Perhaps you've been eating too much steak and bacon. 

1796 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

Now where was I with that post? Oh yes, I remember, I was falling off my chair laughing at Justin saying,
"I would also say that you are somewhat over masculinely-Yang polarized.  If i was part of your guidance, i might say a greater balance or attunement with the Feminine-Yin could be beneficial."

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Is that an opinion or a preference? 
The difference may be subtle but is definite and potent.
Of course it doesn't matter which it is, as much as it matters that you know which it is.

Or maybe its a misunderstanding? a misappropriation, a muddling, an assumption or mistaken conviction regarding virtues and qualities and their relationship to gender?

Now where was I? mumble mumble hmm oh yes

1. I don't have guidance in the sense the word gets used on “spiritual” forums. I don’t need it; I have conscience. And when conscience goes behind the clouds I have judgement, for better or worst, hopefully for better, and I live and learn with the consequences of that.   

2. Regarding the masculinity comment. I would say the contrary, that the problem with men today, particularly the white male, and more particularly the Australian and English white male, in a few generations has become a pathetic shadow of his former self; is over feminised; seems to have no balls; tries to make a virtue of his cowardice; he unhealthily feigns racial and cultural shame of himself; is scared to show pride in himself and the achievements of his forbears; lives in fear of offending those who bully him into narrow boundaries of how to speak, act and think; has lost his individual initiative; has become a sheep in sheep's clothing; as an individual he seldom comes to the aid of strangers when there is some slight risk to himself, .... I am generalising of course; there are exceptions, and I don’t know much about American males, but overall I am not impressed with the majority of my current fellow white males. When I stop to pick up a tramp or hitchhiker or assist a fellow broken down on the highway I usually find out that dozens sometimes hundreds of able bodied men had previously driven past the fellow and not one stopped to help. Men’s fear is stronger than their goodwill; fear wins nearly every time the two come together in contest. Anyway, I expect it won't last. After this period of men being lost and thinking they are better men by being more like women, then men will find themselves again; their strength, initiative and reason will return, and they will be better men, even better than they were before.

Thanks for the link to Rosalind's book, but I won't read it though because for a couple of decades now I don't read spiritual/astral travel/occult/mystic type books, except the old and new testaments and the dictionary, which I think have the ground covered.

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I do enjoy the mineral kingdom, copper and silver especially, and I must study gold some more. I drink a glass of colloidal silver if I have a saw throat or stomach upset and it usually seems to clear it up. And I too experienced a type of lightness and clarity the first time I drank a glass.   

I have a strong interest in psychometrics, having used them in work, and am not aware of any studies regarding gold and IQ. Perhaps I will locate the study and look at its details, if they reveal them. Many studies don't, or make them hard to access, and so are no more than assertions masquerading as science, and usually as social science.
The subject of IQ has been under attack for some time from sociological idealists trying their hardest to smudge and discredited it and muddy the waters. But as I like to say, the truth will be the last one standing.         

crossbow

ps. "...greater balance or attunement with the Feminine-Yin could be beneficial"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_VVVTmiWFo

At spirit level I'd say it is more accurate to say that we are both male and female. I don't mean this in a body based way.

At the spirit level, the male aspect is beyond being macho.

I used to have a girlfriend who told me about "the young guys." Both her and one of her friends noticed this. There are younger males that are more sensitive than older men tend to be.  These younger males are more alive to their feminine aspect of being. Is sensitivity a bad thing?

My feeling is that Justin isn't afraid to be aware of his feminine aspect of being.

We can limit ourselves in various ways.  In truth we aren't cavemen, we are much more.

If we don't consider the possibilities, how will we grow?

And do you believe the energy-consciousness within your right hand is the same as the energy-consciousness within your left hand?

Perhaps you believe that in the spirit there is no left or right side, with no left or right consciousness, and no left or right roles. No passive and active roles. No left hand consciousness to secure and stabilise, and no right hand consciousness to apply the detail.  

Perhaps you believe that, like gender, left and right handedness is also a social construct created by us.

Perhaps right handedness is a sign of being afraid to get in touch with your left handedness.

Perhaps lack of ambidextrousness is a sign of lacking spirituality. 

Do you think the overall spirit of life does not have left and right aspects to its energy-consciousness, and does not manifest throughout creation in left and right genders with left and right sides? 

Perhaps you believe that the ancient maxim, As above so below and as within so without, is true in every regard and every aspect of creation, except for gender consciousness. 


But if you dare, imagine this; imagine if male and female gender consciousness, masculinity and femininity, was real and streamed, permeated and manifested throughout all creation. And imagine if each of us, in our souls were created in one gender stream or the other and so our souls are either male or female. Then how lost and foolish would be the souls who fancied that to spiritually elevate themselves they would purpose to be "above gender differences" and be balanced in their maleness and femaleness? How lost and how mistaken would they be? 

   I think a rather big clue to a lot of this is found in Bob Monroe's account.  One time Bob asked his "guidance" (which turned out to be mostly his own "I/there" or "Disk") if he could meet the most mature/developed human living in his space/time reference.  His guidance told him sure, but it might not be what you expect. 

  Boy wasn't it ever. 

  When Bob first comes across this human sitting at a desk, from Bob's more energetic OBE type state, he could not tell if this person was male or female as it was so balanced in general and in one moment felt male and then another felt female.  He just couldn't get a grasp on it.

   Bob immediately labeled this person "He/She" because of this strong impression. 

   Now, going out on a limb, i would say that while this person humorously labeled "He/She" is very balanced/merged between these, they are also slightly more tilted to the masculine/Yang as a whole, but has achieved a balance and synthesis that for most humans is MANY, MANY lifetimes down the road so to speak. 

   Speaking from my own experience in looking at both this life, and at other lives, i've found that as i've grown in Love, i have tended to merge or integrate between the two more. 

  I could still use more of a greater balance while in the physical, as my physical is pretty innately masculine, perhaps beyond average. 

There is gender of both the body and of consciousness and they don't always reflect one another, but one has to deal with the other one in any case. 

  My body well, is let's just say, fairly masculine by nature.  Always have had a lot of testosterone, and also come from a strong Highlander Scottish background with quite reddish beard and all.  Nor am i a stranger to the at times short, fiery temper that comes with super strong Fire energy in a chart (Fire sign Rising with ruler of same in major aspect to Mars Jupiter conjunction, etc). 

   But, as my Consciousness has gained more and more control over the body, this has started to mellow and to shift.   

   I am no "He/She" by any means as of yet, but from my EXPERIENCES i would say that Bob's account is more than accurate and a bigger clue to the nature of Consciousness and the larger growth process. 

   This doesn't mean we leave behind or lose the strengths of the Masculine/Yang side, some of which Crossbow well outlined, but it does mean we do gain the strengths of the Feminine and lose some of the weaknesses of the Masculine/Yang.   

   Both Crossbow and i hold Yeshua as a teacher--the most expanded Teacher to boot. His life and example well showed the above time and time again.  By all accounts this young, radical upstart was generally a gentle man, kind, considerate, etc, and yet he was not adverse at times to letting lose some Fire and being directive, firm, or no nonsense.  Clearly, he was quite in touch with and balanced between the inner Yin-Yang within. 

   Both Yang and Yin has their side of Love.  For the Yang, i would say it's the "tough Love" side. 


   It's perhaps interesting to note that since the very first time reading Bob's account of "He/She" i strongly intuited that He/She was none other than the above Teacher still in the flesh after all these years, with no "recycling" (reincarnating) meanwhile.

  It's interesting to note that Bob went from having very little but disdain for religious Christianity, to showing quite an interest in this "Jesus" character later on down the road.  Bob was a person who generally had beliefs converted by experiences and knowns.. (unusually so for a human, not to mean he didn't occasionally get things off, because he certainly did).

 

Thank you Matt and Justin for your considered replies. I see you have both made use of areas where we agree, through which to present and exchange ideas upon which we may disagree.
A sign of good communicators.

Good relationships progress along points of agreement, so in our disagreements is does us well to remind each other of our agreements, for doing so prevents alienation.   

Something I expect we agree upon, at least similarly, is the kinship or siblinghood of humanity, in all its races, its limbs and branches, its men and women, are all equally loved by God, and equally accountable under creation's laws of life, and if we are to tune our heart with God's heart then we too must love our fellow men and women and treat them all fairly and accordingly, as how we would be treated if we were them.

Now as for this masculine/feminine thing, I disagree with the western social trend of attributing (directly or by inference) such qualities as sensitivity and caring to females and force and insensitivity to masculinity. There is a misappropriation of qualities to each of the genders. And I see that misappropriation practiced across liberal society and here on this forum board.

I am certain that maleness and femaleness are not limited to the theatre of this planet's stage and the roles we play while here, but are intrinsic throughout creation, from its inception to now and everywhere.  And I am certain that the respective qualities of feminine and masculine are not as commonly named and described by liberal minded westerners. Of course I cannot prove this to anyone.   

Just because a social attitude is currently fashionable and elitist, and just because those who do not subscribe to it are labelled sexists, racists or some other term designed to socially belittle and alienate them and put them on the lowest rung of humanity, does not mean that attitude is right and true. If history is any indicator then nearly every idealist social attitude that comes along and tries to force itself on everyone will simply pass and be seen retrospectively as a fad and as mistaken thinking.

Current western thinking on equality (or on what most currently think of as equality) will pass away, and be looked back upon with ridicule and contempt by a society caught in its next misguided thinking, and so on it goes. Every fashionable period condemning and ridiculing its prior periods, while each time thinking its current period is something true and elite.    
    

By the way,
Regarding the character you mention Justin who Monroe suggested may be the most mature/developed human being living here. Well I wonder if you have noticed the last few verses of John (21:19-24), Jesus' statement to Peter regarding the disciple John remaining here on Earth. He was the quiet disciple, didn't talk much, would sit by the teacher and pay quiet attention, an independent and solitary type. He may have written several books of the new testament. The concepts described in John, 1 john, 2 John and Revelations, cover Christianity from an occult or behind-the-scenes point of view, and those books can certainly seem to be written by the same mind. The books reveal an extraordinary mind with extraordinary comprehension, covering the relationship between God, Christ and creation, the mechanics of the soul and its relationship to God, the nature of the personality and its relationship to soul, an occult (behind the scenes) view of society, social/human patterns and their eventualities, and so much more. He is a most unusual human. Interestingly there is no record of his death.

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I don't think there are weaknesses in the pure male and female energies as they are created and stream forth from God.
Any more than there are weaknesses in the left and right hands. 
Male and female are the right and left hands of God.
They are the nature of universal force, split down the middle, from its inception and outflow to all its manifestations, destined to ever seek to come together and work together, each according to the nature of its respective half of the split of universal force. 

Even though the right hand may be stronger by a common measurement than the left hand, that is just one aspect of difference between them, and only if we over value that aspect and do not recognise other qualities, will we consider the left hand to have a weakness.
But the left hand being weaker in that sense than the right hand is one of the left hand's strengths.
For there is much that the right hand cannot do as well, nor as confidently, nor with as much comfort, peace and security in doing it, as can the left hand.
The right hand needs the left hand, and the left hand needs the right.
Try writing with your right hand upon a card without holding the card with your left hand.
Try sawing a piece of timber with your right hand without bracing the timber with your left hand.
The supportive and active roles are equally important.
Which hand pulls back the bow? The left hand or the right? When the bow is flexed there is the left hand on the bow and the right hand on the string. Try pulling back a powerful bow in the wrong hands, with the right bracing the bow and the left pulling the string.
Try unscrewing a tight jar lid, threading a needle, holding a nail and driving it with a hammer.
Sense the innate skills of each hand, one to stabilise, to secure, one to adjust, to move, and together they both to the job.   
With practice one can sense the left and right hand's respective consciousness, senses and their natural abilities and reflexes.
Each hand naturally performs its role better than the other.
But the role of neither hand is less valuable than the other.
They are both equally vital and important.
They are force, split down the middle, from its source to its manifestation.

It is the misuse of the left and right hand's roles, and the mis-valuing of their respective roles, forces, qualities and abilities that make them seem to have weaknesses.
But in fact the left and right hand only have strengths, and only seem to have weaknesses when we don't understand them, or appreciate them, and when we operate them unnaturally. 

In two handed sports and skills, such as boxing, judo, shooting and so on, each hand naturally performs certain roles of the task better than the other.
And a good coach makes sure the players are using their hands in accordance with natural left and right reflexes.

It is possible that the hands can be trained to be ambidextrous and to mix their roles, to a certain point.
Boxers, judo and mixed martial art players, will sometimes train their hands to perform each other's roles, contrary to natural left and right reflexes, so that they can better confuse their opponent by swopping sides.
But being able to do this only works providing the contestant has the initiative over his opponent, or if he is defending himself comfortably.
The moment the opponent gains the initiative to the extent that one falls into uncontrolled defensive reactions then the left and right hands revert reflexively and automatically to their innate reflexive roles.
This can be observed in footage of most cases of severe assaults, and also observed in combative sportsmen when they are under extreme pressure from their opponents so that their trained responses diminish and their innate responses emerge.

You needn't be a martial art practitioner to test the reflex of innateness to override training at a certain point. Anyone can test this reflex their self if they are game. Take something you are trained very well in and feel comfortable performing under pressure, say, spelling your name, saying your address and phone number, reciting your job history, and something action based and simple such as touching your corresponding finger tips together on each hand. Such are so easy tasks that anyone can perform them easily, and with a few minutes practice can perform almost without thinking, and can do so under quite substantial pressure from distractions, such as someone squirting you in the face with cold water or banging a dustbin lid right next to you.

But try doing it when you are being sprayed with pepper spray and with someone slapping hard your face and groin and rubbing your nose painfully around and around your face. Despite your being forewarned and determination to succeed with the exercise, you will likely be unable to spell your name, say you address, phone number or job history, and instead of your fingertips coming together your hands will probably bang together uncoordinatedly or even refuse to do anything but reflexively cover your face and groin or try to push your friend away. And that is while knowing your life is not at risk because you know its an exercise and a friend testing your limits. 

This is why, regardless of gender equality theory, when males and females together are put under pressure to the extent that they each believe they will die and their uncontrolled defensive reflexes take over, then it is natural that they fall into their innate male and female reflexive roles.
Nature overrides feminism. 

Of course there are men and women who are naturally good at the other's roles, as there are right handed and left handed people who perform tasks as well as each other but with different hands.

And although there exists a difference in the skills of the right and left hands, there is also an overlap of skills that are shared by both left and right hands.

There is also a natural exchange and sharing of knowledge, whereby when one hand learns something, to a certain extent the other hand learns it too, without having to directly practice it.

Imagine if the left hands of the world wanted what they thought was equality with right hands and so they formed a left hand liberation movement. That would be a phenomenon.