Lucy, you like to speak in riddles rather than plain talk. I can't say that I'm interested in deciphering riddles.

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recoverer wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 4:55pm:

Displaying dislike in line with divine will, the correct term for the female version of Lucifer is Lucyfer.

In your post #44 in this thread, do you detect any Luciferian influences? An answer may not be immediate, but can be a question worth pondering.

Thanks for your time seagull. Though the name game was more interesting than anticipated it's over, and here's a tune for you.

http://tinyurl.com/pvtrbzs

If someone requests repair work and removing mud from the chakras doesn't work, you can do a start-the-motor-of-the-boat maneuver on the base chakra and watch the rest light up light a Christmas tree. Or maybe not. Creative intention, for doing good, making sure it's, well, headed in the right direction.

What is the effect of bringing your spirit energy to life with Christ Consciousness in mind?

It seems on this thread more than others, so many fascinating subjects have been barely touched and skipped over. So what to respond to? Can they all be responded to within a few points? Probably not, but maybe.

We live in a fractal existence, where all things replicate and are replications in form, quality and function of things above, below, within and without of themselves, to the extent that dimensions and the nature of the matter in dimensions enables. That is what enables symbols and symbolism to work.

All shapes, numbers, elements, forces, things, happenings, in worlds of nature and man, the human body, organs, layers of our nature, Sun, Earth, moon, stars, orbits, ... are all continuations, replications, imprints and reflections of similar things to themselves, connected above and below themselves, and interconnected and communicating. (I know that it is possible for a person to see all this as a result of faith, thankfulness and prayer, and afterwards by lesser but more continuous glimpses.)      

The Jews are symbolic of an aspect of humanity and its growth. What happens to/of them has/does/will happen to all.

Its all about fire - the element of. From the first campfire used by the first primitive man, through ceramics manufacture, metal smelting, to the use of electrical machinery like computers, phones, and combustion engines in cars, jet fighters, to guns and bombs, nuclear weapons and medicine, material manufacture, ....etc..the history of man's development is the history of his learning to manage, understand and wield fire, externally and internally, in all its forms - combustive, electrical, radiant, friction, nuclear, biological, spiritual, in body, mind, conscience, heart ...

Even the concerns of western current affairs such as body weight, calorie consumption, environmentalism, energy sustainability, world conflicts, managing the heat and coolness of emotions, developing the light of reason, ... are all part of our ever growing understanding and improved wielding of fire.   

Convection, what we might define as the movement of energy and things in relation to heat, drives the universe and all things in it. Temperature, movement, matter, energy, light, calories...are just different aspects of the energy that drives the universe - fire.

All material life on Earth is sustained and driven by material fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYsCZVNQf6I 

That thermodynamics drive existence is well known of course, as Peter Atkins points out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H2sq89ZqEM

But the extent of the nature of fire within life, religion, the soul and spirituality is not so well known, not by scientists anyway.

But the extent of the nature of fire is more understood in religion, particularly in Judeo-Christian religion which stands back to back and level with western science. Science and religion are two sides of a coin (https://lacecurtain.wordpress.com/2014/01/08/science-religion) as are esoteric occultism and mysticism; and what occultism/esotericism is to science, mysticism is to religion, so each and all roll on to truth together.

The old testament reveals a God that is all knowing, all encompassing, all pervading, ever extensive, and from which all comes, exists and returns, and which creates, rules, guides, communicates and retributes by fire.

Most atheist professors of thermodynamics overlooked that, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okbz8ARsm7g

Following the teachings on fire in the old testament, in the new testament Christ reveals how to rightly wield fire in the heart, as love, which is the light and warmth of God, and how to think and act in accordance with love and express it as goodwill, charity and helpfulness. 

Fire is the radiation of God. And is the guard of God, for no one comes to God except through fire - that is by attunement with and right use of fire.

The crown centre is the positive pole of the soul, and the base centre is the negative pole. The crown centre is the centre through which the soul can know God or spirit; through the base centre the soul knows matter. Love, the fire, or light and warmth of God, can be drawn in through the crown and expressed through the heart. It lights the crown and warms the heart. The breath can help facilitate this. As the radiance of heart becomes the common practice and condition, so the fires of matter are automatically drawn up to it and naturally unite with it. The kundalini fires are automated in response to the heart centre, no conscious manipulation of them is required. In fact to attempt to raise or meddle with them prematurely, outside of their normal automated process is likely to cause an uncontrolled fire and destroy the mental-emotional vehicle, just as would spilling petrol from the fuel lines onto the running engine or electrics of a motorcar. As the electric, water, fuel and exhaust systems of a motorcar each have their respective channels, chambers and conduits, so too, the soul and its surrounding layers contain different circulating energies which each have their rightful pathways, centres and conduits, and if these energies get into the wrong places then destruction of the vehicle is likely to result. Most psychiatric units contain at least one person who tried to raise his kundalini, and burnt his subtle bodies and turned himself into an insane jibbering idiot, not just for this life, but for many more lives to come. Focus on the heart, on love, goodwill and helpfulness, let the automated kundalini look after itself.                     

The difference between humans and monkeys is that being a monkey is merely about swinging from trees, but being a human is about learning how to rightly manage fire. And with that task comes great risk and responsibility, but great reward too. We have freewill, the means to learn and grow from sparks to gods. Tread carefully and cautiously. Even angels fear to tread our path.      
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maRanuCqY64

I must cease these long posts. The typing fingers seem to have a fire of their own.

1796 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 1:22am:

Hehe, touché and well done. May the fingers not cease fire. Revelation 3:15-16 New King James Version.

Ambivalent's footnote: "I only wish that ordinary people had an unlimited capacity for doing harm; then they might have an unlimited power for doing good."

That is true. Harmlessness is the ability of harm withheld, or not done. One can only be harmless if one has the ability to harm. Harmlessness is choice, defencelessness has no choice, it is just a condition. That is why a trained fighter who does not harm others is a harmless person, whereas a defenceless person is not harmless, they are just defenceless. And harmlessness is not just a physical trait as with the trained fighter, but may also exists on all other levels of our being, in mind and thought, in words, emotion, and in all the ways that we can effect others. As harmlessness is a choice, and defencelessness has no choice, there is no virtue in being defenceless, no credit there. And neither is harmlessness a virtue in itself, but it clears and paves the way for virtues of the heart to flow forth, and for good to be done instead of harm, particularly when under threat. The degree of harmlessness that someone is capable of is measured by the degree of harm that they can do, for harmlessness is like negative numbers that only exist to the extent that positive numbers exist. Harmlessness is the ability to harm on any level, in any way, but withheld, and good is done instead. As harmlessness can defend, can harm if need be, so harmlessness has none or little fear. Harmlessness quells the emotions, and enables the heart to open and good to be done even while one is under threat. Defencelessness cannot do that. But a harmless person can turn the other cheek, can be struck in the face, be put under threat, and yet remain calm and continue to talk to their attacker kindly, but not from fear and weakness but from strength. Harmlessness is not emotional, it is ruled by choice, it has freewill, it can think clearly because it is not defenceless, so it can love, forgive and help, where the defenceless person turns white with fear, gets their mind and heart blocked and paralysed with emotion. See, goodness needs strength. Goodness counts for nothing if its weak. 

From harmlessness is enabled all the virtues of the heart to function even when one is under threat. From harmlessness is enabled leniency, which is the right use of force. Leniency is force combined with love. When force must be used, it should be used with love, so it is appropriate and minimal, just enough. Mercy is the cessation of force when force is no longer required. Chivalry is that kind of helpfulness that can only come from strength. These virtues are enabled by harmlessness. The defenceless can never know them.      

Jesus taught harmlessness. See how in front of the disciples he killed the fig tree by pointing at it and willing it to die, then used his touch not to hurt or kill others but to heal them, even when they would harm him. And he allowed his disciples to carry weapons, even advised them each to buy a sword but advised them not to use them, even under threat. Peter was such a skilled swordsman that he cut off the ear of one of several aggressors as a warning to them to stay back, and no doubt could have slaughtered several men in a few moments, but he sheathed his sword on his teacher's advice. Jesus also said he could call legions of angels to his defence but would not. All this and much more through the bible are teachings on harmlessness.    

No one who is weak or defenceless in a capacity can claim to be harmless in that capacity, for if they are given the ability to harm then they may do harm, for they have not yet been tested with that power. And if someone is harmful or harmless in any capacity, then they are likely to be so in any other capacity in which they have the power, for doing harm or being harmless are in the heart.

Being harmless is a decision that requires the ability to harm. It has options. It has freewill.   

Harmlessness is not pacifism. Anyone can claim to be a pacifist when they cannot fight or can do no harm anyway. Many claim to be pacifists and against violence and use of force but are spiteful in speech, or hurt others through manipulation, or incitement, or enable or allow others to be violent or hurtful on their behalf. 

And there are many who are good, but not strong. Their goodness is limited by their fear. See the many good but weak men who drive past the hitchhiker on the highway. They would help him if they were confident in their defence. And those who witness crime, unfairness and bullying but do nothing to assist those to whom it is happening. See those who care more for the approval of their peers than for the approval of their own conscience.     

Goodness counts for little if its weak, and strength becomes a curse if its not good. The world needs more men who are both good and strong.

Strength and Goodness.   Strength and Goodness.   Strength and Goodness.