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Justin
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Funny recent little incident
Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08am
 
    A couple of nights ago, while i was awake and my spouse asleep, she started to talk in her sleep. 

  She said in a rather puzzled (but very clear) manner, "Why is everyone wearing white?" 

    My sense is that while she was phasing (shifting consciousness state focus--"going out of the body" is really quite inaccurate as space as we perceive it doesn't exist) during her sleep state, she was brought/helped to a rather high level--perhaps a meeting of some sort, where all the beings were one with, or pretty close to be fully one with PUL. 

   I don't think she is accustomed to phasing there all that often (not her natural frequency), hence the puzzlement in her voice.  Kind of wish i knew what was being discussed while she was "there".  Seems like it might be important, otherwise she wouldn't have been helped/boosted there temporarily.
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Re: Funny recent little incident
Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:10am
 
  It's possible though that she was just having a symbolic dream, where everyone in the dream was wearing white.
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Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:19am
 
  My spouse's body is not my spouse. As far as going in and out of the body, in a sense you are correct.  It doesn't actually happen that way (but i'm not just talking about dreams--talking in general).

   What we perceive as space/linear time is not an objective reality.  It's a collective, temporary belief system that has been modified by the spiritual powers that be. 

  What really happens is this.  Consciousness has many levels, or states of awareness within it.  The physical is just one of many, and a very temporary one compared to many other states. 

    When an individualized consciousness is focusing part of themselves in the physical (aka, connected to a human body as we say), they can also focus part of their awareness in the other levels or states of consciousness. 

  None of this is "spatial", but because we who are connected to humans experience space and linear time, we like to translate and interpret these processes according to our very limited terms, perception, and understanding. 

  People that experience "classic out of body" type experiences and perceptions, are focusing part of their awareness in a level or state range that is closer, vibratory wise (not spatially), to that of the physical. 

That is why, from their perspective, it feels and seems so "real" and real here implies relativity and means-akin to physical. 

  Such folks are often materially minded to a certain degree.  Their exploration and understanding of the larger reality tends to be fairly limited until they can transcend their limiting beliefs and interpretations of how all this works and/or attune to PUL more and more clearly. 

   Eventually, if they grow and attune more spiritually, such a person will tend to find that their experiences and the interpretation of them, will start to change.  They will not feel as if they are "leaving" their body, and things will not be so vivid and viscerally real. 

  Their new perception and experiences will be more subtle and harder to grasp in a sense, because they are getting farther and farther away (vibrationally, not spatially) from the slow vibratory level that is the physical. There is less and less reference base and similarity to the physical.

  It takes practice, and consistent attunement, to start perceiving and translating more clearly the kind of data one picks up in these much more expanded levels/states. 

   So yes, in a sense, you are very much correct, going in and out of the body doesn't really happen, it's a form of belief system "nonsense".  It's a limited, distorted interpretation of what really happens.  This is because the physical itself is a very limited and distorted, temporary state of awareness within the Whole of Consciousness.

  The more one is attuned to the physical, the more one buys into the distortions of same and the more one is attached to it.  The more attuned one becomes to the more expanded levels, that are vibrationally closer to the Source ("God"), the more they start to transcend and become non attached to the physical as much as their body lets them. 

  It is part of the rule set here, that if you're connected to a human body, then you will have your perception limited to a degree.  This is until the physical itself changes and becomes well, less physical itself (some 12 generations or so away from now). 

  Or, like Yeshua, you can allow yourself to die, and rather than incarnating into a human baby again, create a body form out of thought/creative energy.  In that case, you can be in the world, but no longer of it.

I don't know if other people would be allowed to do that or not though.  Since Yeshua is part of the Spirit that Co-Created the nonphysical patterns that the physical eventually became patterned after in a distorted way--he is allowed a lot more freedom, especially when he became one with PUL again.

  One more note about the topic of out of body--much of the above was confirmed to me, when one of the only times that i had a classic out of body experience was when i was in an unusually slow vibratory phase or cycle in my life.  I was much less spirtually centered and more mired in the physical, including all that this entails.  My sex drive/attachment/focus was higher, i was acting and thinking more selfishly, etc, etc.  I had become more attuned to the body, rather than my consciousness/

  Interestingly, i had this experience around the time that i had been involved with a certain book and so called spiritual teaching that is supposedly sourced from Yeshua (it's not).  This super repetitive book, i realized later, had a negative/limiting effect on me and my focus and attunement for awhile.
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:39pm
 
  What are dreams? 

  Some dreams, particularly very nonsensical and nightmare type dreams often come from unusual and unbalanced reactions in the body-physical whether due to eating junk or hard to digest foods close to sleep time or taking certain pharmaceutical or illegal drugs.  These dreams don't have any deeper meaning or message (other than one should treat their Temple better). 

  Some dreams relate more to the emotional and subconscious levels of a person.  These are more about working out certain material issues or personality tendencies in life.

  Other dreams relate to the higher mental and spiritual levels of a person.  These often are "guidance" dreams or remembrance dreams of nonphysical experiences/perceptions as talked about below.

  Some dreams are guidance messages, either from outside helper types or loved ones, or one's own Expanded self or what Bruce calls the Disk level.

  Other dreams are distorted, symbolically interpreted remembrances from our phasing in the nonphysical.  In older terms, some might call these out of body explorations, but as talked about in the above--this is a limited, erroneous interpretation.   

  So doesn't really say or mean much to just call it a dream. Dreams are often important and have deeper meaning, except the first category talked about. The Bible is filled with the importance of dreams and them being spiritual messages. Many of the key figures in the Bible, got inspiration and psychic knowings from their dreams or they interpreted the dreams of others. 

 
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Re: Funny recent little incident
Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:03am
 
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  It's possible though that she was just having a symbolic dream, where everyone in the dream was wearing white.


Justin. Do you realize what you are writing?...It's all your  Sub-Conscious Imaginative-mind BS!

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Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:35am
 
I disagree. I've analyzed thousands of my dreams and found that symbolic messages can be received through them.

Through dreams I've received information I didn't know about before hand.

Some dream activity could just be the random meanderings of our subconscious mind.

If a person doesn't try to receive information through his dreams, he or she is less likely to receive it in such a way.

And then there are lucid dreams where you interact with the being who provides the message.


Gman wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:03am:
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  It's possible though that she was just having a symbolic dream, where everyone in the dream was wearing white.


Justin. Do you realize what you are writing?...It's all your  Sub-Conscious Imaginative-mind BS!


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