abilities, their history, etc. (though I don't remember all of this consicously--it comes in bits, over time).

   I've noticed a strong tendency for people to go to extremes with the whole ET thing.  They either focus too much on positive ETs or the positive aspect of ET's for lack of focus on the negative, or they focus too much on the negative ET's or seemingly negative aspects of same for lack of focus on the positive. 

   The larger truth, like with many things in life and reality, is a more complex, relative admixture.  And like with anything in life, it's important to try to maintain balance.

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  Yes, re: the latter part, that's something I'm not sure about either.  I've come across seemingly credible sources which indicate that there are positive Reptilians also, for example. I suppose it's possible--look at humans--we have quite a range. But it seems a lot of ET groups are a lot more collective in nature than humans, which would tend to preclude some of that.

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  My sense is that there is a mix of both.  And some of the ones with physical bodies, have bodies that are a bit faster vibratory than ours, more akin to our etheric level.  Yet, they do essentially exist within what we call "physical reality", and evolved on a physical type planet.  Earth and humans themselves have gone through different cycles wherein our density has increased and decreased.  During the periods where it decreases, and we raise/speed up the vibratory rates of the physical, what we experience as physical reality becomes more fluid and less set/structured.   

  There are those that are completely "mental" level based. Some of these may have started off in the denser physical reality, but evolved out of same.  Some exist within the spiritual, aka they are now within the core of Source and are Co-Creators, but can manifest wherever they like. 

   Pre this life, I spent time primarily in the mental level(s), and explored and communicated with many different systems and groups, both in the mental level and those with both a physical/etheric and mental component.

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  I suppose it's possible, and it's good to question things, but speaking for self, it doesn't ring true to my deeper intuition.  The way guidance works for me in communication, is primarily through intuition.  It's only if I'm really not getting something that I need to get, that I'll get more overt messages like images, "hearing" something, waking or sleeping dreams, etc.  Sometimes if I misperceive something, they'll create/deliver a more overt/obvious, in my face type message.

  Besides the intuitive aspect, there are some basic assumptions within the White Light as a trap concept that doesn't jibe with experiences, guidance, etc related to other concepts.

  First, that reincarnation is a negative thing itself--it's not--it's a process of growth and checks and balances.

That direct, literal reincarnation is common--it's not, many lives are more about new Disk mixes and projections--though occasionally direct, literal reincarnation does happen. Before I became an "ET", I was on earth many thousands of years ago, for example. 

   It assumes that there isn't a collective of positive ET's and spiritual powers/beings that look out for humans and monitor and check the negative ET's.  Like McKnight was told by guidance, I was told similar, that positive, Love based ET's keep an eye out for us and limit the kind and intensity of interaction the Reptilians are allowed to have with us.

    This ascribes more power and freedom to the Reptilians or a negative group, than what is likely in a largely benevolent Universe where guidance does care about and work towards the growth of consciousness. 

   The Reptilians are allowed to interact with humans, but in a limited manner.  Ultimately, they want our planet, and want us to either become like them, or be slaves/play things. However, they are not allowed to war against us in that direct, overt way.

There will come a time, when humans have grown up enough spiritually and technologically, that the positive collective of ETs will let go of our hands, and the Reptilians will be allowed to directly, physically attack us as they desire to.  But this is some 500 years or so in the probable future and not something you and I need to particularly be concerned with right now. 

   I'm not saying there isn't deception and that they don't cause problems here in Earth and with humans (they certainly do), but overall, it's more subtle.  It's mainly through distorting, limiting belief systems, urging us to negative and/or limiting behaviors/actions/thoughts, etc.

  It's when we are connected to the body physical (which is a slow vibratory, dense, fear filled animal being/level), that we can be most influenced by such a group. There is more "resonation" of the body with them. Once we fully disconnect from the body and physical level, and phase into our faster vibratory levels, we are much, much, much less susceptible to being influenced by these.  Hence, how likely are they to influence a large number of Souls who have dropped the body and who have not become stuck? 

    I've had issues with psychic interference from this group, but the solution was pretty simple and effective (once conscious of said interference)--consciously ask the most expanded/PUL attuned, creative-constructive, etc sources for help and protection.  Not so simple or easy, but very effective in combo with the above--to try to live my life as positively and helpfully as I can (which is a very holistic process and involves the physical, mental and spiritual levels).