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Re: Is this the first and original manifested Realty?
Reply #30 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:25am
 
Maybe the Mitchell Johnson reference does have some relevance; here you have a man who a year or so ago was a laughing stock, the merciless butt of the 'Barmy' Army's jokes and songs (England's travelling supporters), who could hardly land the ball on the pitch with his career in jeopardy to being the most fearsome fast bowler currently in world cricket today. Maybe he decided not to be a 'sheep man' any longer !
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Reply #31 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:30am
 
cb, I've got to hand it to you, the logic you wield is very solid, with descriptive and thoughtful hands-on examples. I'd give you a high five too, or shake hands, but nothing wrong with keeping our hands to ourselves and just giving you a appreciative nod - thanks, sure we're different but I truly do like to read about your perspectives. Hand over heart, hehe.

Dominant hand, flawed on their own. Basically. Feminine worry, what a crappity smacking waste of time. Masculine.. nope. Perfection. Even if one of the females in this relatively large crowd reading this, actually dared to speak up, forget about it. Fortunately you already look dashing in your burkas of silence. All of you, uniformly. Spoiling the beauty of a still mouth with words other than "Yes, sir!" would be nothing but a shame. Goading? No, I don't indulge in that nonsense. Have some cake, ladies, and at the very least have some limited motion in your mouths. Yum-yum.
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Reply #32 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:36pm
 
Perhaps a good time to remember what a favorite teacher said, "The meek will inherit the earth" -- and that, no doubt, will be after humanity is gone from it. Nevertheless, this woman is alive today and whether I speak or whether I remain silent, and where I do it -- my choice....and those who do not speak today may speak tomorrow. Wait and see.
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Reply #33 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 3:04pm
 
Seagull, your choice to have a voice indeed, and there's no need to be afraid to use it though silence can be golden.

Gender conversations is touchy at least partly imo because of identification - I am a male body, I am a female body, and being offended plays right into that. The honest females I talk to tell me they think many males are plain stupid. They also say they aren't afraid of most males but fellow females.

I'll wait and see. In the meantime, do you care to speak about what you think are some good general qualities of females? I'll gladly keep my yap golden on this one and listen if you choose to do so.
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Reply #34 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 2:46am
 
1796 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 9:13am:
By the way,
Regarding the character you mention Justin who Monroe suggested may be the most mature/developed human being living here. Well I wonder if you have noticed the last few verses of John (21:19-24), Jesus' statement to Peter regarding the disciple John remaining here on Earth. He was the quiet disciple, didn't talk much, would sit by the teacher and pay quiet attention, an independent and solitary type. He may have written several books of the new testament. The concepts described in John, 1 john, 2 John and Revelations, cover Christianity from an occult or behind-the-scenes point of view, and those books can certainly seem to be written by the same mind. The books reveal an extraordinary mind with extraordinary comprehension, covering the relationship between God, Christ and creation, the mechanics of the soul and its relationship to God, the nature of the personality and its relationship to soul, an occult (behind the scenes) view of society, social/human patterns and their eventualities, and so much more. He is a most unusual human. Interestingly there is no record of his death.


  I've debated whether or not to address the above.  I initially wanted to earlier but held off for some reason.

Yes, i do think John the Beloved was an unusual human being, and my sense has long been that he lived an unusually long time for a human.  I also think that out of all the people around Yeshua besides perhaps his own mother, John the beloved most understood and lived Yeshua's deeper messages. 

  But, my intuition tells me he is not He/She. 

   There are some interesting readings in the Cayce work dealing with this entity John.  John occasionally came through that channel, and i think once was listed as one of the individuals helping in a particular reading.  It was rare for Cayce's guidance to list names, or for beings to come directly through, but both occasionally did happen. 

  What's more interesting is that Cayce's guidance indicated that John the beloved would be reincarnate in America presumably between the 1958 to 1998 period that they oft mentioned as a major world testing period. 

  They said that John would play an important spiritual messenger role, and help to prepare the way for Christ Consciousness to arise in the Earth, and perhaps also for a future liberator that was mentioned in other readings.  The way they talked about it, it sounds like a literal reincarnation, John himself, and not a mixed Disk projection as seems to be more common.

   I cannot say for sure, but i think i may have even met this "John", as i was wondering about a particular individual i had met and for some reasons had thoughts about this in relation to them.  Oddly enough, around that same time (before i mentioned it), they told me out of the blue that their guidance had referred to them as John on a few occasions.  The timing was uncanny and way too coincidental. 

  One time i had a dream wherein i was at a party where Bruce Moen was also at.  Bruce looked intently at me, and said intently, "Go find John, he is more intune* than i."  (*intune, mature, developed, any such word). 

   So if this is true, then i especially don't think that He/She is John the beloved. 

  I do believe this individual has the potential to realize full Christ Consciousness within though. 
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Reply #35 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 5:05am
 
I don't know he/she, I never met him. 

I've met plenty of girly-boys though. But they haven't seemed to be spiritual types; usually just self centred, sulky types. 

   
But joking aside,
John is certainly an intriguing character, whoever/whatever he was/is.
He is my favourite New Testament writer. Actually I enjoy all the writers, OT and NT.
Lately I re-read Ecclesiastes and last night I started James as I haven't read that for about 20 years.   

I don't think there has been anything written on how to live that has not been covered by the Greek philosophers and the old and new testaments; everything else seems to be within their bounds, over them perhaps, adding detail, but nothing beyond them in scope. And if one understands that the details are self-found when we understand the foundation, then we don't need any other guidance. Even the eastern Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist teachings are within the scope of the OT and have all their basis laid out there.   
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